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DaShi
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The Taste of Japan
Sep 2000
time: 05:34
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Ming, how is a poster to know what threads are not acceptable unless the mods make consistent actions against them? For example, there could be a thread that states religion sucks, and even have posts calling for its closure within, but ignored by the mods. While at the same time another thread could say . . .oh. . .China sucks and please closed rather quickly.
Does it depend on the mood of the mod? Should we just look at which mod is avaiable and post our threads accordingly?
What if the current mod supports an offensive thread like the clear examples above? Do we all have to sit around reading why a particular group, maybe the Japanese, are terrible just because a mod doesn't like them?
Sure, you could ignore it. But you can't ignore thread titles. I don't think anyone wants to come here to see a thread biasly trashing what they are or what they believe in in such a crude manner. If the policy is to just ignore it, then why do we have mods at all?
What standards do the mods have? I would hope that they at least are expected to follow the decorum required of the posters here.
I love to have some fun as much as the next poster, but I believe that there is a line for both posters and mods. When posters cross that line, the appropriate mod action is usually taken. However, when mods do, it is quite unsettling because the posters are left to feel helpless against actions. A bigoted mod can destroy a community (look at what happened to Sidgames). Can Markos really afford the loss of traffic, if the OT was to collapse?
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Ming
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Originally posted by DaShi
Ming, how is a poster to know what threads are not acceptable unless the mods make consistent actions against them?
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We do "try" to be consistent... granted, it is difficult considering "opinion" comes into play and different mods are involved... but we give it our best shot, and I feel we are doing a good job of it.
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For example, there could be a thread that states religion sucks, and even have posts calling for its closure within, but ignored by the mods. While at the same time another thread could say . . .oh. . .China sucks and please closed rather quickly.
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First, you are assuming that the mods read every post in every thread... we don't and can't. Many times, it is the complaint feature that brings us on the scene. While you may think something is being ignored, it may simply be that we aren't aware of it. On the other hand, in your China example... wasn't the title something like China sucks... something that was hard to miss... it's no surprise it lasted about a minute 
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Does it depend on the mood of the mod? Should we just look at which mod is avaiable and post our threads accordingly?
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While I can speak only for myself, I try to stay consistent no matter what mood I'm in... As far as looking to see which mod is available so that you can post accordingly, I have to chuckle. If you break the rules, you will have problems. Every mod handles things in their own ways... but it still comes down the fact that somebody broke the rules...
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What if the current mod supports an offensive thread like the clear examples above? Do we all have to sit around reading why a particular group, maybe the Japanese, are terrible just because a mod doesn't like them?
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First... your example above doesn't prove your point that mods suport offensive threads... and is not a "clear" example.
Second... I haven't seen any situations where mods do as you suggest...
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Sure, you could ignore it. But you can't ignore thread titles. I don't think anyone wants to come here to see a thread biasly trashing what they are or what they believe in in such a crude manner. If the policy is to just ignore it, then why do we have mods at all?
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Your China sucks thread is a classic example that we delete that kind of stuff real quick when somebody is stupid enough to make a thread title like that... Similar thread titles lead to similar action.
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What standards do the mods have? I would hope that they at least are expected to follow the decorum required of the posters here.
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Mod's have to live to higher standard than posters... and we answer to the owners. And as has been seen in the past, we also get punished when we break site rules... If you have a complaint about a mod... just contact the owners via PM.
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I love to have some fun as much as the next poster, but I believe that there is a line for both posters and mods. When posters cross that line, the appropriate mod action is usually taken. However, when mods do, it is quite unsettling because the posters are left to feel helpless against actions.
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Their punishment is usually no more "unsettling" than the problems they caused other posters by their violations. Action is taken because somebody did break the rules. While the poster sometimes disagrees that they did a break a rule (and sometimes whines like a stuck pig) it's the mods call to make.... this isn't a democracy... and again, if you have a problem, you can take it up with the owners by PM.
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A bigoted mod can destroy a community (look at what happened to Sidgames).
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Yeah... a bigoted mod can destroy a community... it's good that we don't have any at Apolyton.
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Can Markos really afford the loss of traffic, if the OT was to collapse?
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One... I don't see how the OT could collapse... But second, this is a gaming site first. The OT has been provided as a "service" to the members. I don't think that it would come as any surprise to people if I state that the OT isn't a high priority to the owners. They are more concerned about the on topic stuff... as it should be.
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Barinthus
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A Magical Moment...
Jan 2004
time: 21:34
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Originally posted by PLATO
I think that even more important is to be fair. Every Mod has a different personality and "consistency" would be next to impossible. Fairness in enforcing the rules, OTOH can be applied by all Mods while being consistent within their own styles.
Anyone who has been posting here for any length of time should be well aware of each Mod's personality. Some responsibility must rest on the poster. |
Agreed. In other words, don't do anything that'd attract a Mod's attention.
It's like driving. If you tend to speed all the time, a police officer is bound to pull you over eventually. Some officers are more likely to give you a ticket while others are more likely to give you a warning.
Last edited by Barinthus on 26-02-2004 at 10:42
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DaShi
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The Taste of Japan
Sep 2000
time: 05:34
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Originally posted by Ming
First, you are assuming that the mods read every post in every thread... we don't and can't. Many times, it is the complaint feature that brings us on the scene. While you may think something is being ignored, it may simply be that we aren't aware of it. On the other hand, in your China example... wasn't the title something like China sucks... something that was hard to miss... it's no surprise it lasted about a minute
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Actually, sitting right next to the "China sucks" thread was a thread with "religion sucks" sucks in the title. Most of the posts in that thread were spam or pleas for it to be closed. But it was ignored for some time. Yet, the China thread was homed in on. A lot more people expressed their disatisfaction with the religion thread than the China thread, which was seen as a stupid joke. Of course, the religion thread was left around longer so that it was able to offend more people. It gives the impression that the mod on duty, who is known for being pro-China and for trying to belittle those who believe in their religions, choose to leave an offensive thread simply because he agreed with it.
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