12-01-2004 06:12									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker i got a question i am the master of lifting however, how do you guys keep your LOWER abs tight?

Sit ups mostly. Try doing them with your legs flat on the floor, and lifting your whole torso, not curling as per usual. With feet up is harder, as Asher says, but works the top of the abs mostly. Either way, they are mostly for the six-pack, ie the front of the abs. To work the core muscles, it's back exercises. Either try pilates, or simply sit on a seat and draw a large figure of 8 with your body.

	12-01-2004 06:12									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Whaleboy Couldn't have put it better myself! I'm rather enjoying these pictures Asher

I was going to use another picture for Boxers, it's the same guy but he's wearing some kind of semi-transparent boxers. But I don't need a banning right now.

	12-01-2004 06:13									#33
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And as to the thread title, boxers.

Including the three pairs of silk boxers my girlfriend's bought for me.

Sooooooooooooooo decadent.

	12-01-2004 06:16									#34
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Including the three pairs of silk boxers my girlfriend's bought for me. Sooooooooooooooo decadent.

It's where softness is needed most

	12-01-2004 06:19									#35
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thanks for the tips guys

i will try it out those routines and see how it goes

my upper abs are really strong as is the rest of my body and you can see 4 of them on lifting days

then there is the lower part that looks like a pot belly and it's like somebody else's body is attached to mine!!!

what kind of reps are you guys using, do you just add a rep each day or? also do you train abs every day? 3 times a week? do you do all 3 excercises every day you work abs?

	12-01-2004 06:21									#36
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I can easily see all six of my abs and I haven't done a sit up in 2 years.

	12-01-2004 06:22									#37
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I did about 5 sets of 60 every day for 3 years and they appear to be permanent now.

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By the way, slow movement while breathing out during lift is most important. With proper breathing/contraction you can start feeling the burn rather quickly (within the first 20)

If you do them fast and without breathing you can do situps all day and not feel it.

	12-01-2004 06:25									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Whaleboy Asher, I want your underwear

sig material

	12-01-2004 06:27									#40
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thanks man for the breathing tip

it's really cool how when you lift certain muscles are permanent on your body

i've neglected my abs for years so need to start paying attention to them

i've always done like squats and deadlifts and stuff like that...

	12-01-2004 06:27									#41
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse I can easily see all six of my abs and I haven't done a sit up in 2 years.

Mine too, I've always had some natural definition. But it looks even better with situps.

Ted: I do about 5 sets of 30 every day, though I do the first 3 when I start my routine and the last 2 near the end.

	12-01-2004 11:16									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Whaleboy I'm rather enjoying these pictures Asher

I didn't see that the first time, you sneaky-edit-bastard.

Since when were you gay? Didn't you use Linux?

	12-01-2004 13:23									#43
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Boxers...
And stop with those pics. The folks at work are starting to gossip.....

	12-01-2004 14:02									#44
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I mostly use the Swedish Army boxers, aquired from the army surplus store at 2€ each. Comfortable, durable and cheap

(But you can't really say sexy)

	12-01-2004 22:35									#45
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Eew.

	12-01-2004 23:30									#46
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Boxers for me, or commando. When it's humid, I have to wear boxers, but I prefer to go without.

BTW, sit-ups are bad for your back. You should do crunches instead.

	12-01-2004 23:53									#47
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse I can easily see all six of my abs and I haven't done a sit up in 2 years.

Maybe if you did some you could see all eight.

	12-01-2004 23:56									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Whaleboy Asher, I want your underwear

Asher: that's definite sig material.

	13-01-2004 00:22									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Since when were you gay? Didn't you use Linux?

He's bi. He said it in a gay thread a while ago, IIRC.

	13-01-2004 00:25									#50
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH Maybe if you did some you could see all eight.

Technically, it's all one muscle. There are 10 possible visable bumps, but the top two are partially covered by the ribcage, and the bottom two are shaped differently, and are usually to low to be visible in anyone but professional bodybuilders. It's commonly refered to as a 6-pack because that's all that should be visible on a healthy person. If you can see 8 then you almost certainly ahve too little fat, below the guideline 10-15% being optimal for a male. Most bodybuilders/professional sportsmen are too low for health reasons, but it's not considered that serious unless it gets below 5%, which few people get to.

	13-01-2004 01:56									#51
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Thats true. There are in fact ten but I've never seen more than 8. The bottom 4 look more like 2 long ones.

As to whether that's too little fat. You can see eight on the model on the previous page.

Boris, does he have too little fat?

	13-01-2004 02:33									#52
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I meant in terms of health. Less than 10% fat does compromise health. The only people in danger are sportsmen who are very low, like some sprinters and bodybuilders who are around 3%, but it is supposed to be unhealthy havign too little.

	13-01-2004 04:51									#53
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH Maybe if you did some you could see all eight.

I know those last two are there, but deep down I believe they're a myth.

	13-01-2004 05:00									#54
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boxers and occasionally boxer briefs

	13-01-2004 06:01									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Since when were you gay? Didn't you use Linux?

Actually THIS is good sig material.

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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Asher: that's definite sig material.

Beat you to it

	13-01-2004 07:18									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker i got a question i am the master of lifting however, how do you guys keep your LOWER abs tight?

Leg lifts, as KH mentioned. You can either use one of those contraptions where prop yourself up on your elbows and lift your legs up, or simply lie on your back on a bench while I gently mass...er, um, I mean, and lift your legs up. Be sure to get your hips off the bench when your legs are up.

Another thing you can do is to raise your legs while doing basic crunches. This will work your lower abs more than the upper.

If you have an exercise ball, you can use that for general core strength improvement. Having to balance yourself on the ball while doing crunches really works a lot of different muscle groups, even your lower back.

Just say no to ab rollers and the like.

Oh, and I wear either boxers or boxer-briefs. I rarely wear briefs, for sporting purposes.

	13-01-2004 08:19									#58
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Leg lifts are supposed to do the trick.

Do vee ups and inverted vee ups (from your stomach).

	13-01-2004 09:02									#59
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thanks drogue, asher, krazyhorse, Boris, Sikander and anybody else I forgot to mention

hey, okay, one more question if you guys feel like answering.

Do you do anything for your obliques? or do the situps take care of it? this is like a serious problem area that is hard to tighten up...

	13-01-2004 09:10									#60
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Obliques? AFAIK, the best way is to lay on your back, put your feet in the air, and move them as far as you can from side to side?