08-11-2003 20:37									#31
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sorry, i didnt even know that there were fertility parameters in the terrain, i was assuming that you were talking about the terrain values

where can i dl mapcopy from?

	08-11-2003 21:26									#32
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You're not paying attention, are you? Catfish posted a link earlier:

here...
http://home.san.rr.com/dustyr/proj.htm
or here...
http://www.civgaming.net/mercator/mapedit/

To zero-out the fertility values on the map, type in the following at the DOS prompt (assuming mapcopy is in the same directory as the savegame/scenario):

code:
mapcopy whatever_the_name_of_your_savegame/scenario_is -f:ZERO

	08-11-2003 23:25									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Mercator Making the entire map "infertile" prevents the AI from building cities, nothing more and nothing less. It won't affect existing cities.

I might have been more helpful if I’d pointed that out in the first instance.

quote: Originally posted by varwnos sorry, i didnt even know that there were fertility parameters in the terrain, i was assuming that you were talking about the terrain values

Read the posts earlier in the thread if you want info on the fertility value. Mercator also gave links to some additional sources.

Oh, and pay more attention.

	09-11-2003 01:48									#34
	ok ok! :) Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Thank you but i cant really pay a lot more attention, since i am in love

	09-11-2003 02:03									#35
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Which file do you edit? i am not a programmer (that is an understatement) i like windows and believe that aliens prefer Pentium computers (as in the tv ad) so i will need some help with editing the parameters

	09-11-2003 18:20									#36
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I posted the exact line you have to type in one post earlier.

- Unzip MapCopy into your scenario directory
- Open the DOS Prompt
- Go to the scenario directory (e.g. cd c:\mps\civ2\scenario\my_scenario)
- Type in:
mapcopy whatever_the_name_of_your_savegame/scenario_is -f:ZERO
With that savegame/scenario, I mean your working file, the file you work with to build your scenario.

	09-11-2003 19:44									#37
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quote: Originally posted by varwnos Thank you but i cant really pay a lot more attention, since i am in love

LOL!

In love with CIV2, I hope!

	09-11-2003 22:28									#38
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well with civ2 as well, but civ2 has too many lovers already

what i was asking was how to open the dos prompt, that was why i said that i only know how to use windows (spare your comments, i am a philosophy graduate, usefull in ancient Greece, but not today)

but anyway i have other ways of going around the problem, since my scenario is in the middle of a war period anyway it makes sense to have the settler unit available only through research, so that pretty much solves the problem i think

	09-11-2003 22:44									#39
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Well, here's how to open the DOS prompt anyway...

It could be an item in the start menu among the other programs: "MS-DOS Prompt". Or type in "command" (win95/98/ME) or "cmd" (winNT/2K/XP) in the Run... item in the Start menu.

	10-11-2003 01:05									#40
	ok :) Got spare money?

i did it. thanks for the tip

take a look at my thread if you want to have a look at the scenario

	10-11-2003 03:06									#41
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quote: Originally posted by curtsibling In love with CIV2, I hope!

Varwnos, you must understand Curt's condition – he is a Civ2-crazed man. Keeps his Civ2 CD-ROM on his pillow at night. Shouts about dogfighting over Normandy in his sleep (in German, of course). Is seeking treatment.

	10-11-2003 03:16									#42
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Civ2 is great, but as with everything the trick is to do it for the right reasons, and with moderation at least thats what i think having said that i am still working on it myself

	10-11-2003 14:07									#43
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unless I'm mistaken, nobody mentioned the expansion, perfectionist, civilised, aggressive etc. flags in the rules.txt.

You must however pre-create the rules.txt and copy it to your main civ folder and then begin on a saved map and save as a scenario. Otherwise the civilization attribute settings will have no effect, i mean they will just use the defaut values for the civs your are replacing.

	10-11-2003 14:35									#44
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quote: Originally posted by kobayashi unless I'm mistaken, nobody mentioned the expansion, perfectionist, civilised, aggressive etc. flags in the rules.txt.

quote: Originally posted by Sore Loser The "Expansionist" trait helps, of course, but it is rarely enough.

First post.

	12-11-2003 12:08									#45
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Has anybody looked into terrain usage? The AI seems to place a different emphasis on the food yield of a square when it's in deficit or making even. But it sometimes makes really weird decisions. I think its decisions are based in part on the terrain slots rather than the actual terrain values. I've changed the terrain values around, and the AI doesn't seem to know how to cope with that.

	12-11-2003 15:33									#46
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quote: Originally posted by varwnos what i was asking was how to open the dos prompt, that was why i said that i only know how to use windows (spare your comments, i am a philosophy graduate, usefull in ancient Greece, but not today)

You darn young punks better show some respect. Back in my day we didn't have no fancy windows. All we had was white text on a black background. When were weren't accidently deleting every file on the C drive we considered outselves to be lucky

[for the record, I'm an economics/political science graduate (or will be in a few weeks). Us dismal science/humanities people don't need to totally suck at computers]