02-01-2004 22:42									#481
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Midwinter 2 it is, otherwise known as 'Flames of Freedom' by Mike Singleton who was responsible for the classic Lords of Midnight on the Spectrum.

	03-01-2004 03:43									#482
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Midwinter? I still remembering the original that took place on a large snow covered island being invaded. Everything was drawn with fractals. Very rough at closeup, but it worked. Nifty at the time.
You could travel via ski, snowmobile or even a hangglider. Essentially it was the same sort og gameplay found in lords of midnight. Find and recruit other characters or go at it alone and infiltrate enemy HQ.
Cool part was the combat action. The enemy units had a true command structure. Which meant that, if you could find the specific units and and take out the commanding lieutenant /general a large part of enemy units on the map would simply disband. Witness my surprise after I managed to take out two generals in rapid succession. Over the half the enemy forces on the map were gone in an instant! The game didn't pose much of a challenge after that.

	03-01-2004 18:27									#483
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ok...just had to look over the previous threads to check if i'd done this one or not(old age means i've played alot of games, but the downside is the memmory slips a little ).

Platform: Atari 8bit and C64(maybe Amstrad as well?)

Era: the eighties sometime

Clue 1: it had an FPS perspective; and could be considered an action game, but combined a lot of strategic gameplay as well.

Booby clue: You couldn't really play it well on a black and white t.v

	04-01-2004 03:34									#484
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor ok...just had to look over the previous threads to check if i'd done this one or not(old age means i've played alot of games, but the downside is the memmory slips a little ). Platform: Atari 8bit and C64(maybe Amstrad as well?) Era: the eighties sometime Clue 1: it had an FPS perspective; and could be considered an action game, but combined a lot of strategic gameplay as well. Booby clue: You couldn't really play it well on a black and white t.v

I think I have a very good idea of what it could be. I need one more clue however.

	04-01-2004 15:24									#485
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I'll just give it a shot: Ballblazer by Lucasfilm games

	04-01-2004 17:41									#486
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No not that game CapTVK, i'd forgotten about that game! I think i felt the artwork looked so much better than the actual game, so i never played it a great deal.

Clue 2: 'Great balls of fire!'

	05-01-2004 16:44									#487
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Sorry I went off on holiday and didn't tell anyone outside of the Civ 2 General Forum (come up and see me some time ), but curiously enough, Genghis guessed the game straight off anyway.

I've never heard of Robobabes, but it sounds a corker!

I was going to guess something like Jimmy White's Whirlwind Snooker, because that had daft little animations if you left the mouse still for too long, and one of them was the balls pulling faces and another was fire. But that's too late for these, so I'm going to guess at something I've never heard of and go for Minnesota Fats' Pool Champion or something like that.

	05-01-2004 16:45									#488
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Clue 5: victorian engineering

Edit: Welcome back duke and no its not that game

Last edited by child of Thor on 05-01-2004 at 16:53

	05-01-2004 19:14									#489
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Did I miss clues 3 and 4 somewhere?

This seems to be something like the Chaos Engine, as I'm sure there was never a Forth Bridge Tycoon game (though there's probably one in the pipeline ). Difference Engine is worth a guess....

[edit]It was called Minnesota Fats' Pool Challenge - I apologise. [/edit]

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	05-01-2004 21:32									#490
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york Did I miss clues 3 and 4 somewhere? This seems to be something like the Chaos Engine, as I'm sure there was never a Forth Bridge Tycoon game (though there's probably one in the pipeline ). Difference Engine is worth a guess.... [edit]It was called Minnesota Fats' Pool Challenge - I apologise. [/edit]

just seeing who was on their toes

No not the Difference Engine....(I must admit to never having heard of the the two games you've mentioned!)

Clue 3: might have also got a release on the Spectrum(about the same time as the amstrad,but i could be wrong about both platforms )

Clue 4: 'The Time Machine' by H.G.Wells

	06-01-2004 15:31									#491
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I'm pretty sure that the Difference Engine was a text adventure, so I'm just throwing out names here.
Which you had probably guessed already.

Mind you, nobody else seems to be trying!

	06-01-2004 15:34									#492
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I am trying.........as soon as I can think of something that even remotely fits the clues I'll pipe up.

	06-01-2004 16:45									#493
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As far as i'm aware this was a very popular game at the time, a bit of a classic(i know you guys will know it).

A recap:

Platform: Atari 8bit and C64(maybe Amstrad as well, but later on?)

Era: the eighties sometime

Clue 1: it had an FPS perspective; and could be considered an action game, but combined a lot of strategic gameplay as well.

Booby clue: You couldn't really play it well on a black and white t.v

Clue 2: 'Great balls of fire!'

Clue 3: might have also got a release on the Spectrum(about the same time as the amstrad,but i could be wrong about both platforms)

Clue 4: 'The Time Machine' by H.G.Wells

Clue 5: victorian engineering

Clue 6: It had Dragons in it(give away clue)

	06-01-2004 16:48									#494
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Not ballblazer? Wait a minute, it's Eidolon isn't it?

	06-01-2004 17:16									#495
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BINGO! another one to score on your belt CapTVK

Yes Eidolon by lucasarts(ballblazer made me sweat a little )

a review of the game with pics

One of the first big 8bit games to use the fractal graphics technique, a cool but hard game

The story was that you had found a crazy old time machine thing, all made of wood and copper pipe, and sitting in it were transported to a weird dimension(i think ). The game came with some cool documentation, some diary extracts from the crazy engineer and some great 'period' drawings of the time machine and some of the enemies you would face. A very decent game

	06-01-2004 20:07									#496
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"a very decent game"

	06-01-2004 20:39									#497
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We've nearly reached the end of this thread's natural life, so CapTVK can start another one with a brand new poser.

Hopefully a slightly more recent one, as I seem to be only able to remember the really weird obscure ones from the 80s.

	06-01-2004 21:38									#498
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quote: Originally posted by Buck Birdseed "a very decent game"

"laugh it up fuzzball!" [a starwars quote ]

Well i found it a fascinating game - sounds and graphics were beautifully done(especially considering the hardware) - but then i think the graphics on 'Necromancer' are a bit special

Still at the momment my xbox(and Morrowind, KOTOR, Splinter Cell etc) mostly sits idle while i play 'Daggerfall' and the origonal 'X-Wing' on a P166, so my case may be terminal

Yeah new thread - i gotta catch the Cap!

	07-01-2004 02:33									#499
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Hurrah! I never actually played Eidolon on the PC but I did eventually try it on an C64 emulator years later. The fractal drawn caves were impressive for a C64 and the game itself has stood the test of time well.

but now I have to come with a game again....

Check back tomorrow.

	07-01-2004 03:01									#500
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quote: Originally posted by CapTVK but now I have to come with a game again....

Marble madness?

	08-01-2004 00:30									#501
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I haven't started! What's up with your fascination with Marble Madness?

	08-01-2004 00:52									#502
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It was a preguess.

	08-01-2004 00:54									#503
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I made my preguess in the new thread.