29-02-2004 04:09									#31
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Why waste time with diplomacy when you can just kill everyone? There can be only one.

	29-02-2004 04:46									#32
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If everyone declares me the winner, i'd be willing to start a new game.

	29-02-2004 04:57									#33
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woohoo an all out war.. interesting

	29-02-2004 05:48									#34
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quote: Originally posted by markusf If everyone declares me the winner, i'd be willing to start a new game.

you're not the winner, buddy
In fact, you're doing quite pathetic for a five (or "whatever") tribe start. Buckle up.

	29-02-2004 05:49									#35
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quote: Originally posted by MalevolentLight Why waste time with diplomacy when you can just kill everyone? There can be only one.

Sean! Where have you been, muffdiver

	29-02-2004 05:57									#36
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the return of the king SEAN ....

	29-02-2004 06:48									#37
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quote: Originally posted by MalevolentLight Why waste time with diplomacy when you can just kill everyone? There can be only one.

It's not a diplo game.

But Markus got a great start and a good player with a great start is pretty unbeatable. But I think it's premature to declare a winner as Z says.

Let's give it a few more sessions. It forces Markus to make a few decisions.

DD, deity, Dreamer and warlon got very difficult starts. It sounds like Zylka is doing OK, he's number 2 in the pg.

DD and I share a small continent. He has 2/3rds yet I'm on top of his capital. Dreamer lost his cap to barbs and warlon is being bullied by the maestro He says he wants to quit but I urge him to play on a bit. This will allow his inclusion in the next game...

	29-02-2004 07:24									#38
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dude I have a cont that looks like someone took a s* the day after eating a Vietnamese sub with hot peppers. Markus; with a minimum two tribes and two none setts (this combo actually being equal to or even BETTER than 5 tribes in 1x) holds a marginal lead - and now reveals panic via "everyone tell me I'm the winner so I don't have to stress about performing"

Quite frankly, I'm dissapointed.

	01-03-2004 23:46									#39
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I think the game is closer after the 2nd session then it was after the 1st. That beng the case, I'm for continuing.

	02-03-2004 07:13									#40
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Oh of course! And it will get closer still, aided by Markus' "performance anxiety". It aint over till the fat lady sings...

	02-03-2004 23:17									#41
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I would play some civ again if you guys got some 2v2's going or even 3v3.

	04-03-2004 06:14									#42
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Talk to DylanBaker. He's been looking for that a lot lately and hangs with some class 2x brutes to face off with

	04-03-2004 06:54									#43
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I wouldn't mind a 3v3 in this slot after we finish this one.

We need to assess all of us as players and get an even match going.

Maybe

Eyes/deity/DD/
v.
Markus/Zylka/Cyber
?

	04-03-2004 06:55									#44
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AS long as it's 1x1x.

	04-03-2004 21:56									#45
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3 v 3 might be interesting to try althoug i dont think eyes would be interested in a 1x1x game and im not much for 2x2x

	04-03-2004 21:57									#46
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BTW - eveyone on for tonite, normal time?

	05-03-2004 00:32									#47
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let's try to be there early

	05-03-2004 00:42									#48
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Like last week?

OK, Ill give it try again and be there an hour early. For some reason I doubt everyone else will.

	05-03-2004 01:33									#49
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Actually i have plyaed many many 1x1x duels and i would play 1x1x but it must be on king level. Deity 1x1x is just stupid.

	05-03-2004 02:34									#50
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2x movement is stupid, but 1x1x duels are f*ing ridiculous. Waste of time, at best. DD, when do we start, anyway

	05-03-2004 03:16									#51
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2x movement is the best you just suck at it.

	05-03-2004 03:54									#52
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I definitely do, and would honestly name you the 2x king. At the same time; you couldn't even **** your way out of that self inflated bubble with 1x. Even Markus can slaughter you in such.

	05-03-2004 05:21									#53
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Everyone here early once again... oh, except for Deity. Any chance you get here an hour earlier from now on?

	05-03-2004 05:31									#54
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funny you should mention markus since he is like 1-6 in 1x1x duels and the only game he won was on deity because i got too many cities so i had too much corruption. Amazing how a difficulty level penalizes you for doing too well.

	05-03-2004 05:46									#55
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It doesn't penalize you. It may slow your exponential expansion down; but the other player gets the same sh* when they reach such a point.

	05-03-2004 11:45									#56
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Sorry, I had modem troubles.

Thanks for ringing me up before starting though cyber!

You also sound quite cultured on the phone, just like Raz

	05-03-2004 11:46									#57
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I'd still like to play in a game with Eyes though, now that he's grown up

jj

	05-03-2004 22:42									#58
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Actually it is better to expand slower on deity and if you get advanced tribes that are far away and you get too many of them the game is basically over because those cities are useless and all it does is raise the riot factor on the cities you do have that are useful. Add in someone starting with 4 whales within 3 squares of their capital and you aren't going to get HG and anyone who says HG on deity isn't that great is ****ing stupid I have never lost a game where I got HG on Deity. So Deity forces you to play at a lower level lest you be destroyed by the settings...that's some real skill.

	06-03-2004 04:04									#59
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That's true. An early sprawl is worth little in such settings; it's all about the core. You can have a good %30 more cities than your opponent even in 2x deity and still get nailed if you haven't maintained a proper center

in any case, Deity is doing fine in this game with his regular weirdo strat chosen. Wrong thing to use, but he at least uses it right.

	06-03-2004 06:15									#60
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I reckon we owe warlon a BIG CONGRATULATIONS!

Recently I was thinking he was another loser/quitter who bowed out when things went wrong but with a bit of encouragement he turned it round and now is a respected player.

He lost this game and retired with our support when left with only two cities = civ crumbled.

But the point is he played it out with attitude (even killing my vet tri with diplos on board) and with a bit of fun in the end - "... we will never surrender"

Not many players stay on to this bitter end; even many great players either quit or concede often ruining the game when faced with annhilation.

BUT warlon played on, within the rules and the game can still continue without him quite successfully because of his commitment and fairness.

warlon, I look forward to playing you in the next game. Keep this slot free!