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Your Results:

1. Kucinich, Cong. Dennis, OH - Democrat (100%) Click here for info
2. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (99%) Click here for info
3. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol IL - Democrat (92%) Click here for info
4. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (90%) Click here for info
5. Green Party Candidate (89%) Click here for info
6. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (88%) Click here for info
7. Gephardt, Cong. ****, MO - Democrat (83%) Click here for info
8. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (80%) Click here for info
9. Leahy, Patrick Senator, Vermont - Democrat (80%) Click here for info
10. Lieberman Senator Joe CT - Democrat (79%) Click here for info
11. Socialist Candidate (78%) Click here for info
12. Jackson, Cong. Jesse Jr., IL - Democrat (77%) Click here for info
13. Feingold, Senator Russ, WI - Democrat (76%) Click here for info
14. Clark, Retired Army General Wesley K "Wes" Arkansas - Democrat (71%) Click here for info
15. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (68%) Click here for info
16. Kaptur, Cong. Marcy, OH - Democrat (64%) Click here for info
17. Feinstein, Senator Dianne, CA - Democrat (61%) Click here for info
18. Bradley, Former Senator Bill NJ - Democrat (45%) Click here for info
19. Libertarian Candidate (37%) Click here for info
20. McCain, Senator John, AZ- Republican (28%) Click here for info
21. Bush, George W. - US President (19%) Click here for info
22. Hagelin, John - Natural Law (19%) Click here for info
23. Buchanan, Patrick J. – Reform/Republican (18%) Click here for info
24. Vilsack, Governor. Tom IA - Democrat (8%) Click here for info
25. Phillips, Howard - Constitution (5%) Click here for info

Dennis Kucinich seem to be pretty popular at Poly...

	02-11-2003 05:39									#62
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I thought you were libertarian, Ramo.

	02-11-2003 06:04									#63
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Well, Ramo, you are a communist, aren't you?

	02-11-2003 11:20									#64
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quote: Also, why does this pole not even reference the next president, Hilary Clinton?

Because she won't be .

	02-11-2003 11:32									#65
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I'm neither or both. Depends on how broadly you define the terms.

The poll wasn't all that comprehensive and left out a lot of stuff mostly inside the bipartisan consensus (i.e. free immigration), so third parties aren't as highly represented as they should be. Libertarian and Socialist should definitely be higher IMO.

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The top 25 candidates i got were

1.  Libertarian Candidate   (100%)  Click here for info
2.  Buchanan, Patrick J. – Reform/Republican   (72%)  Click here for info
3.  Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat   (68%)  Click here for info
4.  Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat   (67%)  Click here for info
5.  Kucinich, Cong. Dennis, OH - Democrat   (67%)  Click here for info
6.  Green Party Candidate   (66%)  Click here for info
7.  Bush, George W. - US President   (64%)  Click here for info
8.  LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat   (63%)  Click here for info
9.  Feingold, Senator Russ, WI - Democrat   (56%)  Click here for info
10.  Phillips, Howard - Constitution   (55%)  Click here for info
11.  Leahy, Patrick Senator, Vermont - Democrat   (54%)  Click here for info
12.  Socialist Candidate   (50%)  Click here for info
13.  Daschle, Senate Minority Leader Tom, SD - Democrat   (49%)  Click here for info
14.  Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol IL - Democrat   (49%)  Click here for info
15.  Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat   (47%)  Click here for info
16.  Clinton, Senator Hillary Rodham, NY - Democrat   (45%)  Click here for info
17.  Lieberman Senator Joe CT - Democrat   (43%)  Click here for info
18.  Jackson, Cong. Jesse Jr., IL - Democrat   (41%)  Click here for info
19.  Gephardt, Cong. ****, MO - Democrat   (40%)  Click here for info
20.  Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat   (40%)  Click here for info
21.  Bayh, Senator Evan, IN - Democrat   (40%)  Click here for info
22.  Graham, Senator Bob, FL - Democrat   (39%)  Click here for info
23.  Clark, Retired Army General Wesley K "Wes" Arkansas - Democrat   (36%)  Click here for info
24.  McCain, Senator John, AZ- Republican   (31%)  Click here for info
25.  Kaptur, Cong. Marcy, OH - Democrat   (31%)  Click here for info

	02-11-2003 12:57									#67
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VOTE FOR BUSH! VOTE FOR BUSH! EYEEAH!

	02-11-2003 13:16									#68
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www.politicalcompass.org now has all of the democratic candidates plotted on the graph. You should check it out. I was surprised by many of them. You can take the test while you're at it. Econ 2.52, Libertarian - 6.72

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quote: 1. Libertarian Candidate (100%) Click here for info 2. Buchanan, Patrick J. – Reform/Republican (72%) Click here for info

Well that's an interesting 1+2 LoA . Hell, at least I had Dean and Kerry at the top of my list (interesting for me ).

On the compass (which changes little by little every time I take it but puts me in the same general area):

Economic Left/Right: 4.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36

John Kerry is the closest to me on that list (Dem or Rep alike).. though I think the thing is even more flawed than the Selectsmart poll .

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Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.31

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1. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (93%)
2. Kucinich, Cong. Dennis, OH - Democrat (89%)
3. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol IL - Democrat (81%)
4. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (79%)
5. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (76%)
6. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (72%)
7. Lieberman Senator Joe CT - Democrat (70%)
8. Gephardt, Cong., MO - Democrat (69%)
9. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (68%)
10. Clark, Retired Army General Wesley K "Wes" Arkansas - Democrat (56%)
11. Libertarian Candidate (40%)
12. Bush, George W. - US President (13%)
13. Phillips, Howard - Constitution (3%)

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GRRRRG POLITICAL COMPASS AARRRGGG

	02-11-2003 20:22									#73
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I got:
Economic Left/Right: -0.88
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.05
on the political compass, halfway between the Greens and Liberal Democrats in the UK (even though Charles Kennedy, Lib Dem leader, gets almost exactly the same as I do) and a soft-core Libertarian centrist Though no US candidate, and no-one on the international chart has the same kind of position as me.

quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand And I don't know why you say that, Drogue. All I've said at these forums is to dust Hussein, Bin Laden, and other terrorists.

I guess that meant I associated you as a strong Bush supporter, which was partly wrong. It seems we agree on a lot more than I thought.

	02-11-2003 20:24									#74
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All but 2 of the presidential canidates (Kucinich and Sharpton) are Athoritarian Right, WTF?

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Athoritarian/Libertarian: -8.33
Socialist/Capitalist: -9.00

VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!

	02-11-2003 20:41									#76
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Odin: Mildly yes. Almost all electable figures will be. The majority of people seem to want to keep drugs illegal, punishments harsh, taxes low, and those who choose not to work off welfare, and in the US, healthcare private. In Europe, some more leftist and liberal candidates are electable. I think they have Schroeder a little to far right, but I think most Euro leaders would be near Kuninich on that scale, or possibly a little further right and authoritarian.

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Economic Left/Right: 3.00
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.69

Moderate Libertarian. Looks good to me.

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Those Iconochasms are interesting. I especially like the one by Bush Sr.

To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and make a broken tyrant into a latter-day hero ... assigning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them to fight in what would be an un-winnable urban guerilla war. It could only plunge that part of the world into even greater instability.George Bush Snr, in A World Transformed, 1998

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quote: 1. Bush, George W. - US President (100%) Click here for info 2. Bayh, Senator Evan, IN - Democrat (67%) Click here for info 3. Lieberman Senator Joe CT - Democrat (66%) Click here for info 4. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (64%) Click here for info 5. Clinton, Senator Hillary Rodham, NY - Democrat (59%) Click here for info 6. Gephardt, Cong. ****, MO - Democrat (57%) Click here for info 7. Libertarian Candidate (54%) Click here for info 8. Buchanan, Patrick J. – Reform/Republican (54%) Click here for info 9. Kucinich, Cong. Dennis, OH - Democrat (54%) Click here for info 10. Biden, Senator Joe, DE - Democrat (53%) Click here for info

	02-11-2003 22:08									#80
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for those asking about LaRouche:

quote: Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. (Democrat) Virginia LaRouche is a self-described controversial international political figure. Perennial candidate and purported political cult leader LaRouche is back for an eighth presidential bid. He was candidate for U.S. presidential nomination of Democratic Party: 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000. U.S. presidential candidate, U.S. Labor Party, 1976. LaRouche has been excluded from Democratic candidate debates despite LaRouche's reported fund-raising success. "The formal Democratic parties have disavowed" LaRouche and his surrogate candidates...He has his own party," said Democratic consultant Mark Mellman. "And they have on occasion tried to use the Democratic Party, to take over the Democratic Party, to further their own interests. "We're a pretty big tent, but the tent doesn't include lunatics and criminals," said Mellman. A high school graduate, and a repeated college attendee, LaRouche calls himself a "world's leading economist". His conspiracy theories have implicated Queen Elizabeth, "British bankers," the Pope, narcotics producers, Jesuits, Yale University's Skull & Crossbones Society, environmentalists, and many others. Originally a Trotskyite political organizer in the Socialist Workers Party in the 1960s, he formed the now-defunct and neo-fascist US Labor Party, then registered as a Democratic in 1979. LaRouche was convicted and imprisoned on felony fraud charges in the late 1980s related to the fundraising activities of his political organization. LaRouche was born September 8, 1922, Rochester, New Hampshire. He is married:to Helga Zepp LaRouche, a native and citizen of Germany and Director of the Schiller Institute; political figure of Germany. He was schooled in Rochester, New Hampshire and Lynn, Massachusetts Public Schools; attended Northeastern University during 1940, 1941, 1942, 1946, 1947. Management Consultant, Economist 1947-1948, 1952-1972. Founder: (1974) Executive Intelligence Review weekly; Co-Founder: (1975) Fusion Energy Foundation; Member: Schiller Institute. LaRouche is the author of " So, You Wish To Learn All About Economics?" and "The Science of Christian Economy".

	02-11-2003 22:57									#81
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LaRouche sounds like a f*cking Stalinist.

	02-11-2003 22:59									#82
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He sounds like a f*cking moron

I think it was him who thinks we should nuke england :lo:

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quote: A high school graduate, and a repeated college attendee, LaRouche calls himself a "world's leading economist".

tell me that didn't make yall almost laugh

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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer tell me that didn't make yall almost laugh

The whole article made me laugh. He sounds like somebody Fezzie would like.

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Except that he's a leftie

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1. Kucinich, Cong. Dennis, OH - Democrat (100%)
2. Libertarian Candidate (90%)
3. Bush, George W. - US President (84%)
4. Lieberman Senator Joe CT - Democrat (80%)
5. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (77%)
6. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (74%)
7. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (73%)
8. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (67%)
9. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (64%)
10. Gephardt, Cong. ****, MO - Democrat (57%)
11. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol IL - Democrat (56%)
12. Phillips, Howard - Constitution (46%)
13. Clark, Retired Army General Wesley K "Wes" Arkansas - Democrat (43%)



Yeah, they are still going with Kucinich having 'pro-life' values that don't matter when you come into power.

Still think that this poll weighs way too much in favour of the Libertarian candidates. Since when do you have prolife Libertarians who favour school vouchers?

	03-11-2003 03:53									#87
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There we go. Adjusted the sliders for importance.

1. Bush, George W. - US President (100%)
2. Kucinich, Cong. Dennis, OH - Democrat (89%)
3. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (84%)
4. Libertarian Candidate (81%)
5. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (65%)
6. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (63%)
7. Phillips, Howard - Constitution (60%)
8. Lieberman Senator Joe CT - Democrat (56%)
9. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (56%)
10. Gephardt, Cong. ****, MO - Democrat (50%)
11. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol IL - Democrat (43%)
12. Clark, Retired Army General Wesley K "Wes" Arkansas - Democrat (33%)
13. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (32%)

	03-11-2003 04:02									#88
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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.25
Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.21

Jean Chretien is almost dead-on?
A little more Liberaterian, while I'm right on line.

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Economic Left/Right: 2.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.44




I used to be -0.85 on Econ.

	03-11-2003 04:27									#90
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1. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (100%) (sucks)
2. Green Party Candidate (97%) (0wnZ)
3. Kucinich, Cong. Dennis, OH - Democrat (95%) (crazy)
4. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol IL - Democrat (91%) (0wnZ)
5. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (86%) (nazi)
6. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (84%) (nazi)
7. Gephardt, Cong. ****, MO - Democrat (82%) (crappy)
8. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (82%) (pretty good)
9. Socialist Candidate (81%) Click here for info
10. Leahy, Patrick Senator, Vermont - Democrat (81%) (nazi)
...
19. Libertarian Candidate (40%) (nazi)
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22. Buchanan, Patrick J. – Reform/Republican (12%)
23. Bush, George W. - US President (9%) (nazi idiot)


Wow, it seems as though I like Buchanan (12%) and Libertarians (40%) far more than I like Bush (9%).

Last edited by St Leo on 03-11-2003 at 04:47