21-07-2004 13:25									#721
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quote: Originally posted by Dimytes Awesome that means I will get turns in my challenge with you every day now? ©2004 Dimytes

it means you will get turns often enough to get our match done before i need 3 hours to play any of my other turns.

	21-07-2004 13:58									#722
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician **(it means you will get turns often enough to get our match done before)** i need 3 hours to play any of my other turns.

3 hours for a turn I am seldom using more than 2 minutes (up to 15-20 minutes in the late game, when it goes high and I am in a hot war).

Maybe that explains why I am placed as number 10 and you higher up

	21-07-2004 14:07									#723
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quote: Originally posted by TheBirdMan 3 hours for a turn I am seldom using more than 2 minutes (up to 15-20 minutes in the late game, when it goes high and I am in a hot war).

if you like i will send you a turn of this game (turn 206, early Diamond Age)

quote: Originally posted by TheBirdMan Maybe that explains why I am placed as number 10 and you higher up

you mean because im better or because my losses take longer ?

	21-07-2004 14:14									#724
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how many people here are playing PBEM games these times ?

	21-07-2004 14:18									#725
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in this thread ? i would say all that have at least one game (win or loss) entered for the ladder. except for a few quiet ones (David - to be expected back some time, Mieciofok - probably not to be expected back)

	21-07-2004 14:25									#726
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i'm playing a pbem game now but it's quite long ... interesting to practice the vertue of patience !!!

but i wonder if i could play another 1 or 2 PBEM game ... is there someone(s) who have time to begin a play or a game which begins soon ???

hum ...

	21-07-2004 14:31									#727
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hmm havent heard from blackice for a while about our upcoming challenge game. if he changed his mind i might have time for one.

	21-07-2004 14:31									#728
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician if you like i will send you a turn of this game (turn 206, early Diamond Age)

No thanks - I have 20 running games right now... and am lazy moderator on 2 more.

quote: you mean because im better or because my losses take longer ?

Both I guess.

	21-07-2004 15:19									#729
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician hmm havent heard from blackice for a while about our upcoming challenge game. if he changed his mind i might have time for one.

cool ... thanx mathemagician and if birdman doesn't want this turn 206, could you send it to me please ? i'll be really interested in ! i never saw other CTP players games ...

	21-07-2004 16:29									#730
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quote: Originally posted by blackgryffin i'm playing a pbem game now but it's quite long ... interesting to practice the vertue of patience !!! but i wonder if i could play another 1 or 2 PBEM game ... is there someone(s) who have time to begin a play or a game which begins soon ??? hum ...

Blackygryffin we could start an ocean game to go as perhaps Seafood Buffet against our ongoing buffet game?

Let me know..and I'll start it up..

Just asking....

	21-07-2004 17:35									#731
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with pleasure grandpa !!! i love oceans

i can play any game you want

seafood seems to be an excellent name !


mathemagician : unable to read your CTP document got a message error : unable to read same game file - load game error ( + a number of alpha digits )

too sad !

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	21-07-2004 19:43									#732
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Ok slap another challenge match up and the thread is here for SEAFOOD LOVERS BUFFET

Happy trawling from Tug Boat Troll

	21-07-2004 19:57									#733
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quote: Originally posted by blackgryffin mathemagician : unable to read your CTP document got a message error : unable to read same game file - load game error ( + a number of alpha digits ) too sad !

tried a reboot of your PC ?
the game has a couple of SLIC modifications, but these should all be included in the save game file, so no compatibility problems. are you using CTP 1.2 ?

	21-07-2004 20:39									#734
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lololololololololololol

in fact i got a macintosh osX and ... lolololol ... so i don't have to reboot the pc
yes i play CTP 1.2 but if you have some mods or some slic files changes, normal i can't open it

i have to get the same slic files changes to open it ... hélas !

by the way ... i'm looking for to change some txt and slic file for a function i saw in the files of CTP1 but inactive in the game : give, exchange and demand a city ... do u think it's a big deal ??

	21-07-2004 20:47									#735
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quote: Originally posted by blackgryffin in fact i got a macintosh osX and ... lolololol ... so i don't have to reboot the pc

okay, should have said computer (i always think of PC as a computer, else i would say windows - ah whatever)
dont you mac guys reboot anything ?

quote: Originally posted by blackgryffin yes i play CTP 1.2 but if you have some mods or some slic files changes, normal i can't open it

is that a difference to a PC too ? normally (on a PC at least) slic file changes alone dont corrupt the file.

quote: Originally posted by blackgryffin by the way ... i'm looking for to change some txt and slic file for a function i saw in the files of CTP1 but inactive in the game : give, exchange and demand a city ... do u think it's a big deal ??

depends if it was actually implemented in the CTP source code. assuming it was, you should be able to just make a backup of your script.slc and incomment those functions that refer to city exchange. however, you would need to select that option inside the game somehow, since it is not part of the diplomatic screen. that could be much more complicated. better ask someone else...

	21-07-2004 21:02									#736
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician okay, should have said computer (i always think of PC as a computer, else i would say windows - ah whatever) dont you mac guys reboot anything ?

it depends ... on an osX, it's rare we reboot the computer ... it's an unix based os and u have only too reboot the software, like XP i suppose ...

quote: is that a difference to a PC too ? normally (on a PC at least) slic file changes alone dont corrupt the file.

i really don't know if it's a difference between mac and pc i have 3 different CTP installed ( 2 moded and 1 normal ) and i can't open the files of each game in a different one ...

quote: depends if it was actually implemented in the CTP source code. assuming it was, you should be able to just make a backup of your script.slc and incomment those functions that refer to city exchange. however, you would need to select that option inside the game somehow, since it is not part of the diplomatic screen. that could be much more complicated. better ask someone else...

yes ! you are right ! i noticed the biggest problem is the diplomacy screen ... in fact, i send an email to someone who made a mode with deep changes, included some screens but a long time ago now and never received an answer ... too bad ... it could be fun in a multiplayer game to access this diplomacy option !

	21-07-2004 21:07									#737
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indeed, that could be a nice feature !
let me know when you have more information on those additional screens or anything that goes beyond slic/text changes, will you ?

	21-07-2004 21:33									#738
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of course ! i wish so much to find somebody ( a programmer would be a dream ) who could explain what and how to change this already implemented feature !!!

	21-07-2004 21:38									#739
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so you need one CTP installation for every single variant of script.slc or other modification ?

	21-07-2004 21:39									#740
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Hatschy, blackice ?
any responses to the settings emails ?

	21-07-2004 21:49									#741
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yes ... and if it changes features of the game, even minor ones ...

i tried all the mods available for both pc and mac and i noticed i couldn't open the files of a different game ... sometimes, the files opened but later in the play, the game crashes ...

	21-07-2004 21:55									#742
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very strange. that means you'd probably need another installation for our game should we play one, right ?

why dont you just write batch files (if there is such a thing in macunix) to copy the respectively changed files into the CTP main folder and run the appropriate batch file before each game ?

	21-07-2004 22:18									#743
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in fact there is another problem i didn't explain ... my apologizes ...

CTP1 is a quite old game ans it runs under macos9 ... not os X native ...

when macos X arrived, it was a powerful os which drived too the old one : mac os9 and when i open CTP1, i run on the old os behind the X ...

so it's complicating a bit some files exchange between mac and pc ...

i know the big majority of files are similar betwwen mac and pc but i really think the application doesn't run the same ! so here we are ... i can't only batch some files and run the same application ... if fact it doesn't change many things to have 3 or 4 CTP in different folders ... of course, it would be better to ask to someone more qualified in CTP games on both platforms : he could explain better than i could, why exactly ...

if we play your mod : yes, i must have the txt and slic files u have modified and exchange them with the original ones

	22-07-2004 00:53									#745
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challenge match - Hatschy vs. Mathemagician - started.
that would be number 110 then

settings:

Deity, Raging Hordes
Gigantic Donut World
30% land
100% diversity
0% goods
50% other sliders
Ruins On

seats 6 (Me) and 8 (Hatschy)
Hatschy's "No AI" mod used, so only us two are left.

Pollution On
Bloodlust Off

All Wonders banned except Emancipation Act and Wormhole Sensor.

Mathemagician of the Dornheimer versus Hatschy of the Canadians has been opened.

	22-07-2004 01:08									#746
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quote: Originally posted by blackice hatschy off course your an open target now and off course I challenged you some time back, up for another .

Ok then, blackice, just set up a new one and send me my turn . I'd like to play for the Welsh, leader Hatschy. If you want anything different than the standard, please tell me.

	23-07-2004 18:17									#747
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Blackice defeated ricketyclik (resigned) at turn 131. Game not listed, but began in May.

A sound whipping.

	23-07-2004 20:16									#748
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I got lucky is all Good game ricketyclik!

hatschy I'll email you some settings.

	23-07-2004 22:07									#749
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109. Chlg 109 Grandpa Troll vs. blackgryffin; Started Jul-2004 -- In progress.
110. Chlg 110 blackice def. ricketyclik; Finished Jul-2004.
111. Chlg 111 hatschy vs. Mathemagician; Started Jul-2004 -- In progress.

	24-07-2004 00:53									#750
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As GT said in an earlier post that apparently was overlooked:

108. Chlg 108 EPW def. Grandpa Troll; Finished Jul-2004

We started another game a few days too that needs to be added.