23-01-2004 15:29									#31
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The thread starter did not give three variables to judge by. Stinger's chosen ones seem arbitrarily picked merely just to back him up.

	23-01-2004 15:29									#32
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The point I beleive of the question was whether the reasons that make Texas different to teh rest of the US are applicable to regions of other countries. IMO those reasons do not fit Wales, NI or Scotland.

	23-01-2004 15:31									#33
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maybe England is UK's Texas?

	23-01-2004 15:32									#34
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Well I thought Texas was similar to Wales based on..

i) a bit wilder
ii) a history of separatism
iii) totally different way of speaking
iv) different politics
v) claims to independence

	23-01-2004 15:37									#35
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Scotland because of PA's things:

i) a bit wilder
ii) a history of separatism
iii) totally different way of speaking
iv) different politics
v) claims to independence

but also

vi) loads of oil.

	23-01-2004 15:38									#36
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Scotland doesn't have loads of oil... North Sea oil runs through Shetland.

	23-01-2004 15:39									#37
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And all those work for NI, which has a stronger claim and desire for independance than the others.

	23-01-2004 15:41									#38
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COnclusion: the UK has three Texases.

	23-01-2004 15:42									#39
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"NI, which has a stronger claim and desire for independance than the others."

Bollocks!

	23-01-2004 15:47									#40
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More people in NI want indepence than in scotland or Wales

	23-01-2004 15:48									#41
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PA: How so? It's the only one that has violence over it, it's had an assembly for longer than Wales or Scotland (IIRC) and some of it's major parties advocate independance (sure, there's one in Wales and one in Scotland, but not the votes like there are in NI for them). Does Wales or Scotland want to break away? Not in the same numbers that NI wants to. Also the Irish Sea in between, the fact it's not connected, does help the practicalities of independance.

	23-01-2004 15:50									#42
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I'd much rather have no texases than three!

	23-01-2004 15:52									#43
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quote: NI, which has a stronger claim and desire for independance than the others....It's the only one that has violence over it

Unconnected reasons. And there is plenty of anti-English violence I've witnessed.

quote: Does Wales or Scotland want to break away?

For sure.

quote: Also the Irish Sea in between, the fact it's not connected, does help the practicalities of independance.

Does NI have a different language?

	23-01-2004 16:00									#44
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A large majority in wales and Scotland do not want independence from the UK, the majority in NI is much smaller.

	23-01-2004 16:08									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue Unconnected reasons. And there is plenty of anti-English violence I've witnessed. Not on the same scale at all. [QUOTE] Originally posted by Park Avenue Does NI have a different language?

Yes: Irish/Gaeilge.

	23-01-2004 16:31									#46
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And how often is it used.

	23-01-2004 16:36									#47
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A lot more often than Gaelic in Scotland. Probably less so than Welsh, but I'm not sure how common Welsh usage is. If two Welsh people are talking, what's the chances of them using Welsh? It is in a few regions it's common, or over the whole country?

	23-01-2004 16:38									#48
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Depends where you are. In north and west wales it's very likely they'll speak welsh.

	23-01-2004 16:40									#49
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I never hear it on campus except before examinations, but all the time when down in the town. All road markings and street signs are bilingual.

	23-01-2004 16:41									#50
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Friend of mines brother went to Aber to study linguistics and learnt Welsh whilst he was there to make life easier.

	23-01-2004 16:47									#51
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quote: Friend of mines brother went to Aber to study linguistics and learnt Welsh whilst he was there to make life easier.

I know I'm arguing the opposite case, but in this town it isn't really necessary for an individual to speak Welsh.

Quite regularly though, business/banks which fail to provide Welsh "translations" for their customers get vandalised by Welsh nationalists.

Another feature is the "reclaiming the streets" that the local teenagers do whenever term-time finishes and students go home. Three Saturdays a year...

	23-01-2004 16:49									#52
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Fact is, you could probably pick any spot in the UK and compare it to Texas (full of self satisfaction).

It's almost impossible to find 2 areas that have any kind of time or respect for each other.

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PA: Not necessary but he found he got on a lot better with the locals and it made life easier. Plus he's a linguist and finds learning languages easy to it was good for him.

	23-01-2004 16:51									#54
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We seem to have a stronger north-south divide as well. Well, draw a line from King's Lynn to Bristol and there you have it.

	23-01-2004 17:21									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor It is difficult to find an equivalent to Textas in France... Let's see, we are looking for an area that is: - obnoxious - wealthy - believes it's a separate country - fiercely conservative

Not just picking on you Spiffor, but where some of you get the obnoxisous from? Sure some Texans aren't the easiest to get along with when you disagree with them but I don't find them any more obnoxious than other folks in the US or the people I have known from other countries. They just speak their minds and don't just follow things. Don't get me wrong, I'm an Arkie who loves to pick on Texans whenever i can but some of the best people I know have come from Texas.

	23-01-2004 17:31									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I'm a sexy Joe Clark with a tad bit more brain.

	23-01-2004 17:33									#57
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Sprayber:
I took "obnoxious" as in the meaning they feel superior and cannot help but reminding their Texan / Bavarian / Corsican / Lapplandian / whatever origin at each and every occasion.

	23-01-2004 19:37									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Slowwwhand and George W. Bush's fame/infamy have given most of the world what kind of a place Texas is. Now, does every country have such a place, and what are they like?

What's this supposed to mean, Assface?
A solicitation for me to kick you to the curb?
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	23-01-2004 20:01									#59
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What are the characteristics of Texas so we can make an informed guess?

	23-01-2004 20:06									#60
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Big and empty, and that's just the heads of the people who live there.