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MattPilot
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Tulsa, OK
Dec 2003
time: 05:32
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irrelevent? The only reason germany has more recognition is because they elected a madman who is known around the world.
If there were no habsburg empire, there would of never been a germany (of course, if there were no 'holy' roman empire, there would of never been a habsburg empire).
With the significant growth of the habsburg empire during Emporer Maximilius (sp?) period of the roman empire in 14-1500's, the habsburg empire decided to also 'split' its possesions (in 1814 during the vienna convention) to have more effective control over it.
Should a civ be in the game soley because they are well known because of a single war, or should a civ be in the game because of its evolution through time ?
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pauli
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herndon, va, usa
Jan 2000
time: 00:32
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"oh look, my elite mounties made an mgl!"
"hmm. his name is 'dudley doright..."
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Plotinus
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[Mattpilot] To be fair, I don't think Germany has world recognition simply because of a single war... I hope that you would have heard of the place even if the Second World War had never happened or Hitler (who was of course Austrian) had never existed. It has, I believe, the fourth largest economy in the world. Germany was a major player in nineteenth century politics after its unification under Bismarck - who, you will notice, is a pre-twentieth century figure who is used by Civ3 as Germany's leader. Germany as a single political identity may not have existed before 1871, but it certainly did as a cultural grouping - and if the Celts can qualify as a single civilisation in this game, then the Germans certainly can. You could date them all the way back to the ninth century and the Carolingian age, at least.
The English, by the way, are far more than just a bunch of Angles and Saxons... in fact, there has been so much immigration, invasion, and general mixing over the centuries that only about a quarter of our makeup is Anglo-Saxon. For example, three-quarters of all Britons today are partly descended from French Huguenots who came here in the seventeenth century.
Oh, and they *did* include Austria anyway, didn't they? You have to mod it into the game because they had reached the limit, but it's tucked away somewhere on the Conquests disc.
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Plotinus
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[Switch] Pardon my ignorance, but surely the United States came into being in 1783 or thereabouts, whereas Germany came into being in 1871?
Bear in mind, too, that the term "1800s" refers to the years 1800-1809, not to the whole of the nineteenth century. It's an increasingly common mistake...
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MattPilot
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Tulsa, OK
Dec 2003
time: 05:32
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Switch - i do believe thats what i said. maybe "followed" would have been a more proper word instead of "next" - guess i'm no expert in english.
btw, i think it has more to do to the fact that germany has over 10x potential customers than austria has.
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Plotinus
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quote:
Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior
Masada and Qumran should be there. |
No they shouldn't. Masada was a fortress, not a city. Qumran was a small religious community, basically like a monastery, with links of some kind to the Essene movement.
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02-02-2004 06:35
they could have a Mountie UU that gets a bonus for oppressing "barbarians") 
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