19-02-2004 04:57									#151
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Actually 5759, I lied.

	19-02-2004 06:36									#152
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quote: Originally posted by Spaced Cowboy Hey Asher, did you go with the stock CPU cooler...or?

No, I use the Zalman 750g pure copper one. It, too, is virtually noiseless. 20dB in silent mode, 25dB in full mode. It's always in silent for me, works fine...

	19-02-2004 06:42									#153
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The last time I ran 3DMark03 was in early october, and I got 6313 without the overclocked CPU and stuff.

	19-02-2004 16:06									#154
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The P4 and Athlon 64 are clearly superior in these tests, but lets not forget your chips cost about 2 and a half times what mine did.

	19-02-2004 19:06									#155
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quote: PCMark 2227 PCMarks CPU 2517,0 Memory 1608,0 Graphics 1862,0 HDD 3210,0

Auch...
Ok, did this on a normal PC (IE had a brouwser window open and some programs running in the background, bios is currently set at default (had some problems last week, and haven't bothered to re-set them))

	20-02-2004 01:05									#156
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Aieee, this thread is full of geeks!

	20-02-2004 01:11									#157
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And welcome, fellow geek PH!

Anyone got any idea on why my stock Radeon 9800 is so freakin slow? Asher???

	20-02-2004 01:25									#158
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quote: Originally posted by Zopperoni You should try Aquamark 3, PH. I just patched my Radeon 9500 to a Radeon 9700, and the result is astonishing: I jumped from a score of 21,135 to a score of 32,751. And it didn't cost a penny more.

37983 but I do have a lot of stuff running in the background too...I will try it again next time I reboot and don't have IE and trillian and connections and excel and whatever else running

	20-02-2004 03:24									#159
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quote: Originally posted by Spaced Cowboy And welcome, fellow geek PH! Anyone got any idea on why my stock Radeon 9800 is so freakin slow? Asher???

Only thing is drivers, which I'm sure you've checked. Plus my score for PCMark was with a slightly overclocked Radeon to 400/350 or thereabouts, so maybe try that.

I suppose you should also check your BIOS and make sure 8x is enabled, and check the other AGP settings haven't set themselves in a strange manner.

	20-02-2004 03:54									#160
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quote: Sideband Addressing......supported (disabled)

I got this result too, anyone what it is and to how to enable it and if I even should do so?

	20-02-2004 04:11									#161
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Btw if anyone cares I got the 74GB Raptor in the end. I figure it'll last a while, and I can get a second one at some point in the future when the prices come down a bit.

	20-02-2004 04:44									#162
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quote: Originally posted by alva quote: Sideband Addressing......supported (disabled) I got this result too, anyone what it is and to how to enable it and if I even should do so?

Don't enable it, it's unstable for both ATI and Nvidia.

Do enable AGP FastWrites, though.

	20-02-2004 19:07									#163
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It says my card does not support it. ( ATI 9600 PRO SAPHIRE)

	20-02-2004 20:39									#164
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Only thing is drivers, which I'm sure you've checked. Plus my score for PCMark was with a slightly overclocked Radeon to 400/350 or thereabouts, so maybe try that. I suppose you should also check your BIOS and make sure 8x is enabled, and check the other AGP settings haven't set themselves in a strange manner.

I've got the BIOS set for 8X APG with an arpeture size of 256. Are there APG settings in XP as well that need to be engaged (I found the 8x APG in XP but have found nothing on arpeture size in XP). The thing that bothers me the most is that a column in pc mark says my arpeture size is 0. I still have not look under the hardware tab...maybe it is there and still needs set-up

My mobo comes with a windows APG driver that says to install after the video driver??? (Do they mean XP video drivers, or Ati??)

I did this and I guess I can try reinstalling Cat 4.1 (now they have 4.2) drivers for the 9800.

The only other bios settings that I have for this are the voltage levels (for GPU and mem).

	20-02-2004 20:47									#165
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Btw if anyone cares I got the 74GB Raptor in the end. I figure it'll last a while, and I can get a second one at some point in the future when the prices come down a bit.

I think that you made a good choice...

Something new and better is always right around the corner, but I think that the Raptors will be competetive for quite sometime, espescially after RAIDed

	20-02-2004 20:49									#166
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SC,

I'm sure that you've checked already, but do you have it set for 8x and fastwrite in the ATI software as well?

	20-02-2004 21:13									#167
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Btw if anyone cares I got the 74GB Raptor in the end. I figure it'll last a while, and I can get a second one at some point in the future when the prices come down a bit.

That was my conclusion as well. Maybe if needed, I'll raid 0 these babies.

	20-02-2004 21:22									#168
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quote: Originally posted by centrifuge SC, I'm sure that you've checked already, but do you have it set for 8x and fastwrite in the ATI software as well?

Assuming you mean right click on screen, select properties, settings tab, advanced button, and then there is a tab (can't remember) that you set for apg 8x and fastwrite (both are set).

	20-02-2004 21:27									#169
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I don't know why PCMark would think your aperture size is 0. The BIOS setting should surely be 64 or 128 though right?

It was only 800 points difference between the scores......did you try a slight overclock to see if you could close it?

	20-02-2004 21:33									#170
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No I set it in the bios at 256 (max), since it can be up to half your main mem size.

The stupid voltage setting in the bios are set to auto, what are the stock values? Maybe the stupid mobo is UV the video card?

	20-02-2004 21:52									#171
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Google it. If you still need it later I'll check mine.

	20-02-2004 21:52									#172
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code:

                             Fastwrites off                            fastwrites on
Transparent Windows	        565,1	Windows/s	                 400,5	Windows/s
Graphics Memory - 16 lines	1156,3	FPS	                          2184,7	FPS
Graphics Memory - 32 lines	571,6	FPS	                          2011,0	FPS
3D - Fill Rate Single Texturing	864,0	MTexels/s	                  861,1	MTexels/s
3D - Fill Rate Multitexturing	1468,3	MTexels/s	                  1473,2	MTexels/s
3D - Polygon Throughput Single Light	17,4	MTriangles/s	          17,2	MTriangles/s
3D - Polygon Throughput Multiple Lights	4,0	MTriangles/s              4,0	MTriangles/s

	20-02-2004 21:54									#173
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quote: Originally posted by Spaced Cowboy No I set it in the bios at 256 (max), since it can be up to half your main mem size. The stupid voltage setting in the bios are set to auto, what are the stock values? Maybe the stupid mobo is UV the video card?

Not syre if it should be so big...

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the stock values : 5.5 ?

	21-02-2004 00:20									#174
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It does look as if my procesor is the bottleneck.

Each change amount to a small improvement on CPU score and a larger one for my graphics.( without tweaking my GPU in any way)

	21-02-2004 02:09									#175
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Still can't find it, seems most folks are OC'ing with windows programs.