29-11-2003 14:14									#31
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I'll be the Americans Unless I can be the Californian's. Call me Richard Nixon

	29-11-2003 17:23									#32
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Call me Paveies of Greeks.

	29-11-2003 17:58									#33
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quote: Originally posted by ricketyclik ricketyclik of the... ummm... Oh well the Welsh again I suppose. I vote yes to the scenario, perhaps the server will return to duty soon?

I can email the Apolyton pack to everyone, but you must have an inbox that can receive a 4 M file. If you want me to email please let me know the email address you want me to send the file to

I would like the scenario and I will be The Native Americans and my leader will be Nukeheart

	29-11-2003 18:22									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Nuke Boy I would like the scenario and I will be The Native Americans and my leader will be Nukeheart

dont let him get to Quantum Physics, pals !

	29-11-2003 19:58									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician dont let him get to Quantum Physics, pals !

I took over the last place civ in the last game and I was nuked

	30-11-2003 09:41									#36
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I must not have been a good host. I was nuked first

Have you tried putting it in a zip file and sending it to this thread using the upload selection above with the "control panel | search | faq | new posts | my threads | upload..." links?

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	30-11-2003 16:55									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Nimrod I must not have been a good host. I was nuked first

Sorry folks, but I thought everyone's goal was to win the game .

The reason why I took your city first had nothing to do with your hosting (btw thanks for doing that and thanks to berXpert and Nukeboy for playing too). I simply made a roundtrip in space to all cities when I had my first space plane. I made that trip in a counter-clockwise direction. My intent was to find, nuke and occupy berX's city first, since he had some interesting wonders (Edison's, the Internet ...), but I looked at the tech-transfer diplomacy screen before I tried. I saw that he already had the knowledge of space flight. So I guessed he had built SDI, rendering impossible this approach (I didn't want to waste a nuke for trying). So I continued my trip and reached Nimrod's city. Aboard the space plane were two marines. As it turned out, it was unnecessary to nuke the city, since the first marine, which I sent out for testing, managed to take out the two ancient units guarding the city. So I had two intact cities, a space plane with a marine and a nuke (actually I had a nuke for each of the other cities at turn 110, but I decided it was much more fun to use them together with the space plane, which I didn't have at that time). The next logical step was to conquer Nukeboy's city. And with three cities vs. one victory is only a matter of time.

Conclusion: Never let one player get Quantum Physics and Advanced Composites long before you have it in a One City Challenge type game .

Have fun with OCC 2!

	30-11-2003 17:38									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Nimrod Have you tried putting it in a zip file and sending it to this thread using the upload selection above with the "control panel | search | faq | new posts | my threads | upload..." links?

thank you very much Nimrod.
here is the file:
http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Ma...lytonPackv1.zip

its still an apolyton link but it seemed to work when i tried.

	30-11-2003 17:57									#39
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quote: Originally posted by hatschy Sorry folks, but I thought everyone's goal was to win the game . The reason why I took your city first had nothing to do with your hosting (btw thanks for doing that and thanks to berXpert and Nukeboy for playing too). I simply made a roundtrip in space to all cities when I had my first space plane. I made that trip in a counter-clockwise direction. My intent was to find, nuke and occupy berX's city first, since he had some interesting wonders (Edison's, the Internet ...), but I looked at the tech-transfer diplomacy screen before I tried. I saw that he already had the knowledge of space flight. So I guessed he had built SDI, rendering impossible this approach (I didn't want to waste a nuke for trying). So I continued my trip and reached Nimrod's city. Aboard the space plane were two marines. As it turned out, it was unnecessary to nuke the city, since the first marine, which I sent out for testing, managed to take out the two ancient units guarding the city. So I had two intact cities, a space plane with a marine and a nuke (actually I had a nuke for each of the other cities at turn 110, but I decided it was much more fun to use them together with the space plane, which I didn't have at that time). The next logical step was to conquer Nukeboy's city. And with three cities vs. one victory is only a matter of time. Conclusion: Never let one player get Quantum Physics and Advanced Composites long before you have it in a One City Challenge type game . Have fun with OCC 2!

Its too bad you will not be playing in OCC II. I'm looking forward to playing the game from start to finish.

	30-11-2003 19:10									#40
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quote: Originally posted by ricketyclik I vote yes to the scenario, perhaps the server will return to duty soon?

what does that mean, btw ?

what do we vote on here ? as opposed to what ?

	01-12-2003 03:35									#41
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After downloading and reviewing the pack, I think it is a highly feasable option. In for me.

	01-12-2003 06:24									#42
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FlameFlash of the Native Americans please.

I'd rather not do scenario and just play with the one city and later sea cities and space cities if we even get that far.

	02-12-2003 04:21									#43
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i tried the scenario pack.

im having problems both with starting PBEM games (it wont go beyond the screen where you choose names, civs and addresses) and with reloading a SP game (it gives a bunch of error messages and either doesnt load or some features of the scenario are simply "forgotten", e.g. that trade goods should give 5 instead of 10)

	03-12-2003 00:10									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician i tried the scenario pack. im having problems both with starting PBEM games (it wont go beyond the screen where you choose names, civs and addresses)

forget that one i didnt enter email addresses

	03-12-2003 02:23									#45
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but now, since i installed ApoPack, i get strange maps when i start a normal game.
can anyone help me ?

	03-12-2003 02:26									#46
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PLUS, i cannot load my scenario saved game at all anymore.
it seems this pack is only causing problems.

	03-12-2003 03:00									#47
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I'm very fleixble regarding the type of game we play. I would be willing to play a regular game and for those with issues with the Apolyton pack perhaps we could play a separate game for those agreeable.

	03-12-2003 06:41									#48
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FYI, quiting and restarting CTP before and after playing scenarios helps to prevent file confusion on the programs part.

I would like to see an 8 player OCC. Would make things interesting. Another game could be started at any time with the scenario.

	03-12-2003 19:35									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Nimrod I would like to see an 8 player OCC. Would make things interesting. Another game could be started at any time with the scenario.

I second that.

	09-12-2003 07:44									#50
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checkMate - gossett192@yahoo.com - Richard Nixon of the Americans
Mathemagician - Mathemagician@gmx.de - Rainer of the Germans
ricketyclik of the Welsh
Nukeboy - nukeboy1960@aol.com - Nukeheart of the Native Americans
Pave - patrick.blom@surfeu.fi - Paveies of Greeks
FlameFlash - flameflash@mac.com - (Sorry Nuke beat you to the Native Americans)
David42One - david42one@yahoo.com - Radom civ?

Rules are pretty simple, one land city per civilization except through conquest. No queue tricks, settler tricks, slaver tricks, cheap tricks, poker tricks, hat trick, etc. I will create some time this week. If anyone wants to make changes to anthing let me know.

	09-12-2003 11:16									#51
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guys, if we could delay this until my CTP works properly again, it would be nice.
im busy for at least 10 more days.

btw, what do you mean by queue trick ?

	09-12-2003 19:00									#52
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One change, call me The Great Muzzy of Greeks instead.

	09-12-2003 22:44									#53
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Queue Tricks:

Building a granary until 1 turn till next pop growth. Rush buy granary, in build queue, add settler then delete granary in queue. Build. One settler for a third of normal cost. This can be done with any units. You can also start with somthing cheap like city walls, temple, or capitol. Rush buy them. Switch the queue to somthing that cost a little bit more. Rush buy. Switch to something a little bit more. Rush buy... As you progress ,you will spend less money than if you tried to rush buy that, lets say factory, right out.

	09-12-2003 22:59									#54
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i see.

i noticed that when you start building a unit or improvement, then midway switch to the other type, you will normally lose some percentage.

however, im used to setting my production via build queue. so if you change it by adding an item to your build queue and deleting the orignal one, you dont get that penalty.

is that okay ?
which one is the bug / cheat here ?

	10-12-2003 04:05									#55
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You can switch items in your build queue, adding and deleting, freely. Its when you rush buy then switch that the bugs come in to play. Settler/granary trick I think is another common name for it.

	12-12-2003 09:38									#56
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I'll go Irish BTW.

	21-12-2003 05:24									#57
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I will be starting the game soon. How are you doing Math? Everyone one else ready?

	21-12-2003 05:54									#58
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im done with my diploma thesis, gonna fix CTP tomorrow

	21-12-2003 22:47									#60
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hmm it seems to work, but i havent done anything since. lets just go