This is where we actually start the chat:



* Trip- is now known as [EyE]Trip
<[GS]zeit> can we start? i'll have to go in about half an hour
<[EyE]Trip> I'm going to get some lunch
<[EyE]Trip> have fun now :)
<[GS]zeit> yes father
<[ND]Borc> yes let us make a shot chat to prepare a bigger one soon!
<[ND]Darekill> yes we can start. Borc will talk for ND
<[ND]Borc> zeit: we just have finished the elections of ND
<[GS]zeit> and the outcome?
<[ND]Borc> our governor mav_son is gone for 4 weeks
<[GS]zeit> who's in charge?
<[ND]Borc> and now we have a new government
<[ND]Borc> Darekill, Borc, Zayxus and zerialienguru
<[ND]Borc> we have a republic party now leading our people
<[ND]Borc> :)
<[GS]zeit> are you getting into Rep in game?
<[GS]zeit> as well
<[ND]Borc> yes, we did
<[ND]Darekill> we already are.
<[GS]zeit> that's great!
<[GS]zeit> I guess we've missed it amidst the fighting
<[ND]Borc> zeit: do you have a map of our continent already?
<[GS]zeit> it has been quite hectic in the last few turns, and we've barely made it to pass the sav on time
<[ND]Darekill> we are religious so a flip of the government is just a click.
<[GS]zeit> yes we do
<[GS]zeit> good for you, so are we...
<[GS]zeit> any plans on building a harbor- i couldn't help noticing you have spices you can trade.
<[ND]Borc> at the moment we research engineering, would you like to tell us what you are going for?
<[ND]Borc> our city arnablanca will soon start to buil a harbour
<[ND]Borc> we would really like to trade with you later :-)
<[GS]zeit> we're not researching, we needed cash for rushes
<[GS]zeit> and after the failed attempt at selling Feud, our motivation for research has declined even further
<[ND]Darekill> :( Don't talk about that...
<[GS]zeit> that's a serious issue now- whoring techs makes research less worthwhile
<[GS]zeit> it's not just you, it's GoW and RP, and Lego as well...
<[GS]zeit> getting the best price is important, but it has consequences- stagnating research
<[ND]Borc> i understand, sorry again, but we also needed much money at the moment... anyway we would like to trade techs with you in the future and maybe we both can go for techs together
<[GS]zeit> tech for tech deals are optimal, of course...
<[GS]zeit> what's your ETA on engineering
<[ND]Borc> do you already have other techs which we dont have, for example theology or engineering or...?
<[GS]zeit> No we don't
<[GS]zeit> we'd like to get these, though, as we don't to stay behind the curve. 
<[GS]zeit> how fast are you researching engineering?
<[ND]Borc> we also do not have techs wich the others not have at all :-( maybe we are also backwards at the moment, thats not good
<[ND]Borc> at the moment we go much for money... maybe 15 turns :-/
<[GS]zeit> we're not backward- we're all in the same situation, tech-wise
<[GS]zeit> what's the situation on Bob, is everyone reserving cash for a future war?
<[ND]Borc> do you know another civ which is going for enngineering at the moment?
<[GS]zeit> I don't know of any
<[ND]Borc> it is peace here, but our military advisor tells us not to be lazy with building new troups...
<[GS]zeit> he always does... :)
<[ND]Borc> we are in a sandwich position and that makes us fear to both sides
<[ND]Darekill> Well we don't want to be surprised like vox did surprise someone ;)
<[GS]zeit> OTOH, look where it got them...
<[ND]Darekill> Inchon Inchoff ;)
<[ND]Borc> GS could be a very interesting partner for us if the situation on our continent will eplode
<[ND]Borc> *explode
<[GS]zeit> we're not thinking about that right now, but a NAP with you was an option 
<[GS]zeit> and perhaps is
<[GS]zeit> but that's an issue for further discussion and negotiations, for a "big chat", as you would put it :)
<[ND]Borc> A nap wold be a first step and a good decision!
<[ND]Borc> Do you have a fleet in west of your continent (we don't have a fleet in the east of our continent and no harbour there)
<[GS]zeit> I see that, but don't we just need to have a visible route?
<[GS]zeit> to trade, that is
<[ND]Borc> over the ocean we need astronomy or?
<[GS]zeit> we have the lighthouse... so that's settled
<[GS]zeit> how long before you'll have your harbor ready?
<[ND]Borc> about 20 turns...
<[ND]Borc> arnablanca is a bit underdeveloped
<[ND]Borc> we are not industrious
<[ND]Borc> do you have spice already?
<[GS]zeit> we don't, and that's what we thought of trading for
<[GS]zeit> i guess we could discuss it in due time. 20 turns is a long time in RL. 
<[GS]zeit> I wanted to ask you about that warning you sent us: that RP is planning an attack against us.
<[ND]Borc> yep... so we can 1) prepare a NAP 2) build the harbour to offer you spice
<[ND]Borc> its a long time ago that we had a chat with togas
<[ND]Borc> our relations to rp are a bit frozen
<[ND]Borc> we heard rumours that maybe rp plans to land at your coast
<[ND]Borc> thats why iasked if you have a fleed there
<[ND]Borc> we dont know if there are really reason for you to worry
<[ND]Borc> but we thought it would better to warn you a bit
<[GS]zeit> well, it seems RP is the isolationist, from what you say about frozen relations
<[ND]Borc> rp is getting very strong on our continent
<[ND]Borc> but we also dont know if we can trust GoW :-/
<[GS]zeit> so it seems- they have alot of space. Lego is a big problem as well, so to speak
<[ND]Borc> do you have a map of legoland? (we not only abit of teh coast)
<[GS]zeit> you have to have one friend you can trust, in your situation- unless you want to fight a 2 front war
<[GS]zeit> we don't- we have other uses for our galleys right now, :), and they won't trade their map
<[ND]Borc> whom would you trust more if you were in our situation on our continent?
<[ND]Borc> you have a war with GoW...
<[GS]zeit> except for the horsemen encounter, we've had no fighting with them
<[GS]zeit> that is not a war- i guess they are just enjoying their war un-weariness
<[ND]Borc> :) i understand
<[GS]zeit> we have only Vox to take care of, after that, it'll be high time for reconstruction
<[GS]zeit> we have alot of building to do
<[ND]Borc> we both have an embassy, maybe the next step shoul be a NAP and after we have the harbor we start TRADING
<[GS]zeit> I actually thought you and GoW had good relations- you were collaborating city positions
<[ND]Borc> in 18 turns we alos have engineering and we can trade it to you as cheap as possible
<[GS]zeit> Sounds good, I'll pass the info to my team, and negotiations could take place.
<[GS]zeit> I have to go now, sorry...
<[ND]Borc> ok, you can send me the chat log to borc@cylusion.com ?
<[GS]zeit> sure thing
<[GS]zeit> It was very nice talking to you, hope we can do this more often
<[ND]Darekill> ah and make sure to keep it confidential.
<[ND]Borc> and so we prepare a NAP, thats fine! 
<[ND]Borc> lets repeat it soon, yes!
<[GS]zeit> of course, why do we have a passW for? :)
<[GS]zeit> see you, bye!
<[ND]Borc> have a nice day!
<[ND]Borc> bye
<[ND]Darekill> ciao
<[GS]zeit> night
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