08-11-2003 01:22									#331
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There's not much need for change. If they belong to AQ, they are a problem for penal law.

	08-11-2003 01:23									#332
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A headline blared today that our casualties this week were 31 dead.

Ouch.

	08-11-2003 01:26									#333
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Well honestly, what did you expect?

	08-11-2003 01:27									#334
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quote: Originally posted by HershOstropoler There's not much need for change. If they belong to AQ, they are a problem for penal law.

The problem with this that under US law, accused criminals have a right to a lawyer a right to the silence. This is woefully incompatible with our need to interrogate these people.

But what you are suggesting seems to be that we need to change our Constitution rather than to amend international treaties.

	08-11-2003 01:42									#335
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Well what happens if they remain silent?

Criminal law: no sanction, though incentives for talking possible

Gitmo system: they stay in Gitmo. If they talk, they stay in Gitmo too. Unless you advocate other measures.

	08-11-2003 01:43									#336
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Torture is expedient for obtaining low level general information from prisoners, it is not efficient for obtaining ongoing, high level, high accuracy information, or any information of a complex nature.

Which is why the CIA says that they don't use torture as an interrogation technique . . . which isn't the same as saying they don't use torture.

	08-11-2003 01:47									#337
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They're resource limited. If there's no intel to get out of somebody, you just solve the problem or give it away to somone else.

Much more important to get intel out of people who have it.

	08-11-2003 01:48									#338
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quote: Originally posted by HershOstropoler Well what happens if they remain silent? Criminal law: no sanction, though incentives for talking possible Gitmo system: they stay in Gitmo. If they talk, they stay in Gitmo too. Unless you advocate other measures.

If they talk, and their infor pans out, they get various privileges leading eventually up to their release.

	08-11-2003 02:13									#339
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Oh, so it's the same as in criminal law, then...