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To me, the problem isn't so much the ad, but the hypocrisy. For some reason you guys running the show take the extra steps to censor profanity and delete and threads with sexual connotation, but have no problems showing ads with half naked women.
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</font>an additional note: a user survey last summer showed that the BIG majority of your visitors are adults, while the percentage of visitors under the age of 10 was 0(zero that is).
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OK, then why are swear words censored? I'm sure all of your adult users have heard them before. Are you concerned with the younger users? If that's the case then why are you showing the saucy ads?
IMO, you should either stop showing the ads, or loosen your standards regarding censoring
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"This will be of fine service for you, you bag of the scum. I am sure you will not mind that I remove your manhoods and leave them out on the dessert flour for your aunts to eat."
"Yah-hah, evil spider woman! I have captured you by the short rabbits and can now deliver you violently to your gynecologist for a thorough extermination."
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Havoc on 03-26-2000 01:25 PM</font>
OK, then why are swear words censored? I'm sure all of your adult users have heard them before. Are you concerned with the younger users? If that's the case then why are you showing the saucy ads?
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>first of all, there is a big difference. the censoring of certain words is in our direct and full control. the ads we show is not.
beyond that, the censoring of words is done for two reasons:
1) purely an aesthetic choice(we and lots of our visitors prefer not to see such language)
2) younger audience(if one child doesnt learn one word from this forum instead of the real world, the censoring has worked imho)
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a raving alcoholic drama queen with a penchant for the biosciences
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by adaMada on 03-26-2000 05:17 PM</font>
Would starchild and goofydrew please <u>grow up</u>? I know this may be difficult for them, but some of us <u>do</u> take this topic seriously, and I find the levity they bring into this string <u>grossly</u> insulting.
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Well sorry, but sometimes a little humour is what is needed to keep everyone calm.
On second though, I'm going to be a ***** tonight. I withdraw the smilie in my post. I'm dead serious about it now. I'm sick of being ignored by advertisers and companies. Open, out-of-the-closet, for all the world to see, Gays are, on average, more wealthy and more loyal to the companies that serve them. Yet we are pushed to the sidelines again and again. Well, I'm sick of it. I'm tired of having to view semi-naked women that I did not request to see nor desire to see. There are plenty of gay-friendly NetAds, from PlanetOut Visas to Ashford.com. Why aren't they displayed here?They are far less degrading than a lot of the ads I've seen here.
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"Apolyton doesn't choose the ads that are displayed. If you really care, go complain to ugo.
Thank you for saying it again, Narck. This is exactly the main point we have been trying to get across here all along.
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i know, mada. humour is a good thing. by the way, starchild, don't take mada personally he's a liitle sideways in the head sometimes, and gets carried away.  I would know (he goes to my school) He practically has no sense of humour for these kinds of things, and probably didn't even know you were joking. But seriously, everybody who posts here still complaining about the banners, listen to the administrators! For crissakes (can i say that?) how many times do they have to tell you that they have absolutely no control over the topic.
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First thing first; I apologize, Starchild. I was generally upset about the contents of this forum, and my post was just as much responding to goofydrew's comments as yours. I understand that you were just trying to bring some humor into a generally humorless topic, and retract what I said in leu of some of your later posts.
I would also like to say this now; DanQ and MarkG, you both are great guys, and I understand how hard you try to keep this site together. (With this in mind) I understand your arguments, but I continue to believe that more can be done by apolyton to help solve this problem. If we all (the users, the admins., etc) make a fuss over the issue, then the UGO can't help but to change its adds. Customer opinion is <u>everything</u> to advertising firms, because it has to be.
I understand that this is MarkG and DanQ's site, and they have the final say. I also believe, however, that this problem can be fixed, if we all put our hearts into it. We can't just say collectively 'Well, we can't fix it, so it's not our problem'. Rather, it makes it all the more our problem.
Again, I apologize to Starchild, for the comments that I made after jumping to conclusions.  .
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by MarkG on 03-26-2000 01:39 PM</font>
...the censoring of words is done for two reasons:
1) purely an aesthetic choice(we and lots of our visitors prefer not to see such language)
2) younger audience(if one child doesnt learn one word from this forum instead of the real world, the censoring has worked imho)
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Mark, did you not just say there are ZERO under ten people viewing this site? If so, you exactly are you afraid of seeing the swear words? Anyone who is viewing this site has most likely come across those words at some point in their life.
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"This will be of fine service for you, you bag of the scum. I am sure you will not mind that I remove your manhoods and leave them out on the dessert flour for your aunts to eat."
"Yah-hah, evil spider woman! I have captured you by the short rabbits and can now deliver you violently to your gynecologist for a thorough extermination."
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Havoc (edited March 28, 2000).]</font>
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Havoc on 03-28-2000 10:31 PM</font>
Anyone who is viewing this site has most likely come across those words at some point in their life.
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mada- wazzup with the triple smile you've got to have a quintuple smilie like this:
I haven't seen the x-banners in a while either  
no, actually, i haven't seen the banners either. good work, admins. By the way, on the topic of sware words, i think i can take the title of being the youngest poster here (bows, bows, waits for appluase. doesn't come, cntinues grudgingly) i agree with ghen, whether he was kidding or not, about the f-word, i don't actually mind it, but probably some people do, and the admins have right in not wanting to see it on the page, but i at least think the less-'offensive' words should be allowed (ie. he double hockey sticks, if it isn't already allowed, and the d word) they can be used for emphasis
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Thue
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hmm; I had a picture from an apolyton add an saved it, but when I looked at what I had saved it had changed!?
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