Krill says: ping Krill says: I'm back, but my wireless router has not been stable since I got back, so if I drop, I might be a while... Skrobism says: OK. Skrobism says: We have a treaty that needs signing. Skrobism says: hello? Krill says: we do. Skrobism says: Babylon feels the need to sign this or perish. Skrobism says: We'd like to continue living in peace. Krill says: we And we would like to go back to peace. Krill says: But we need one thing more. We need you to disconnect your horses, and a picture of Kurra, next turn, to show that the road is cut Skrobism says: Why? How can we be of any use to you in mutual protection without horses? Skrobism says: hello? Krill says: Can I be blunt? Skrobism says: yes. Krill says: We need to be absolutely certain that you can not turn the settler builds into Horses Krill says: and, after sending out some feelers to BOH, a peace treaty with them would be alot easier if you cut the horses. Skrobism says: Peace with BOH? Do you know what that will cost you? I barely got a cease fire out of them. For peace they wanted 900g + 20g/t + 2 techs + 2 cities. We stuck to the cease fire. Krill says: The two techs is not a problem Krill says: you just have to reseach at a 5o turn pace. Krill says: 50 Skrobism says: That will be difficult. Krill says: And I don't think they want war with every civ in the game Skrobism says: But that is what they have. Krill says: Any BOH force that comes down to attack you has to pass next to either LB or our borders Skrobism says: Right. And at loeast we had horses. Now what? Krill says: We hit them if they try to atack you Krill says: we are building another force of WC in the Core to attack them with if they try anything stupid Krill says: the army that is in your lands will stay there, and wil be re inforced Skrobism says: I don't think we can send screenies of our lands to you to feed them to BOH. BOH still considers us the enemy. Why would we send intel to BOH? Krill says: Why would we send screenies of lans that are shortly going to belong to use? We would be shooting ourselves in the foot. Krill says: And even if BOH tried to attack you, it will take them a minimum of 5 turns just to reach Kurra Skrobism says: I thought it was to aide in your discussions with BOH. Krill says: You can black out all of the detail of the city (amount of gold generated, city improvements etc.) Just leave the view of the terrain. Krill says: and defineately blackout the city garrison Skrobism says: Will do. I guess this falls under our mutual co-operation and friendship. Krill says: preety much. Skrobism says: The WC sound like they can protect both of us against the horde. Skrobism says: Does the building of these go back to the palace jump and their eventual intended target? Krill says: They help. Krill says: Sorry, I don't understand. Skrobism says: We're you not talking with Beta or E_T about a palace jump? Krill says: Yeah, we are going to palace jump to your lands shortly in the future, after finishing the FP. Skrobism says: That should do a lot to move it to safer ground. Krill says: yeah, unless LB decide to invade. Skrobism says: We are on great terms with LB. I think 1889's on complaint of AM is your attack of Babylon. Now, AM and Babylon have peace. I would not worry about LB. Skrobism says: only complaint Skrobism says: hello? Krill says: hmm. I think I should try to chat with 1889 again. Krill says: talk about the all against BOH alliance. Skrobism says: Anything is possible. But right now. The LB forum is only talking about mutual defense not offense. I don't think 1889 wants a world war. But that is for the powerful to decide. Babylon obviously has little say in the world's events. Krill says: All I want in this game is to finish this recolinization and build up for war. Skrobism says: * I have a phone call here at work. hold on, - still want to discuss the city transfer. HOLD ON. Skrobism says: Babylon just wants to continue to live in peace - study science and culture. War is NOT our way. Skrobism says: re Cities: Skrobism says: Babylon wants to know that we can build our settlers before the transfer. Krill says: Whatever happens with the first city transfer, you will always have Potamia and tammuz to build the settlers. Krill says: We will send peace this turn, accepted. You accept it your end, and send an RoP to us, accepted. We accept that. If this happens, we will let you build a settler in every town, and then gift the cities to us. Skrobism says: agreed Krill says: You can keep Tammuz and Potamia until you have finished the recolinization, and built enough workers (say, about 10) Krill says: Then gift those cities to use. Krill says: to us. Krill says: Have I sent you a picture of what land you will have? Skrobism says: I think a screenie was sent a while ago to E_T or Beta. We get to become desert nomads. Hooray! Skrobism says: Send it again to make sure we have the same copy. Krill says: you get two city sites to the south west of Heliopolis and TMR Krill sends: Skrobism says: yes. that too. You have failed to receive file "Babylonian cities, Vassal treaty.JPG" from Krill. Skrobism says: transfer failed. Krill says: If you give me an email addy to send it to, I'll send it now Skrobism says: theidiots@yahoo.com Skrobism says: OK. we have a deal. Krill says: sent Krill says: Yep, It's a deal Skrobism says: You won't be pulling us into a fight with BOH too soon will you? Krill says: No. Ideally, you won't ever have to fight Krill says: block the coast, it is always a possibilty, though Krill says: so we would like you to keep some units around, but not many. Skrobism says: excellent. we'd prefer to stay behind AM while you wage war. Skrobism says: of course we'd send some units. Skrobism says: you will co-ordinate that. Krill says: To be perfectly honest, it would probably just be easier, if we needed to, for you to build catapults for us and we capture them off you, instead of fall co-ordination. Atleast, for this era. If this game somehow reaches the ind era, then you will need to be ready to defend. Skrobism says: of course, but we first need to rebuild. We have a nation to move. Skrobism says: Is that all? I will post this and make sure peace is accepted. I will put in a good word for AM at the LB forum, but remember that is more of a mutual defense arrangment NOT offense. I would not look for 1889 to lead a war against BOH. Skrobism says: hello? Krill says: hi Skrobism says: anything else? Did you get my last post about LB? Krill says: Yeah, I can't think of anything else. Skrobism says: OK. Send peace. We'll accept and start the process of vassalization. Have a good night. Krill says: Thank you. I hope that we have a long a hapy relationship. Have a good evening your self.