04-12-2003 05:33									#61
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Newsflash -- Santa is not real.

No sh*t Sherlock.

So is Batman. But DC wont turn him into gay Batman.

A Gay Santa is the most stupid thing I have heard in gay history. Why dont you people create your own christmas icons instead of taking the ones we already have and molding them the way you want.

What's next? Gay action heros? FaggotMAN to the rescue!!!

Pleeeeeease.

Sickining.

Spec.

	04-12-2003 06:48									#62
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By the way -- need I remind people that it was SlowwHand who had to sexualize a gay Santa Clause? If this thread is filthy at this point, I think we know who started that.

Why can't a g-rated gay Santa Clause be represented??

	04-12-2003 06:51									#63
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Santa Clause is nothing to be proud of.

	04-12-2003 06:51									#64
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Read my last post.

Spec.

	04-12-2003 06:53									#65
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You're on the losing end of this one, Spec. MrFun is absolutely right.

	04-12-2003 06:57									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Spec No sh*t Sherlock. So is Batman. But DC wont turn him into gay Batman. A Gay Santa is the most stupid thing I have heard in gay history. Why dont you people create your own christmas icons instead of taking the ones we already have and molding them the way you want. What's next? Gay action heros? FaggotMAN to the rescue!!! Pleeeeeease. Sickining. Spec.

I DID read your last post -- but maybe it helps if I quote you, AND then respond.



By the way -- did you have to use the word "FaggotMan?"

	04-12-2003 06:58									#67
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It's like a ball.

Slowwy gave the thread a little nudge after you picked it up and pushed it down the hill.

	04-12-2003 06:58									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Spec What's next, a Gay easter bunny !?!?

I hate to break it to you, but the easter bunny's already gay. I mean, come on all those pastels and rainbows. Not to mention it's a single rabbit going around laying eggs - that's obviously some sort of weird gay thing.

	04-12-2003 07:22									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi It's like a ball. Slowwy gave the thread a little nudge after you picked it up and pushed it down the hill.

Well, I wanted to discuss the cultural contributions that non-heterosexuals have made in this country or other countries.

	04-12-2003 07:24									#70
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Couldn't this guy have just played the role of Mrs Claus and be done with it. To draw overattention to the fact makes is certainly counterproductive, I feel. In my mind I now see this as a display of attention seeking and egotism, and by the overt association with non-hetrosexuality does nothing to endear the group to which he so devoutly stands to promote.

If he had played the role and received silent acknowledgement then it would have more effect on people minds. They would, without being brow beaten, realise that they see nothing unusual in a gay man dressing up as Mrs Claus in a parade.

I guess my point is, if you want your sexual orientation to be accepted as normal/usual in any situation then why do try to make the point that its an unusual event for a gay person to do these normal things?

	04-12-2003 07:28									#71
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UGH -- apparently you guys are WAY too hung up on this gay Santa Clause thing.

I should have picked some other source that discussed cultural contributions by non-heterosexuals.

	04-12-2003 07:31									#72
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quote: Anyway, try to look at the main point -- that non-heterosexuals are part of American culture more than many heterosexuals realize.

That explains the sad state of American culture.

	04-12-2003 07:32									#73
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So the best cultural contribution by *ahem* non-heterosexuals is playing Mrs. Claus in a Christmas pageant?

	04-12-2003 07:33									#74
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Santa can be played by gay or straight, I don't care, but why the need to draw attention to that fact? As for discussing Santa's sexuality, that is an absurd discussion in my mind as it is a complete irrelevancy.

I think a topic where sexuality is still a real discrimanatory or prejudicial problem would be a better context to discuss non-heterosexual contributions to society.

	04-12-2003 07:42									#75
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It's really is scary what a couple thousand Apolyton threads throughout the years can do to you. I had to read a substantial part of this thread before it struck me just how surreal it is to discuss the notion of a gay Santa and its implications.

Big Crunch, I think "absurd" might be too soft a word. For the remainder of this thread, I suggest the word "grotesque" be applied.

	04-12-2003 08:48									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Monk Big Crunch, I think "absurd" might be too soft a word. For the remainder of this thread, I suggest the word "grotesque" be applied.

Its not quite grotesque. Perhaps if we started discussing Santa's favourite sexual position, citing references from Mrs Claus and maybe a few voyeuristic elves, then it would be grotesque.

	04-12-2003 09:09									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker That explains the sad state of American culture.

Thanks for your bigoted statement -- or lame joke -- whichever one it is.





This thread can be closed -- which moderator will do the honors??

	04-12-2003 09:27									#78
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It was a joke, sheesh! Not much fun are you, you want to brag about the homosexual contributions to American culture and I'll point out how American culture sucks.

	04-12-2003 11:33									#79
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You should realize by now that smilies are a crutch for me on here, since I lack a good sense of humor.








Anyway -- sorry for my misunderstanding.

	04-12-2003 11:35									#80
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No problem, I just don't like using smilies all the time, they kind of detract from "dry" humor if you know what I mean.

	04-12-2003 11:37									#81
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So sign the peace treaty by the "X."

	04-12-2003 12:42									#82
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quote: So is Batman. But DC wont turn him into gay Batman.

No, SNL already did that.

quote: A Gay Santa is the most stupid thing I have heard in gay history. Why dont you people create your own christmas icons instead of taking the ones we already have and molding them the way you want.

"You people"? "taking the ones we already have"?

Wow...I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt too. So Santa Claus is only a Christmas Icon for heterosexuals?

MrFun - why close this thread? I think it's serving a good purpose

	04-12-2003 17:03									#83
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is it just me, or did most of you kinda think that santa was asexual? i mean, when you were younger, when you actually believed in him, you didn't really care about his sexuality; now, older, he's a fictional character, and if he's older than you, the thought of his sexuality is just plain gross, whether he's straight or not, and if he's younger than you, you probably don't have much of a libido remaining.

so, like most things that people make issues of about gay people, why? so there's a gay santa. why the **** does that matter who plays the role of santa?

	04-12-2003 22:18									#84
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quote: Originally posted by orange "You people"?

Meaning the gay community.

quote: "taking the ones we already have"?

Meaning the population as a whole.

No offense ment by these words.


Spec.

	04-12-2003 22:34									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Spec Meaning the population as a whole.

Doesn't that include the gay community?

	04-12-2003 22:44									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld Doesn't that include the gay community?

Indeed. Why?


Spec.

	04-12-2003 22:52									#87
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I think he meant why bother trying to change a current icon when you can just create a whole new "gay" one.

Like Mr. Hanky!
An aluminum pole for festivus!
ect.

What would a good gay christmas icon be?



Something falic... and festive... that can also appeal to lezbians...

I got nothing... Gay Santa it is.

	04-12-2003 22:56									#88
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Rudolph the brown nose rain deer. There we go.

Spec.

	04-12-2003 23:00									#89
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quote: Originally posted by orange MrFun - why close this thread? I think it's serving a good purpose

I guess this is why the moderators did not honor my request.




And good point -- SNL already created a gay Batman before.

	04-12-2003 23:00									#90
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No, most reindeer have brown noses. This would indicate, or send the message, that homosexuals (uh, I mean non-heteros) are normal and just like everyone else

Besides Rudolph just isn't a gay enough name.