18-05-2000 23:19									#31
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Supercool

I feel much better now

	18-05-2000 23:35									#32
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Yeah Bird, but I was stupid too. I got so pissed when none of the SEVEN units could move into the empty city, I hit end turn before I could move a defensive unit onto the stack... DUH!

When your turn came and went, and the stack was still there I almost died laughing

	18-05-2000 23:42									#33
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What kind of defense unit could protect your stack against catapult?
Cool situation indeed.

	19-05-2000 00:03									#34
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Maybe nothing would have helped.
But, I would have rather taken my chances with a vet pikeman vs a non vet cat then depending on a vet crusader to defend.

And if I had been in birds position, I would have attacked the stack with the pikeman he built anyway. What did he have to lose. The city was going to fall if he did nothing. Might as well take a chance as see if you can get lucky. I've done that kind of thing before in desperation, and won

But true stupidity on both sides

	19-05-2000 00:32									#35
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Ming, you shouldn't have got into that. Think about using two settlers or an explorer.

	19-05-2000 00:50									#36
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How about this one ..... i am the host, forget to put autosave on, game crashes around 975BC six screaming warriors not only want my civ, they want my scalp as well...

slight variation would be the forget autosave, player(s) drop and the ai screws them meanwhile i have no save other than the first turn and sometimes not only that..... needless to say i have not forgotten about autosave since then

	19-05-2000 18:43									#37
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in the last session of the game i'm playing, i revolted from monarchy to change to republic, blissfully unaware that i didn't actually have monarchy. until a couple of turns later when my choices came up as despotism or monarchy.

	25-05-2000 09:48									#38
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Well here goes - I was building UN waiting for electronics, I had the pre-reqs and the game screwed me - got stuck with something else. Then I was overly generous to Ming giving and trading techs (not again) - he got electronics before me and built Hoover. I GOT STUCK BUILDING UN

	25-05-2000 10:03									#39
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This pearl also deserve place here:

I fell asleep during a game with Rah and War4Ever.
I only can imagine confusion i created

	25-05-2000 17:15									#40
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The most stupid thing that I have ever done is waiting almost 40 minutes to figure out that one of the players fell asleep. ooppppsss, j/k.
We actually figured it out quite quick, but we were hoping that he might wake up. That was the stupid part.

Yes, it did create some confusion, but we had fun anyway. Thank goodness for the chat feature. It was kinda fun making up things that could have happened to him. The best ones involved the police. hahahahha


RAH
Thanks to the great comradere that this site helps build, we weren't even annoyed. We laughed and played on.

	25-05-2000 20:18									#41
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A lot of stuff covered already...

Here's one thing I did when playing one-on-one with Carnide.

i) He was in demo (which I knew) and landed a couple of units next to one of my smaller cities.

ii) It wasn't exactly an invasion force, but this was a large map, king level, restless tribes game so I was weak on defence. The city was doomed.

iii) "No problem. I'll just rush a diplo and buy it right back!"

iv) City falls, diplo moves up next to it.

v) See point i)...

The expression on my face when "The armed forces bla bla bla popped up...

Carolus

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	25-05-2000 20:50									#42
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In one of my first MP games, I built my capital near an iron mountain. I was micromanaging shields as the city grew to size 2, and could finish my horsemen by putting my workers on the iron square and a forest square. Unfortunately, that caused a food deficit; next turn my capital was back to size 1 with no food in the box. Ouch.

	26-05-2000 09:15									#43
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Well Berzerker...
I was the one that gave you Communism, and even suggested that you build it since I was going to be a long away from building it, and I didn't want Xin to get that too.

You never did tell me your real goal was the Hoover Dam... You just said you couldn't take electronics, so I suggested we leap frog techs...

What did you think I was going to do


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	25-05-2000 22:03									#44
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Don't worry Berz, Cure for Cancer is only one tech away.

	25-05-2000 23:22									#45
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i have another that happened to me a short while ago...... i was building a wonder, only to be beaten to it.... so i let the shields accumulate like everyone does. Well i clicked on colossus as it was available to see how many shields i had, i had more than enough..... next turn someone built colossus and i clicked on the city and by accident clicked barracks anyways i built about a 300shield barracks which blew my chances in the game big time.... i was not impressed

	25-05-2000 23:32									#46
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What makes that even funnier W4E is that when you do just as you did, you get a chance to correct your mistake. It will ask you if you really want to change and take the 50% shield penality for switching classes. Many times I have done just as you have, and saved my butt by pressing, no thank you, I will continue building the wonder

	26-05-2000 00:27									#47
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No kidding. For a while I experimented with turning off the option that warns you (after all, when I switch like that I usually no what I'm doing), but the risk of making a huge mistake just isn't worth it!

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	28-05-2000 18:02									#48
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Granted, I'm in self(reality)-imposed exile from this addiction, but does mean i don't sneak a peek in the "liquor store" window / forum occasionally with painful longing.
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On this topic, I am not just a "Prince", I'm a King-of-Fools.

Sad to say, CapTVK is correct... I probably have the distinction of having made the most costly screw-up in the most important game to date... the Great Diplo II; 7-player, worldwide game of 1999.

My little Viking civ based out of Australia had the chance-of-the-game to jump into being a contender. Don't remember what the actual age was but it was soon after most of us had gotten industry & the race was on to ramp up production in anticipation of modern border "clashes" & more importantly, the next century's space race. Pollution was getting to be a problem & in that game, we had agreed there would be drastic actions taken if necessary to curb polluting civ's.

If havn't figured out by now, the Wonder to do it all = the Great Hoover Dam!
I had spent a decade tech trading(begging?), caraven building, chatting openly, privately, & on the forum about how bad-off us Vikings were how we didn't have nothin'.
All the while monitoring via Marco Polo's, what wonders the others were building & not showing any wonder-building of my own. U'll know the drill; build as many caravens as possible, until just a few turns prior to final build.
Of course, i wasn't ABOUT to let those w/ embassies see that i was going for THE BIG DAM so i had it set to the UN (ya know, that really useful MP wonder).

The BIG TURN finally arrived! I spent my hoarded trading gold to finish filling the build box after my waves of camels poured in their shields.
BUT! As intense & close as this huge game was ol' Klever Ken(Milo to them) wasn't about to show his hand by switching wonders to The Dam until just before the Viking's next turn. Plus with the #1 Aztecs ruled by Master Civer Nappy(inherited as the Great Croat civ from S'Fart) on the verge of completing it in a turn or 2, according to my embassy staff, we didn't want him to rush his to completion during HIS turn.
Besides in a game with 6-7 humans, i'd have plenty of time for that, right? Even had the production screen for my Wonder city open & the "Change Production" window hi-lited. I mean, were the lowly Vikings clever & ready to surprise the world or WHAT?!?!

Well, guess WHAT? U can easily conclude what the Not-So-Great ruler Milo DID NOT do before the Viking turn came around.
Yep, I pulled my head out of my ass* just in time to see that Wonderful Wonder Build announcement popup & hear the cheers of citizens for the UNITED NATIONS!!

There's dumb & then there's DUMBER. Guess where "Milo" fit in!!!!!!!!!
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* there WERE a number of extenuating circumstances / major distractions. They're all "documented" in the forum "news reports" along with the story of President Milo's "fall from grace" with his Viking citizens over "The DAMN Blunder".
Cap; U R welcome(?) to reprint that sad (humorous?) report from the archives U so thotfully saved for Civ II MP posterity.


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	28-05-2000 18:38									#49
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I'll dig it up out of the archives and show it in it's former glory Milo!

I think we can safely say that Milo walks away with the big prize this time. Nobody and I mean nobody can match or even come close to this!
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	28-05-2000 23:48									#50
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Original date: sept-9-1999
As Milo told previously all players at this point in time were starting to industrialize and the Dam-race was on. I didn't actively take part in the dam race. I decided to focus on building up my super science city, and BOY was it a SUPER science city!


Finally! The year of completion arrives. It all comes together like a precision machine:
1] Science Minister Testla announces we had perfected “electronics”.
2] Commerce Minister Rockefeller moves the caravans & freights directly into our capital “V”, where the “UN” wonder is being built.
3] Finance Minister Richie Rich calculates & recalculates how much gold is needed to complete this masterpiece in 1 dramatic payment; WE HAVE ENOUGH goes up the word!
4] President Milo waits patiently before giving the final, last-minute word to complete the wonder; lest the other world leaders be alerted with by a “Vikings have nearly completed the United Nations” news flash. He knows full well, that among this distinguished group of civ leaders most know it takes the same amount to complete THE DAM as the UN.
5] At last, we’re in the decade prior to completion. Of course what Milo didn’t know, was how many of the leaders had noticed we Vikings had just mastered “Electronics”. So as a ruse to, hopefully, divert the other leaders’ attention & keep them from checking their intelligence on the Vikings, Milo engaged them in lively chat session. All the while watching time tick away until the final decade began with the Russians. 1710AD, the year of completion was here at last!.
6] The (then) Great Milo gives the command, “Make it so.”
The gold flows & our capital’s production box is filled completely with shields!! It was glorious folks! Secret congratulations go out to our great business leaders for making our civ the great economic power that could do this great deed!
We are almost there.
7] Still no announcements of THE DAM being completed! Just 1 more civ to go, but it was THE civ to watch… the powerful, rich, & well-run JTF’s turn. Though our embassy intelligence reports showed they were still building the “Cure of Cancer”, we knew that could mean as much as us building the “UN”. The Jap timer ticks down ever so slowly, closer & closer to release…
8] OH NO! Customer aliens approaching! Oh, my god, they want to land & actually buy something! Don’t they know, this is a critical moment in our world’s history?! What can I do? I can’t tell them to bugger off. They are upon us, looking over the counter at Diplo world on the screen! We can’t ask for a stopping of time, GG the masterful leader of the JTF would surely suspect something & he still had the ability (we assumed) to switch wonders & complete THE DAM. To protect our doing’s & do the deal with the aliens, Milo switches the civ screen over to wife-god’s alien customer-trading software.
9] Milo the shopkeeper’s face is flush with stress. Trying to put on a happy face for the aliens. All the while consumed with the fear a window awaits his return to this world… “The Japanese have nearly completed the Hoover Dam”. Milo’s thinking,” Hurry customers, give me the damn gold-oops, I mean credit card!
Alas, the Customer aliens are satisfied, the wife-god will be pleased, & Milo the shopkeeper can return to being President Milo.
10] Diplo world switches back on the screen… Milo slowly opens his eyes… NO wonder announcement. Whew! But the Japanese still have a minute or so to move. A quick check of their cities; they are still building the “Cure”! YAHOO!! We are on the verge of one of the greatest feats of all civ history, we have come from centuries of 2nd class status to THE Civ to Beat as we enter the modern era!!!
11] The top map bar finally announces “Vikings Moves 8:00”.
Now all the world will know… “THE VIKINGS COMPLETE HOOVER DAM”. We did it!
But wait, what the… ?
What!? What is this, “…complete the United Nations”!! NO-NO-NO, this cannot be! It’s supposed to be THE DAM!
The UN, so what. That’s nothing, we already have embassies in most civ’s & another on the way. We didn’t do all this work & make all these sacrifices for the damn UN, we did it for THE DAM!!
12] Instantly answer came to the Viking leaders. Milo the MEATHEAD in all his stress, chatting, & shopkeeping (not to mention having his head up in the self-congratulatory clouds or up something!) … FAILED TO CHANGE PRODUCTION ORDERS TO HOOVER DAM!!!

All these years, all these resources, all for naught. This will forever be remembered as; “Milo’s Dam Blunder”.

	29-05-2000 02:05									#51
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it hurts just to read that story.I can imagine the tension as each clock ticked down bringing him closer to glory.

I can also imagine the tension after the fact

	29-05-2000 02:58									#52
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I remember that. I was, what, the Sioux? A lorn and bereft civ licking the dregs of the barrel of gruel (and even that with help from others).

Then, there was this civ/psychic shock wave of horror and pain through the Nations of the world!

	29-05-2000 04:51									#53
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Well, this is the most stupid thing I ALMOST did!!

The other night in the "Big Aussie Game" I was pre-building Darwin
Darwin is a 400 shield Wonder and I could only build a 300 shield wonder - yes Smartfart, like The Oracle! I had around 250 shields when I switched my lovely mined Oil square to a sea square to slow down the building; then as I 'approached' the discovery for Darwin I switched that square back again.

BUT too soon.

I noticed I was ONE shield away from producing Oracle or KRC and changed ALL squares to no shields but guess what? You can't change the city square which produced... yeah, one shield;(

Ok, PANIC!!! - what to do... the thing has left my turn and next time for me I produce a useless wonder

Our alliance had not been exchanging techs so as to stop AHorse from getting them through GL. But thank goodness hydey ho, my terrific allie, had GRAVITY!
Yes, quick hydey give me gravity....
thanks mate, you are a life saver...
quickly I change to Isaac.... get Rail....

A few turns later I had Darwin

This could prove to be a pivotal moment in this game.... to be continued in the other thread

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	29-05-2000 07:04									#54
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Ming, I was not accusing you of unethical behavior - and yet you felt compelled to defend your action. Is that your conscience you're fighting? Every person here would have done the same thing as you - but only some of us would have thanked their benefactor . But you are right, you did give me communism, however, the city building UN waiting for Hoover was already building a wonder when I switched it to UN - so communism was inconsequential. What I am very pissed about is the computer software - I had the req's for electronics and it stuck me with something else, something I could not get thru trading as I remember. Why does this happen? How does the damn software 'know' to stick it to someone? I was ready to build the best modern wonder and the software screwed me - this random act of software terrorism is very frustrating...

	29-05-2000 09:07									#55
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Defend my actions?... Heck, I thought my post was filled with HEAVY sarcasim

	29-05-2000 09:07									#56
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Defend my actions?... Heck, I thought my post was filled with HEAVY sarcasim

	29-05-2000 09:07									#57
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Defend my actions?... Heck, I thought my post was filled with HEAVY sarcasim

	29-05-2000 09:43									#58
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Deity: I had similar problem with city square shield more than once.
Since i usually have roads at the time,i rehome one unit from nearby city and production stop completely.

	29-05-2000 14:26									#59
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Yeah, I know SmartFart, but I'd already hit return Thanks though.

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	30-05-2000 04:43									#60
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I think what choices you are given is affected by what you researched before.It seems like you can't research techs from the same epoch consecutively.Or it may be 3 in a row.Something like that.