22-08-2000 20:38									#61
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Cool!!!

I'll set up the game and e-mail you the IP.

Carolus

	22-08-2000 20:51									#62
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Game is up and waiting, just sent you the IP.

Carolus

	23-08-2000 09:32									#63
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SF, please retry.

Carolus

	23-08-2000 09:33									#64
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161.53.3.245

Try to join,please
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	23-08-2000 09:34									#65
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frozen.......i'll reboot and retry

	23-08-2000 09:37									#66
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SF, neither CR nor I can join at that IP. Can you try again at CR's IP?

	23-08-2000 09:43									#67
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This simply doesn't working. Not a single byte of a game loaded so far.
Try again on IP i wrote above.

	23-08-2000 09:48									#68
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I keep getting "connection failed" at your IP. This effort seems to be doomed.

	23-08-2000 09:49									#69
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Can't join at that IP.

Try in a minute's time at my IP.

Carolus

	23-08-2000 09:50									#70
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Last number changed to 245 after my reboot.

	23-08-2000 09:52									#71
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Up and waiting.

Carolus

	23-08-2000 04:11									#72
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Phew, that was more than our fair share of tech trouble!

58 minutes of Internet hazzle, 2 minutes of "play"... Let's hope it's the other way around next time!

Carolus

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	23-08-2000 23:11									#73
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Once again, events conspire to prevent the continuation of this game . I have a business trip next week. I'll be back on September 5 (September 4 is a holiday in the U.S.). Then I'll be gone again the week of Sept. 11-15. Sigh.

On the bright side, I'm going to be sitting in Buffalo by lunchtime again on Monday, August 28, so we might be able to play then. Like last time, I should be available from 13:00 Apolyton time, providing my travel goes as planned (and the airlines don't bribe me to go through New York City for 350 gold) and I'm able to connect to the Internet.

	26-08-2000 07:13									#74
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Monday is good,usual time.

My vacation is almost over.
More good news...i'll have 2 weeks off,starting from monday (maybe 3).



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	28-08-2000 02:46									#75
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SF - I may not be there at the usual time on Monday. I'm scheduled to arrive at the airport at 10:55 Apolyton time; it's possible that I could make it to my hotel by 12:00, but I'm saying 13:00 to allow for delays. Last trip, I ended up taking a different flight and arriving at about 16:00. The flip side to all this uncertainity is that I should be able to play for 4-5 hours, or until one of you guys falls asleep .

	28-08-2000 03:03									#76
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Fine. 4-5 hours sounds well to me.
Good way to decrease that uncertainity you mentioned is to postpone a game for an hour or two.
I suggest we start about 20.00 CET.
What do you guys think?

	28-08-2000 03:04									#77
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Fine. 4-5 hours sounds well to me.
Good way to decrease that uncertainity you mentioned is to postpone a game for an hour or two.
I suggest we start about 20.00 CET.
What do you guys think?

	28-08-2000 16:53									#78
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4-5 hours? Now we're talking! [thumb's up smiley]

I'm in.

Carolus

	28-08-2000 17:03									#79
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BTW, I think 20.00 CET is 14.00 Apolyton time and if I understood Dave correctly he'll try to be on-line 13.00 Apolyton time.

So I'll be on-line from 13.00 Apolyton time too (= 19.00 CET).

Hope I got that down right.

Carolus

	29-08-2000 09:10									#80
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I'm here, on schedule. ICQ is warmed up and waiting...

	29-08-2000 02:12									#81
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A fun session; we played up to AD 600. So far this has been a warmonger's game, although no cities have changed hands (that I know of, that is). Everyone seems to be digging in, with de facto boundaries established on the main landmass.

Wonders built:

Vikings (Carolus Rex) Colossus, Great Library
Aztecs (SmartFart) Pyramids, Great Wall, Michaelangelo's Chapel
Americans (DaveV) Hanging Gardens, Sun Tzu's War Academy, Leonardo's Workshop, Lighthouse

Powergraph:

	29-08-2000 02:18									#82
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A fun session; we played up to AD 600. So far this has been a warmonger's game, although no cities have changed hands (that I know of, that is). Everyone seems to be digging in, with de facto boundaries established on the main landmass.

Wonders built:

Vikings (Carolus Rex) Colossus, Great Library
Aztecs (SmartFart) Pyramids, Great Wall, Michaelangelo's Chapel
Americans (DaveV) Hanging Gardens, Sun Tzu's War Academy, Leonardo's Workshop, Lighthouse

Powergraph:

	29-08-2000 04:26									#83
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A fun session; we made it to AD 600. I'd have to say this has been a warmonger's game so far, although no cities have changed hands (as far as I know). Wonders built:

Vikings (Carolus Rex) Colossus, Great Library
Aztecs (SmartFart) Pyramids, Great Wall, Michaelangelo's Chapel
Americans (DaveV) Hanging Gardens, Sun Tzu's War Academy, Leonardo's Workshop, Lighthouse

The powergraph:

	29-08-2000 12:46									#84
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Gee Dave, I didn't realize it was that much fun?

This is going to be a very difficult game for me, struggling to not fall too much behind.

Seems that the action is taking place somewhere else? Makes perfect sense, though. Who paid any attention to Andorra in world politics during the cold war?

Was researching Masonry, put taxes to max. Stole 4-5 techs hoping to get it and save the beakers for Engineering or even Invention. No such luck, now I'm going to swarm you guys with mighty warriors!

Carolus

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	01-09-2000 05:50									#85
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My long post vanished,so here is another one.

I made 2 fatal mistakes.

1st... i didn't realized Dave's ICS-ing until 4th session.

2nd... i let him have Lighthouse (this one sealed my fate).

With veteran triremes,production in my core cities was hopeless crippled by horde of diplomats. I could have Cope's next turn,but only place where it really could do some benefits was my capital and unfortunately for me,it was a coastal city. Cope's w/o library and uni isn't much.
I was pretty much shocked seeing CR picked 1st Colossus,then GL instead of Lighthouse,but again...my fault.
I should switch my MC into Lighthouse,but i didn't want to lose 150 shields just like that.
My last hope was that ocean left of me separate myself and CR. Wrong. There was a big island which Dave just started to colonize and on that point i decide to throw in the towel.

Excellent playing and congrats.

	01-09-2000 06:13									#86
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Yeah, Lighthouse was a key wonder for me - it was a lot easier to build vet triremes, instead of hoping I could win a sea battle for the STWA upgrade.

Better luck next time!

	01-09-2000 12:18									#87
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</font>Originally posted by SmartFart on 08-31-2000 08:50 PM
I was pretty much shocked seeing CR picked 1st Colossus,then GL instead of Lighthouse,but again...my fault.
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To build Lighthouse you need Map Making, to have Map Making you need to research it. I didn't. Why?

I raced for Leo's as my first wonder when HG, MC and GW were built, had 12 caravans ready. Only chance was stealing Masonry, Construction (which I did) and Engineering. I only got non-Leo techs, slowing down my research. The cure?

First, I decided to build Colossus to speed up my research although I wasn't happy about it with only size 1 and 2 cities. But with the extra 4 caravans and no Map Making I saw no alternative.

Second, the GL. Figured you were heading for LW as well and that there was extensive stealing going on on your part versus Dave.

That being said I must admit I thought from the early game that the Lighthouse wouldn't be important in this game (see post above about Viking Long Ships). In the game we started yesterday, however...

Carolus

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	01-09-2000 22:49									#88
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I thot this might be the case. I haven't established an embassy with you,so i didn't know anything about your tech tree. Don't get me wrong...i am not complaining. I just tried to resume my mistakes.
Since Dave grabbed STWA and me GW,i presumed you'll go after Lighthouse ASAP and dominate the seas.
I thot you've choosed religious path like me,because both Constructions and Engineering were white on Dave's tech info.
If i just had an embassy with you,i would definitelly switch my MC city into Lighthouse,especially when i stole trade from Dave.

Anyway.....i enjoyed myself
See you both on tuesday,18:00 CET

	02-09-2000 16:11									#89
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by SmartFart on 09-01-2000 01:49 PM</font>
Since Dave grabbed STWA and me GW,i presumed you'll go after Lighthouse ASAP and dominate the seas.
I thot you've choosed religious path like me,because both Constructions and Engineering were white on Dave's tech info.
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I would if I had realized there were some seas to dominate.

When you check with your own science advisor any techs in white means you've discovered them first. When you have established an embassy with another player the techs in white in his tech tree are the ones you don't have yourself. It doesn't mean that the player got them first, although in this particular case I'm pretty sure this was so.

Carolus

	04-09-2000 03:29									#90
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The mini-map at the end of the game (from cheat mode):