Seriously, though, the idea is interesting, but I've always thought that a good balance of everything is necessary for a successful Civ game. The problem with cultural victories is that they'd materialize out of no where [indeed, America developed for 150 years to become the power it is today, but its culture overnight took hold of many countries (and visa versa)].

if asked why out of the five things to put on the new ideas thread why would this idea belong? what are the greatest strength in adding this idea? and what if any weaknesses or exploits does this idea have?

could you define or give one example for each of the virtual population's

And please dont make so much of the agenda-desires-needs its merely something that popped out when Raingoon wanted a better explaination.

While I believe agendas and desires might be too hard to model, I think Needs are easier..
The needs are something needed for the survival (right?) so I guess they would be: Food, Employment (with religion, peace and freedom hiding in the background, maybe as desires)

What i personally want is:
-a rural population
-an new population growth model, which involves more then food
-immigration to cities to depend on, Food surplus and employment(and what else they can think on), and I also want inter-city migration and city-to-rural migration
-religion and disease models
-the population to 'mould' after you gameplay..if you are warlike the people will become more warlike after time >which would show up in the game as warfare bonus, willingness to go to war
same goes for peace, trade, agriculture and so on...

ah, thats all I can think of right now..

I like the idea of having rural pop. as a separate entity whithin the civ. Sometimes the ratio between rural and urban pop. decides what kind of charactersitc the nation has.

Rural pop, well to tell you the truth I cant really remember all the technical stuff, its been months since i gave it serious thought, but there is alot of info on the radical ideas thread..so cause im feeling lazy Ill just cut&paste a bit...

Radical ideas Thread
Http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum28/HTML/000155.html
My very first thread on civ3 forum was about just this, cities and migration...scroll down to m@niacs quote...it gives a nice summary
BTW I still love my idea of getting rid of the settler unit

http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum6/HTML/000914.html

>People living in rural area should act differently from that of citizens when they are faced with events like war.

Let me see now.. Claiming land..that its

For a square to become a part of your civ u have to claim it. (Move a unit to a square and claim it)
So an enemy moves a unit to 'your square' and claims it. It takes three turns. First turn the sq has 1000 loyal citizens to you, second turn 500 loyal to you..200 have fled to neighboring squares and 300 loyal to the enemy, third turn 700 loyal to the enemy and 100 more have fled.
The very very basic idea...that can be complicated infinitly..say with continious reappearence of partisans..bla bla

/dobbis