24-12-2003 08:51									#31
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Good idea. The only problem being that I've never seen a cow in Japan and really don't know where they are...

They might be in Hokkaido, but I'm not going to that frozen hell-hole. Looks like it's all up to you, my Canadian comrade. Good luck.

	24-12-2003 08:52									#32
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Perhaps praying to Hathor, The Cow God, will yield better results.

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	24-12-2003 08:52									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Only beef (and even then an overreaction). Chicken has been safe throughout.

For the record, the risk of contracting salmonella poisoning from eating chicken (which can kill you) is incomparably higher than the risk of contracting nvCJD from eating beef.

This whole Mad Cow Disease scare looks like it's going to turn out to be just a bunch of media hype.

	24-12-2003 08:53									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Good idea. The only problem being that I've never seen a cow in Japan and really don't know where they are... They might be in Hokkaido, but I'm not going to that frozen hell-hole. Looks like it's all up to you, my Canadian comrade. Good luck.

I'll get in my canoe and start paddling.

	24-12-2003 08:54									#35
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They're probably all indoors at the Honda plant or something.

	24-12-2003 08:56									#36
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quote: I'll get in my canoe and start paddling.

It's one star to the left of Alaska and then straight on until morning...

quote: Perhaps praying to Hathor, The Cow God, will yield better results.

Hey, that reminded me that there's a statue of a cow inside my local Shinto shrine. 'Tis time to placate the kami for deliverance, me thinks...

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	24-12-2003 10:13									#38
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quote: Japan was the first country to find an infected cow outside of Europe. Its first case of the disease was reported in the Chiba area east of Tokyo in August 2001. In November this year, Japan confirmed that a 21-month-old Holstein in Hiroshima prefecture in western Japan had tested positive for BSE on October 29. It was the ninth mad cow case for Japan since the illness was discovered in the country two years ago and its second in less than a month.

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/BUSINES...reax/index.html

The Japanese are hippocrytes!!!

	24-12-2003 10:14									#39
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What a ****ing bunch of ****ing *****.

	24-12-2003 10:15									#40
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Especially given that their cattle population has to be smaller than either the US' or Canada's...

	24-12-2003 10:16									#41
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I'm going to punch some random Japanese guy in the face tonight. That'll teach them to **** with American beef!

	24-12-2003 10:18									#42
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USA! USA! USA!

	24-12-2003 10:19									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Shogun Gunner Perhaps praying to Hathor, The Cow God, will yield better results.

Perhaps not

	24-12-2003 10:19									#44
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I'll give him a kick while he's down for Canada, as well.

Oh Canada, our home and native land...

	24-12-2003 11:36									#45
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Anyhow, the UK had like what? 5 deaths from BSE?

http://www.cjd.ed.ac.uk/figures.htm

Total number of deaths as a result of vCJD in the UK as of 1st December 2003 = 101, with another 36 deaths believed, but not proven beyond doubt, to be caused by vCJD.

First reported deaths (3 of them) were in 1995.

137 deaths in 9 years = 15 deaths per year on average. Nothing to start getting frantic about, but still that's fifteen more than you'd want.

Yearly deaths from vCJD increased until they reached a peak of 28 in 2000. They've been steadily falling since then - there were 16 this year.

	24-12-2003 11:39									#46
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And that, of course, doesn't take into account the effect that the BSE outbreak had (and is having) on the farming industry in this country. Burning millions of cows really ****s up the pastoral farming sector.

	24-12-2003 12:26									#47
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This is a Christmas "gift" I'm sure cattlemen and women could do well without. Ah, well, it was only a matter of time ...

Gatekeeper

	24-12-2003 12:43									#48
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oh no, this is.... oh wait, it doesn't affect me at all.

	24-12-2003 14:57									#49
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Is it just me or has there been a whole bunch of disease-related news recently?

We're stumbling from SARS to mad cow in Canada to the early flu season in America to H5N1 in Korea to mad cow in America?

	24-12-2003 15:45									#50
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This is going to further intensify the trade wars, no?

	24-12-2003 15:46									#51
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Blame the Atkins diet

	24-12-2003 18:45									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Beef was already expensive enough here (Korea) as it is...

Ha Ha, now it is going to get cheaper in the USA, where it had recently doubled in price, due to restricted import from contaminated countires and the Adkins diet fad. Good for USA consumers; the cattle industry loes some of its recent boom.

	25-12-2003 05:32									#53
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Who put that Korea reference in my quote? I'll kill the man who implied that I live in Korea!

	25-12-2003 07:24									#54
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Maybe we should smuggle some infected cow meat in and feed it to Japanese cows. We wait for a test to turn up an infected animal and they'll have to drop their ban...

Actually Japan already has had some cases of its own... damn hypocrites...

	25-12-2003 07:59									#55
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I think this is an overreaction. First off you can only get Mad Cow from eating the brain tissue or neverous teasue of an infected animal. Here in the United States, they no longer feed cows the organs of other cows in their feed in response to the Mad Cow in Britain.

I heard that this cow's organs were being used in dog food though. So if you have a dog I would be a little worried. BUt I know that the beef I eat is safe and wont stop eating it.

I heard on the news that only 130 people in Britain got Mad Cow dease. I think given those numbers and howwide spread in Britain Mad Cow was, I think we are all safe as long as we dont eat cow brains or give it to tother cows. The only way you can get it from eating meat of a cow if it is the neverous teasue infects the meat.

	25-12-2003 08:57									#56
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There are actual concerns in all beef producing areas about mad cow. It really comes down to how the meat is harvested (is that the right word?) from the carcass. These rendering plants hang the cow up side down and they use specialized tools which seperate the meat from the bone. The problem is the scrape and cut to get every piece of meat. Some of this meet is near the spinal column or brain. That's a potential point of contamination.

Sure, the nice cuts of beef have less probability of getting brain tissue, but the scraps that go into bologna or dog food are at higher risk.

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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Who put that Korea reference in my quote? I'll kill the man who implied that I live in Korea!

He, he, he, yeah I saw your Nippon flag.

	25-12-2003 10:53									#58
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MAYBE WE SHOULDN"T FEED FARM ANIMALS THEIR OWN ****!?!?!?!?!?!?!

DUH

stupid ass farmers...

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	25-12-2003 19:51									#60
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Sava, there has been a ban in place on that since 1997. There isn't a whole lot we know about the disease. Some guys in GB think that it might have been the pesticide used to get rid of the warble flys.