05-11-2003 12:28									#31
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I don't disagree with NYE either, but I would suspect that the problems mentioned by GhengisFarb could not have helped.

	05-11-2003 13:57									#32
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quote: Originally posted by zorbop does it matter? arn't we all members of both forums anyway?

I am not member of civfan.

Keeping up with reading one board, is more than enough.

	05-11-2003 20:37									#33
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TechWins:

Thanks for putting me in the group that tried to make a point. Personally, I had high expectations of Civ3 (some of them unfair some of them Firaxis simply failed on), so when the initial release was such a mess, I vowed to be quiet until the Gold Edition came out, at which time I thought I'd give the game a try. Of course, I see the GE doesn't have the X-pack, so I'll wait for the bundle at $19.99.

Long story short: The hardcore folks were here at Poly and, for the most part, were very disappointed with Civ3 whereas the other site had many more people with the "I'll play any Civ I can get" mentality. So, fair enough that Firaxis would rather be more active there.

	05-11-2003 21:12									#34
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quote: As always, I take my hat off and bow to nye as... one of the wise.

I second that.

quote: Keeping up with reading one board, is more than enough.

Aaaaarh aaaarrrhh, that it is.......

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Good to see you Yin,
I think it's fair to say that with the release of C3C the game has really come of age. I hope you pick up a copy soon.
Is it a perfect game, surely not, is it fun, I think it is


Now if we only could get Vel back

	05-11-2003 21:49									#35
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quote: Originally posted by zorbop does it matter? arn't we all members of both forums anyway?

I registered at both sites at the same time, and I have posted there twice. Although I primarily play PtW (primarily = hours and hours a week), I am also a big fan of CtP2 and like to keep my eye on that forum because some very interesting things happen there with mod development. That makes CF a little too narrow for my focus.

	05-11-2003 22:13									#36
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hi ,

, it would be intresting to see a poll with the top 16 civ sites , .........

have a nice day

	05-11-2003 22:20									#37
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The reason I think it was more due to downtime issues and not as much poster attitude is that Firaxis approached a lot of Apoly posters for the Beta phase and scenarios. A good chunk of the work and feedback in Conquests came from Apolytonians, why would they have gone out of their way to get their help if they had washed their hands of them?

	05-11-2003 22:55									#38
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I suppose if you want insane folks who will work on suggestion lists, beta feedback, etc., you come here. Then you hop on to a less critical site for some feel good sessions.

Either way, as has been pointed out, we all know where to get the downloads...

	06-11-2003 00:13									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Soren Johnson Firaxis Oh, we're still around... the two sites are different beasts though. Civfanatics sort of co-evolved with Civ3 (a lot of newer posters) whereas Apolyton has a pretty long history and wider scope. In other words, there is always someone here to remind us of our past mistakes...

Hey, a Firaxian!!

Hehe, but that is actually a good explanation, Soren.

And as Yin said, going to CFC in order to have some feel good sessions is nice, especially at the end of a busy day struggling with the code.

BTW, nice to see you, Yin!

	06-11-2003 00:19									#40
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Well... there's all that, and then there is the sheer level of activity and visibility of Civvers here versus there.

Something that STILL needs to be addressed around here, and that worthies such as Rhothaerill and Nuclear Master have continued to address.

	06-11-2003 14:37									#41
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quote: Originally posted by TechWins I know for sure that before the release of Civ3 that there were a lot more Firaxians posting here at Poly than over at CFC. Then after the release a lot Poly people had some mean stuff to say to Firaxians. Firaxians got upset and decided not to post as much here instead over at CFC. That's basically what happened.

Do you mean that criticism was and is non-existing at CFC?

	06-11-2003 16:54									#42
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Yay! yin is back. You're the main reason I started hanging around the forums in the first place at Poly.

And as long as we don't act like jackasses we won't scare off the Breakaway crowd this time around...

	07-11-2003 02:38									#43
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Alva, Alex, MrWhereItsAt:

Wow, you guys make me still feel home at Poly. Thanks.

quote: You're the main reason I started hanging around the forums in the first place at Poly.

I was going to ask 'Why?' but then I realized I might not like the answer! LOL! As for my jackass days (oh, I admit them), I'm just feeling so old and tired these days. I'm only 32, mind you, but I've got two kids now ... and damn if that doesn't kill the gaming time!

	07-11-2003 04:05									#44
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BUT, once you're married the only time you get for all-night sessions is 'nursing' a sick baby

	07-11-2003 04:10									#45
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Yeah, yin, I'll join the choir: It's good to see you again. I was sad when you left, since I felt that your presence was something that gave Poly the feeling I met when I started visiting these forums. Hope you will still stay here.

	07-11-2003 22:33									#46
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Myrddin: LOL A year has gone by and I've hardly played any games. SOMETHING IS WRONG!

Nikolai: Hey, thanks. That's quite nice. Do you think Civ3 is worth getting back in to? I feel like now I'm way too out of the conversation...

	07-11-2003 22:44									#47
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poor yin. missing all the fun...

	07-11-2003 22:48									#48
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Yin26 - it's still not SMAC, and never will be.

But it's a whole different game (and a much better one IMO) from its initial release, especially with C3C added. Some of the improvement is just learning how things work (like culture, like the combat system) and building your strategies to take the design into account. Part of the improvement is the iterative work of Soren et. al. in improving the AI and adding new features.

I'm enjoying it, unlike the initial release which occupied about two weeks of my playing time before I moved along and waited for patches.

	07-11-2003 23:16									#49
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quote: Originally posted by yin26 Nikolai: Hey, thanks. That's quite nice. Do you think Civ3 is worth getting back in to? I feel like now I'm way too out of the conversation...

I havent bought it yet (my willpower is holding this time), but from initial comments, it looks like there have been substantial changes with C3C. My guess is that if this game had come out as 'Civ3' more of the older players might still be playing 'civ'.

	08-11-2003 01:37									#50
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Markos:

You still running the ship? You have the patience of Biblical legend.

Stuie and SpencerH: Well, I like to hear about improvements since I'm growing tired of Galactic Civilizations (great game but just so-so atmosphere). So, I guess I have been playing computer games a little, but I miss being completely hooked. If I can get the bundle some months from now, I think I will.

	08-11-2003 01:46									#51
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quote: Originally posted by yin26 You have the patience of Biblical legend.

i always seem to find something new to find on the site and i'm still battling between life and playing civ, so...

	08-11-2003 02:15									#52
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quote: Originally posted by yin26 TechWins: Thanks for putting me in the group that tried to make a point. Personally, I had high expectations of Civ3 (some of them unfair some of them Firaxis simply failed on), so when the initial release was such a mess, I vowed to be quiet until the Gold Edition came out, at which time I thought I'd give the game a try. Of course, I see the GE doesn't have the X-pack, so I'll wait for the bundle at $19.99. Long story short: The hardcore folks were here at Poly and, for the most part, were very disappointed with Civ3 whereas the other site had many more people with the "I'll play any Civ I can get" mentality. So, fair enough that Firaxis would rather be more active there.

Hmm...

Didn't you yin, after trying Civ3 once said that once the most expansion packs get out, you'll buy some sort of Gold edition for small price after all.

If we ignore that Gold ed. is already out (vanilla + PtW), I bet that next yeat we'll see some sort of Deluxe editior with all things in one.

	08-11-2003 02:42									#53
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quote: Originally posted by yin26 Myrddin: LOL A year has gone by and I've hardly played any games. SOMETHING IS WRONG! Nikolai: Hey, thanks. That's quite nice. Do you think Civ3 is worth getting back in to? I feel like now I'm way too out of the conversation...

hi ,

get to the nearest store and buy CIV CONQUESTS asap , you gona love it

have a nice day

	08-11-2003 02:43									#54
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I visit both Apolyton and CivFanatics, but I only post here. In CFC I have a couple of post in just one thread, if I remeber correctly. But, still I visit more CFC 'cause they have over there a bigger modding community(or work) than we have on 'Poly (well, that or pepole from here doesn't want to fill up 'Poly servers and they post over there )

	08-11-2003 03:38									#55
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Markos: Well, by running the best site of its kind, you've somewhat managed to blur the line between playing Civ and life anyway! For that, you deserve a new server and a few hot babes to play against you in a late-night LAN game.

Player1: Yes, I said that very thing. Geez, I didn't realize the microphone was on at the time! LOL I think you are right that the Deluxe edition will be out early part of next year. That's when I'll show up again with something to say, but everybody will already have said it ... only better.

Panag: In my earlier pre-kids days, you would have push me over the edge and right to the computer store...

	08-11-2003 03:42									#56
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sure thing, but i wouldnt know what to do with the LAN

	08-11-2003 03:45									#57
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quote: Originally posted by yin26 you've somewhat managed to blur the line between playing Civ and life anyway!

actually, someone should do a tbs where you're the webmaster of a fan site....

	08-11-2003 03:54									#58
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG actually, someone should do a tbs where you're the webmaster of a fan site....

...in the same time as being in the army

But I think that a tycoon style rts game would be better...
(the world don't stop just because someting tskes longer to set up)

I see it now... Fansite Tycoon.

	08-11-2003 04:22									#59
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yin: I didn't buy PTW, so I can't say how it is with that, but Civ3 is for me good, if not near what Civ1/2 was when they came. I will buy Conquests after a while though, as it seems good.(Must wait untill Christmas is over, as I have other games to try too, and Santa always seems to listen to my parents)

I would highly recommed you Europa Universalis 2 though. I have played that game since it came in 2001, and EU1 for a year before that. That game is AWESOME! And now a new game from the same producers(Paradox) is underway, which seems to be at least as good. Check Paradox' forums if you want.

	08-11-2003 05:32									#60
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Yin, we never interacted all that much, but I certainly know who you are.

C3C seems to be the answer to every Civver's prayers... if you're of a mind to do some gaming, this is it. A large number of the beta-testers came from here and CFC (and some others, like Sulla), and they're all giving it a big thumbs-up.

And, back OT, the level of activity here in the Civ3 forums has sky-rocketed... good stuff.