11-11-2003 12:37									#31
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Then it wasn't an own goal, sweetheart...

Canadian flag doesn't have 13 anythings...

	11-11-2003 12:38									#32
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Disallowed -- we were discussing the flag.

Look closer at the Maple leaf

	11-11-2003 12:38									#33
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It was, however, stupid on my part....

	11-11-2003 12:41									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo the US gov't is idiotic.

Well that went without saying.

	11-11-2003 12:51									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar Nazi communist!!!!

No, somewhere inbetween.

	11-11-2003 13:30									#36
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From "A Man for All Seasons" - I'm transcribing this starting at 49 mintues 13 seconds

Sir Thomas Moore is the Chancellor of England at this point, the second most powerful man in England, and could easily order anyone's arrest except the King. The young man who will eventually betray him, and perjure himself at Moore's trial, condemning him to death, is leaving. Even at this point in the film, he's a little weasel.

Wife: Arrest him.
Moore: For What.
Wife: He's dangerous.
Roper (future son-in-law): (garbled)Lord, he's a spy.
Daughter: Father, that man is bad.
Moore: There is no law against that.
Roper: There is, God's law
Moore: Then God can arrest him.
Wife: While you talk, he's gone.
Moore: And go he should, were he the devil himself, until he broke the law.
Roper: So, now you give the devil the benefit of law.
Moore: Yes, what would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get to the devil.
Roper: Yes. I'd cut down every law in England to do that.
Moore: Oh, and when the last law was down and devil turned round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat. This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, man's laws not god's and if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the wind that would blow then? Yes I'd give the devil benefit of the law for my own safety's sake.

I wonder if anyone in the Bush adminstration has even seen the play, let alone the movie. I guess that's what you get when your President says:

quote: And to the C students, I say: You, too, can be president of the United States.

Maybe I should foward it to John Ashcroft. I can just hear the response. "But that's different..."

edit - correct punctuation in transcript

	11-11-2003 21:40									#37
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He was already wanted in syria for draft doging, I suspect that is what they officially imprisoned him for.

	11-11-2003 22:24									#38
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We'll have to wait to find out the whole truth on this incident. Anyway, I expect we will not have what is left of our civil liberties much longer when this war returns to the States. People seem to prefer security to liberty so it is only a matter of time before we are safe in our little cages that we have made for ourselves.

	12-11-2003 09:04									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola He was already wanted in syria for draft doging, I suspect that is what they officially imprisoned him for.

Duh. But the last time I checked the US didn't make a habit of enforcing Syrian draft laws...

	12-11-2003 09:49									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Lincoln We'll have to wait to find out the whole truth on this incident. Anyway, I expect we will not have what is left of our civil liberties much longer when this war returns to the States. People seem to prefer security to liberty so it is only a matter of time before we are safe in our little cages that we have made for ourselves.

Hmm....I wonder if someone logged into Lincolns account and posted this?

	12-11-2003 09:54									#41
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Why? He's always had that opinion...

	12-11-2003 09:57									#42
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I thought he was the one always ranting about how the disapperance of US Civil Liberties is a myth and that everyone was just fine?

	12-11-2003 10:04									#43
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That was Drake.

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quote: Originally posted by Space05us maybe some day we will teach them to count to 50.

They ran out of fingers.

	12-11-2003 12:52									#45
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Did the Syrians cut them off?

	12-11-2003 13:08									#46
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Could the Yanks please deport their current regime to Uzbekistan for further treatment? Thank you very much.

	12-11-2003 16:06									#47
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We'd love to (the US getting in bed with that regime should be criminal). But then we would be unable to board aircraft (certain peace activitists have found themselves red-flagged as possible terrorists in our new, anti-terror semi-secret, or at least inaccessable to citizens, data-base), investigated by law enforcement as disloyal, have all our emails tapped, our library records searched, and possible have secret warrents executed against our house via a secret court that can sign off on them (these are all LEGAL under the US Patriot Act). We are a Republic, not a Democracy. It means once a President gets elected, especially if his party controls one chamber of Congress, then he has four years of more or less carte blanche. It's scary.