28-11-2003 12:04									#31
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NYC. I love the city and all, but some parts of the city is just awful.

	28-11-2003 12:43									#32
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The summer of '89 I drove from Phili to NYC. I left the interstate one turn off too early and ended up in "Omega Man", NJ. Actually, I have no idea what the "suburb" was called, but it consisted mostly of burned out buildings, most of which still seemed to have people living in them.

I didn't stop to explore. Maybe Dubbya should summer there ? (I know Imran is from eastern NJ, maybe he knows what its called.)

	28-11-2003 14:29									#33
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RENO NEVADA

	28-11-2003 17:34									#34
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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 RENO NEVADA

Definitely honorable mention. We were driving from Colorado to California for a wedding and decided to stop in Reno and get a hotel, as neither of us could safely go on. After about an hour of trying to get around and find a hotel that wasn't a complete pain in the ass, we drove out of there to Truckee California. By comparison Truckee was paradise.

	28-11-2003 17:56									#35
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Glasgow, Scotland

	28-11-2003 19:45									#36
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Dragör, Denmark. Not a real city but a neighborhood in Copenhagen. We stopped at a gas station to get a hot dog. Then, for some reason, the manager started to follow us around in our car......

	28-11-2003 19:48									#37
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Why'd you let him into your car in the first place?

	28-11-2003 19:53									#38
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quote: The summer of '89 I drove from Phili to NYC. I left the interstate one turn off too early and ended up in "Omega Man", NJ.

Hoboken? Orange?

I don't know much about around NYC or Philly. I tended to avoid those parts of Jersey. The rest of it was SOOOO much better .

	28-11-2003 19:57									#39
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quote: What cities/towns have you spent time in that you would recommend only to people you really dislike ?

Sřnderborg, Denmark...

...but not until I move out of here of course

	28-11-2003 20:39									#40
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I have been all over Jersey and have yet to see anything that compares in sheer desolation to Philadelphia.

(Except for maybe Camden...but I blame Philly for that too)

	28-11-2003 21:04									#41
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Den Helder. What a shithole.

	28-11-2003 22:19									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Bas Den Helder. What a shithole.

Second that...

	28-11-2003 23:13									#43
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Gary, Indiana.

and Agrabah. not that i've ever been there, but it's a fun city name to say, and it seems to work well with the start of the line...

	28-11-2003 23:54									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf Bangkok: what a shithole

I liked Bangkok. You have to understand it is a third world country but once that sinks in things aren't so bad. The international hotels are great and there are plenty of things to see. The royal palace, the floating market, the old main city market place, Wat after wat after wat after wat...

It's also interesting to go to the tourist district just to look around. Sure you will be mobbed by prostitutes but there are lots of bargins to be had in fack western designer goods & computer software plus the food is world class if you go to the right places.

	29-11-2003 00:00									#45
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom Even Fresno looked better.

DEAR LORD! That place must really be a **** hole.

	29-11-2003 01:42									#46
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Hannover, Germany.

	29-11-2003 03:01									#47
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Grimsby: revolting derelict place completed with a fragrance of rotting fish...

	29-11-2003 03:11									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin I liked Bangkok. You have to understand it is a third world country but once that sinks in things aren't so bad. The international hotels are great and there are plenty of things to see. The royal palace, the floating market, the old main city market place, Wat after wat after wat after wat... It's also interesting to go to the tourist district just to look around. Sure you will be mobbed by prostitutes but there are lots of bargins to be had in fack western designer goods & computer software plus the food is world class if you go to the right places.

I did say i liked it. It just took some getting used to. I got a culture shock to say the least. I'm a laid back kind of guy and Bangkok is definately not a laidback kind of city. I was only there on a stopover for a couple of days but I saw the sites and they were nice. The food OTOH, it tasted good but it just wasn't compatible with my system

	29-11-2003 03:20									#49
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East St. Louis. Name a disgusting human condition -- find it there.

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My long list of populated places I liked:

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Then again, I've not left the Australian East Coast...
Bloody Australians. Thick as bricks because they just don't care.

I hope to go to Stockholm, Montreal or Tokyo some day - I hear that Japanese, Swedish and Canadian folk have brains...

	29-11-2003 03:57									#51
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tsk, you're quite the moper today, aren't'cha ?

tokyo's nothing special. it's like ever other east asian city.

montreal is filled with canadians who want to be french.

and stockholm is filled with swedes, who aren't finns. 'nuff said.

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	29-11-2003 05:54									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed and stockholm is filled with swedes, who aren't finns. 'nuff said.

Actually, there are loads of Finns in Stockholm. Just visit nearest park bench.

	29-11-2003 07:07									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Juggernaut Actually, there are loads of Finns in Stockholm. Just visit nearest park bench.

And look under it. That's a likely place to find them. There are actually social security clerks in Finland who tell their clients to abuse the Nordic Agreement of Free Movement and move to Stockholm because the social security benefits are better there (just to remove the thrashy yunkies from their own district, off course). Most of the homeless in Stockholm are Finns.

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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed tokyo's nothing special. it's like ever other east asian city.

I thought Tokyo was much cleaner then most other east Asian cities. It was interesting to go to but I wouldn't go there specifically for a visit. If I was in east Asia I'd totally go back but I've seen all the sights so it's not worth the 16 hour trans-pacific flight.

	29-11-2003 07:33									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie Most of the homeless in Stockholm are Finns.

Is that because Swedish employers don't want to hire Finns or is it for some other reason?

	29-11-2003 07:45									#56
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It's for the reason I posted. The Nordic region has an agreement of free movement of any citizen between the countries. Sweden has a system of quite generous social security benefits. An unemployed alcoholic could get the rent payed (in a junky apartment), and some money for food. Some Finnish social security clerks tell their clients to move to Sweden, just to save Finnish tax payer's money.

But then the junkies are too proud to ask for social security money or they don't qualify for other reasons. and are doomed to hit the street.

	29-11-2003 08:59									#57
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I can't believe this thread could have went so far without anyone mentioning Baltimore. It's the worst place that ever existed. In the summer, it's suffocatingly hot, and the traffic is reminiscent of scenes of trains in India... terrible. Plus, it's impossible to go there without getting lost. I once tried to find Eutaw Street and almost ended up in Pennsylvania.

That said, I have to second NYC. The only thing I liked about going to New York was kicking a pigeon in Central Park. That was fun.

	29-11-2003 18:29									#58
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Which Baltimore?
That one in the US or the one in England?

	29-11-2003 18:33									#59
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quote: tokyo's nothing special. it's like ever other east asian city.

Tokyo does suck; Osaka is a million times better. Tokyo is still better than the shithole that is Seoul, however.

	29-11-2003 18:35									#60
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Oh, and I vote for Grand Junction, Colorado. May god have mercy on their souls...