25-12-2003 02:54									#31
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THEYVE SLAUGHTERED THOSE COWS IN WASHINGTON! EVIL COMMUNISTS!

SAVE THE COWS!!!!

	25-12-2003 02:55									#32
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Throw the cows out of helicopters

	25-12-2003 03:37									#33
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skywalker, the modern Les Nessman.

	25-12-2003 04:25									#34
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quote: Even funnier, those animals wouldn't have existed in the first place otherwise

actually, most of them wouldn't have

quote: Yeah, but did your mommy take a knife and kill all those animals like on the poster?

same difference

	25-12-2003 04:27									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Sava quote: Even funnier, those animals wouldn't have existed in the first place otherwise actually, most of them wouldn't have

huh?

	25-12-2003 04:33									#36
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker quote: Originally posted by Sava quote: Even funnier, those animals wouldn't have existed in the first place otherwise actually, most of them wouldn't have huh?

think of the millions of chickens that would never have been born if not for the demand for their meat... so yes, you are correct when you say they never would have existed in the first place. I'm speaking of individual animals, not the species.

	25-12-2003 06:59									#37
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PETA isn't handing out these pamphlets willy-nilly, just to the kids of women who show up in furs. So it's not about eating chicken etc... even though thats another of PETA's pet peeves...

	25-12-2003 07:00									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Sava think of the millions of chickens that would never have been born if not for the demand for their meat... so yes, you are correct when you say they never would have existed in the first place. I'm speaking of individual animals, not the species.

Oh. My "huh?" was because you said "actually" and then proceeded to state that I was, indeed, correct

	25-12-2003 07:35									#39
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quote: PETA isn't handing out these pamphlets willy-nilly, just to the kids of women who show up in furs.

That's supposed to make it better because?

	25-12-2003 07:51									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: PETA isn't handing out these pamphlets willy-nilly, just to the kids of women who show up in furs. That's supposed to make it better because?

better? what's wrong with it? wearing an animal like a fur is disgusting... people should be saying to those kids, "Hey your mommy is a ****ing *****!"



leather is different though... the cows are used for many more things.

	25-12-2003 07:54									#41
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quote: leather is different though

Uh huh... I know this would come out .

You have to somehow justify wearing leather because you know you wear it, but you don't wear furs.

	25-12-2003 08:03									#42
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I remember in the news hearing that PETA compared the killing of chickens to the Holocost. PETA has crossed the line already and now I think most people think they are just a bunch of wackos. When you start comparing the killing of animals for food to gencide of humans that is way over the line. These people are idiots.

	25-12-2003 08:06									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker PETA isn't handing out these pamphlets willy-nilly, just to the kids of women who show up in furs. So it's not about eating chicken etc... even though thats another of PETA's pet peeves...

And to those kids who's moms are wearing fake furs as well - does anyone think they can (or will bother to) tell the difference?

The controversy is that their original targetted audience was any child, regardless of age. If some fvckwit handed my Sophie something like that, I'd give it back to him - orally.

	25-12-2003 08:10									#44
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--"Wouldn't that deer begin to stink, after a couple of years?"

I didn't say it was always the same deer.

Besides, you have no idea how cold it was up there. I remember one winter that hit -60 (and that's not counting wind-chill). Don't have to worry about rot at those temperatures.

--""Meat is justifiable murder.""

I've always liked the "If god didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them so tasty" argument, myself.

--"Yeah, but did your mommy take a knife and kill all those animals like on the poster?"

Not if she wants to keep the fur. PETA, of course, wouldn't be familiar with the methods of skinning a carcas, but still. You'd think they'd have some idea of what they're complaining about.

Nah.

--"You have to somehow justify wearing leather because you know you wear it, but you don't wear furs."

See the tagline..

--"PETA has crossed the line already"

They crossed it years ago and kept going. Maybe they'll come around from the other side one of these days.

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People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs.

	25-12-2003 09:05									#45
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You know that around here if they passed out those pamphlets many kids would just grin and brag about the size of the buck that Mom bagged last year.

	25-12-2003 10:26									#46
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quote: People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs.

I'd like those rich women to kick some ass .

	25-12-2003 10:48									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui You have to somehow justify wearing leather because you know you wear it, but you don't wear furs.

I don't wear leather, nor do I own any leather products...
so...


SUCK IT

	25-12-2003 10:49									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Jack_www I remember in the news hearing that PETA compared the killing of chickens to the Holocost. PETA has crossed the line already and now I think most people think they are just a bunch of wackos. When you start comparing the killing of animals for food to gencide of humans that is way over the line. These people are idiots.

why? because humans are sooooo special?

**** that... I think someone killing a cat is worse than killing a human. At least the human can defend itself.

**** humans... most evil creatures ever to walk this earth.

	25-12-2003 11:32									#49
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Imran -

quote: That's supposed to make it better because?

John T -

quote: And to those kids who's moms are wearing fake furs as well - does anyone think they can (or will bother to) tell the difference? The controversy is that their original targetted audience was any child, regardless of age. If some fvckwit handed my Sophie something like that, I'd give it back to him - orally.

Calm down boys, I was merely introducing a fact into this thread some are ignoring, not endorsing PETA or it's tactics.

It is amusing to see John complaining about other people pushing unsolicited messages after applauding the TV ads effectively calling parents or guardians irresponsible for using pot though.

	25-12-2003 11:37									#50
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quote: It is amusing to see John complaining about other people pushing unsolicited messages after applauding the TV ads effectively calling parents or guardians irresponsible for using pot though.

pishhhaa... a republican being hypocritical?!?!?! NEVAR!

	25-12-2003 11:40									#51
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Sava -

quote: **** that... I think someone killing a cat is worse than killing a human. At least the human can defend itself.

Pick a fight with a cat and you might rethink that. But not everyone can defend themselves, look at that nurse "euthenising" all those sick people.

quote: **** humans... most evil creatures ever to walk this earth.

You're evil? The fact we are like all the other predators and need to kill to eat and survive isn't evil, just the way it is...

	25-12-2003 11:42									#52
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quote: I don't wear leather, nor do I own any leather products...

Really? No belts?

quote: why? because humans are sooooo special?

Actually, yes .

	25-12-2003 11:43									#53
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quote: pishhhaa... a republican being hypocritical?!?!?! NEVAR!

It would seem some messages are okay and some are not. I believe it's called "political correctness"...

	25-12-2003 11:58									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker Sava - Pick a fight with a cat and you might rethink that. But not everyone can defend themselves, look at that nurse "euthenising" all those sick people.

I do fight my cats sometimes... they can be mean... (I don't hurt my cats, playing sometimes turns into "get the **** away from me stupid ass human!" but compared to nuclear bombs, no other animal comes close to being the killer human beings are.

quote: You're evil? The fact we are like all the other predators and need to kill to eat and survive isn't evil, just the way it is...

yes I am... but I'm not stuck in some hypocritical moralist wet dream believing humans are good... sure, some people can be good... but they are outliers.

quote: Really? No belts?

oops, I own two belts... well AT LEAST WE EAT COWS AND MAKE TONS OF OTHER **** OUTTA THEM... minks and other furry animals are just slaughtered for their fur. If you are going to slaughter a species for something, you might as well get as much out of the beast as you can!

oh BTW berzerker... euthenasia for terminally ill people is not killing a defenseless being... IT'S PREVENTING A PERSON FROM SUFFERING IN COMPLETE AGONY BEFORE THEY INEVITABLY DIE ANYWAYS!?!?!

I assume you are referring to that other lady who is a vegetable in Florida. Do you know the Metallica song one? The guy who is blind, paralyzed, deaf, mute... but still alive? What other hell can there possibly be than being stuck in an immobilized, senseless body? I can't think of one.

But then all these dumb**** conservatives think they are saving a life or something by keeping some woman artificially alive hooked up to eight million ****ing machines getting force fed intraveneously...

OH YEAH THAT'S LFIE!!!

go become a vegetable and be hooked up to life suport for a decade, I bet it will be the TIME OF YORU LFIE!!!

	25-12-2003 12:01									#55
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quote: AT LEAST WE EAT COWS AND MAKE TONS OF OTHER **** OUTTA THEM... minks and other furry animals are just slaughtered for their fur. If you are going to slaughter a species for something, you might as well get as much out of the beast as you can!

Just because you don't want to eat mink-meat does not mean they should be penalized .

I have nothing against people wearing fur. The excuse that we make other things out of cows is a cop out argument.

	25-12-2003 12:05									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Just because you don't want to eat mink-meat does not mean they should be penalized .

I'm not talking about using law or any kind of official penalties... but people should just know that if I see you wearing fur, I'm going to call you an ******* or **** sucking **** head... or whatever..

quote: I have nothing against people wearing fur. The excuse that we make other things out of cows is a cop out argument.

there is a distinct difference in using a material or wearing a material taken from an animal, and parading around in one like it's a ****ign trophy...

plus, most fur wearers are rich people and I hate rich people...

	25-12-2003 12:12									#57
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quote: there is a distinct difference in using a material or wearing a material taken from an animal, and parading around in one like it's a ****ign trophy...

How do you know they are parading around like a trophy? Fur is very warm. Especially in colder areas up North, it makes good sense.

quote: plus, most fur wearers are rich people and I hate rich people...

Thought so. At its core this is a classist hatred. You'd have no problem if fur was worn by mostly poor people.

	25-12-2003 12:13									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker PETA isn't handing out these pamphlets willy-nilly, just to the kids of women who show up in furs. So it's not about eating chicken etc... even though thats another of PETA's pet peeves...

Of course some of those women are likely wearing fake furs. If those same women are vegetarians etc., PETA may very well be a bunch of liars in that instance.

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui How do you know they are parading around like a trophy? Fur is very warm. Especially in colder areas up North, it makes good sense.

aight... if you live in Siberia and wear fur, then fine, I won't call you a **** eating **** wad...

quote: Thought so. At its core this is a classist hatred. You'd have no problem if fur was worn by mostly poor people.

nah, I hate poor people too... I hate everyone, remember?!

	25-12-2003 12:27									#60
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quote: aight... if you live in Siberia and wear fur, then fine, I won't call you a **** eating **** wad...

What if you are just a very cold person generally? Or what if you like how it looks? Doesn't matter to me, no problem with people wearing furs at all.