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Mar 2001 time: 14:34
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TurnChat / Senate Session 30 Part I
* Jonny1 has joined #civ3dem
Jonny1: hello President
Paddy: Hi Jonny
Paddy: how is your weekend going?
* Nimitz has joined #civ3dem
Nimitz: hey all
Jonny1: hello
Paddy: Jonny, please accept my apologises
Paddy: I was wrong in my assesment of the Thors Sickle
Jonny1: that's okay
Paddy: have you been reading the threads today
Jonny1: yes
Paddy: cool
Paddy: we sure are at a great time
Jonny1: I hope we can get a lot done tonight
Nimitz: getting that city was lucky
Paddy: good
Paddy: we should
Paddy: look out Madrid 
Nimitz: I seem to be getting more posts these days
Paddy: hahahha
Paddy: you are quite active
Nimitz: you think any one else will be here
Paddy: have you been busy at school this week Jonny
Paddy: we are it
Paddy: shall we start
Nimitz: ok save loaded
Paddy: 12Jonny can you gives us an update on your War plans for the Capture of Madrid
Jonny1: well, in a nutshell, the plan is to attack right away, unless an investigation of Madrid gives us a
reason to delay the attack
Jonny1: our units will land 6 and 9 of Madrid, to prevent them from sending reinforcements by land
Paddy: I put a unit roster in "What do we need to take to Madrid? " thread
Paddy: we only have one sword available straight away
Paddy: there are several near by though
Nimitz: then we need to get in position
Paddy: I would like to drop the cat on thors sickle there, and take TS back to Beowulf as Jonny originally
wanteed
Jonny1: personally, I want to take the cat on Thor's Sickle to Jaen to help weaken the elite spear there
Paddy: ok
Paddy: 4Thors Sickle 1-1-4
Paddy: opps
Paddy: next turn
Jonny1: before we end turn...
Jonny1: I'd like to make some movements
Paddy: yes
Jonny1: 4Polo Club in RoV moves 6-9-9-9 to NA
Paddy: Jonny only one person gives the orders oold chap
Paddy: saves confusion
Paddy: so give the suggestion etc
Paddy: ok ???
Paddy: happy to do it
Jonny1: oops, sorry
Paddy: cool
Paddy: 4Polo Club in RoV moves 6-9-9-9 to NA
Jonny1: it's just that I've been doing it the last few times I've been around... 
Paddy: 4Polo Club sits
Paddy: yes... cool
Paddy: thanks for that
Paddy: good training for when you are President
Paddy: next term 
Jonny1: Road Warriors in Bifrost should move 8-9-9-9-9-9 to NA
Paddy: along with Raz, Duddha, Big Free and MR Nimitz 
Nimitz: Only if I don't run 
Paddy: 4Road Warriors in Bifrost should move 8-9-9-9-9-9 to NA sit
Jonny1: Sigur (spears) in Valhalla moves 9 onto The Big Free galley
Paddy: 4Sigur (spears) in Valhalla moves 9 onto The Big Free galley
Paddy: do you want the swords from Thor was here
Jonny1: I want to leave them there for happiness
Jonny1: but the 3 swords fortified 1 of Bifrost aren't doing anything right now
Jonny1: so we can use them
Paddy: no
Paddy: they were there as a retaliation force incase persia landed
Paddy: it has been suggested that we quickly swap spears and archers in NA for swoprds in other cities
Paddy: take a turn or 3
Paddy: we could 'Oct swords stack move 9-9-9'
Jonny1: let's do that
Paddy: 4Oct swords stack move 9-9-9
Jonny1: I seriously doubt that Persia will attack while the peace treaty is still in effect (13 turns remain)
Paddy: my error a river
Paddy: 4Oct swords stack move 9-9
Nimitz: oh well
Paddy: from NA 'horror sidon; big mouth and waldemar 1-1-1 ????
Paddy: 2 archers and a spear
Jonny1: yes, that's what I was looking at
Paddy: cool, to relieve Thor was ere???
Paddy: 4from NA 'horror sidon; big mouth and waldemar 1-1-1
Nimitz: done
Paddy: what about Forgotton warrior in FoG
Paddy: will you want him for Jean???
Paddy: NMaster is now in BFCity ready to hunt in Jean as well
Paddy: 4Rush build scout in Paddy Borg
Jonny1: yes... we will attack Jaen with Forgotten Warrior, NMaster, Eirick (in Beowolf), the cat on Thors
Sickle, and the archer in BFC (if needed)
Paddy: cool
Nimitz: ok
Jonny1: just noticed... from the Egyptians we can buy contact with Korea and Babylon in exchange for Contact
with the Aztecs and 229 gold
Paddy: hmmm, thanks for that info
Paddy: that strips our treasury of 2/3rds
Paddy: can we sit on that bit for now, or do you two want that
Jonny1: personally, I think we should take it now
Nimitz: wait and let me chaeck
Nimitz: ok we can
Nimitz: we could still investigate Mandrid
Jonny1: that only takes 100g, IIRC
Nimitz: ya
Paddy: yeah, but then we cannot rush the settler out west in 5 turns....
Paddy: that will cost 108 approx
Jonny1: i thought we were building a Scout over there first, though
Nimitz: no we couldn't not and ivestigate
Nimitz: it was rushed
Paddy: we did build the scout... just up above
Nimitz: just a little bit ago
Paddy: we want settler pumps over there asap
Jonny1: ok, missed that the first time
* Retrieving #civ3dem modes...
Paddy: cool
Paddy: so 3 itemms, can only afford two at this tinme
Nimitz: we got an egyption knight sitting just out side of Togas Town
Paddy: madrid, new contacts and settler
Paddy: yes he has been there awhile
Paddy: there is a pic in one of the sessions 
Jonny1: yep
Nimitz: lol
Jonny1: he's just loitering there
Nimitz: I wonder why
Paddy: any comments then
Paddy: on the 3 choices
Jonny1: anyway, I say we do Madrid and new contacts
Nimitz: I'd say the last two
Paddy: my opinion is that we leave the contacts till the other two are completed
Nimitz: Mandrid and Pump
Paddy: jonny???
Nimitz: that land could help us emencily
Paddy: yes it will be amazing for us
Jonny1: it will be greatly corrupt, and I don't feel that it is very urgent...
Jonny1: ...because there is no safe route for galleys from Persia/Egypt/Spain to get there
Paddy: fair enough Jonny, the settler is going to be a done deal
Paddy: there has been extensive talk all week about it
Paddy: we are here to serve the senate
Paddy: and there are two votes here for it
Paddy: so do you want a map of madrid now or when we are about to attack
Nimitz: well as long as there was no vote we could ignore them. J/K
Jonny1: let's wait until we're closer to the attack
Paddy: cool
Paddy: 12 time for a search of the cities yet again 
Nimitz: ohhh..................
Paddy: ???
Nimitz: the fact we must do it again
Paddy: hahahah
Paddy: at the end of every turn we must do it
Paddy: we be builders to
Nimitz: twice if the end of chat turn
Nimitz: which this one is
Paddy: right........ 
Nimitz: Valhalla
Paddy: so
Paddy: yes
Paddy: what in Valhalla?????
Nimitz: WF 7 to 4
Jonny1: yep
Paddy: 4valhalla WF 7 to 4
Paddy: cool
Paddy: we need that aquaduct
Paddy: 
Paddy: anything else chaps??
Jonny1: I'd also like to consider changing RoV from Horseman to Swordsman
Nimitz: why Does RoV have a perian in it
Jonny1: good question...
Paddy: that is a long story
Paddy: you would need to read the minutes ,,,,,
Paddy: ok
Nimitz: ok
Paddy: so why the swordsman ???
Paddy: 4changing RoV from Horseman to Swordsman
Jonny1: we need the greater attack ability
Paddy: almost 1 hour so far
Paddy: yes
Jonny1: and mobility is less of an issue when we're landing the troops adjacent to the city
Paddy: 4saving
Jonny1: swords can also better defend what they take
Paddy: 4end turn
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Mar 2001 time: 14:34
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TurnChat / Senate Session 29 Part II
Nimitz: Egypt building Adams
Jonny1: wow
Paddy: 4Thors Sickle 1-1-4
Paddy: shall we drop the cat off
Jonny1: yes
Paddy: 4cowpult 2
Nimitz: there amost to the industrial era
Paddy: 4Octs slave mine
Paddy: 4worker bee stack 2
Paddy: 4BigFree galley stack 9-9-8
Paddy: 4al gore worker stack mine
Paddy: 4bobs worker stack 1-1-1
Paddy: 4Faith hope and glory galley to fort
Paddy: 4Horror of sidon stck 1-1-1
Paddy: 4oct swords stack 8-9-9
Paddy: 4the Edge galley 6-3-3
Paddy: name for new scout = sharp eyes
Paddy: 4 name for new scout = sharp eyes
Paddy: 4sharp eyes 1-4
Paddy: 4Drinking Vessel galley 4-4-1
Paddy: 12 any thing else???
Nimitz: not that I know of
Jonny1: not that I see...
Paddy: 12 name for new scout = sharp eyes
Paddy: opps
Paddy: 1212 time for a search of the cities yet again 
Paddy: thats better
Paddy: 
Nimitz: what we do with Polo
Paddy: 4polo Club Fort
Paddy: 
Jonny1: and Road Warriors too
Paddy: 4 Road wrriors 2
Paddy: hahahaha
Paddy: it is all good
Nimitz: really
Paddy: I see nothing ewlse
Paddy: 4saving
Jonny1: we could trade with Egypt for contact with either the Babylonians or the Koreans and still have
enough money to do Madrid + settler
Paddy: such as???
Jonny1: contact with Babylonians for Contact with Aztecs + 85g
Jonny1: that leaves us with 260g
Nimitz: yes
Paddy: hmmm
Paddy: which one then
Paddy: Babylonians for me
Nimitz: no idea
Jonny1: my gut instinct says Babs for me
Paddy: ok
Paddy: 4propse deal with egypt
Paddy: 4offer 85 gold and contact with aztes for contact with babs
Paddy: 4goodbye
Paddy: lets go meet the babes
Paddy: 4propse deal
Paddy: i wanna get a the WM
Nimitz: they know the japs and koreans
Paddy: yes
Paddy: suggestions
Nimitz: its 50 g + WM + Aztecs
Jonny1: we can get their wM for Contact/Aztecs+WM+30g
Paddy: ouch
Paddy: opinions then
Jonny1: 30g will leave us with enough... but we'll have close to 0 left over
Nimitz: ya 30
Nimitz: do it
Paddy: should we or wait till later
Paddy: jonny
Nimitz: we will mak some money
Jonny1: or, we could do this: we can get contact with the Koreans+TM for Contact/Aztecs+WM+21g
Jonny1: but if you want to go for the first one, I say do it
Nimitz: hmm
Paddy: hmmm
Nimitz: the koreans are tempting
Paddy: how much for contact with korea
Nimitz: Contact/Aztecs+WM+21g
Paddy: cool
Paddy: thnak
Paddy: I like this oreans+TM for Contact/Aztecs+WM+21g
Nimitz: lets do it then
Jonny1: ok
Paddy: will we be hurting ourselves showing off that new land out west???
Paddy: ha, they know already right
Jonny1: yep, they know all
Nimitz: yes well they know were ther atleast
Paddy: 4Porpse Koreans+TM for Contact/Aztecs+WM+21g
Paddy: 4goodbye
Nimitz: well we should trade the aztec contact to all now
Paddy: wow they are in the northeast
Paddy: so lets go visit Korea
Paddy: 4Propse a deal with Korea
Jonny1: we can get their WM for our WM+2g
Paddy: what can we do here then gents
Paddy: excellent
Paddy: what of the japanese
Nimitz: jonny just gave it
Paddy: yes
Jonny1: or, we can get Contact/Japanese for WM+Contact/Aztecs+15g
Paddy: hmmm
Jonny1: the Japanese are expensive, it seems
Paddy: yes
Paddy: shall we settle for there map
Nimitz: yup
Jonny1: yes
Nimitz: con/aztec+WM for there WM
Nimitz: and
Jonny1: no... their WM for our WM+2g
Paddy: listening
Nimitz: 16 gold
Jonny1: but then they could have the opprotunity to sell Contact/Aztecs to others before we do...
Nimitz: we get profit from a contact they would get next turn any ways
Nimitz: we already traded it it will spread
Jonny1: ahh, true...
Jonny1: then let's get what we can for it
Nimitz: we must trade it to all we can
Paddy: so the gold wins.
Jonny1: so, their WM+16g for our WM+contact/Aztecs
Paddy: 4WM+16g for our WM+contact/Aztecs
Paddy: 4good bye
Jonny1: hmm...
Paddy: great maps
Jonny1: looking at the map, we should try and get contact/Japan as soon as we can...
Paddy: yes
Nimitz: we got spain left
Jonny1: judging by city graphics... the Japanese are still ancient age, so there is a possibility for tech
trading
Paddy: cool
Paddy: 12 any thing else at all ..... .....
Nimitz: no
Jonny1: yes...
Jonny1: we can sell our WM+contact/Aztecs to Persia for 70g
Paddy: great
Nimitz: what
Jonny1: it turns out they never met the Aztecs
Nimitz: they were there
Paddy: 4propose deal Persia
Nimitz: wow
Paddy: 4 sell our WM+contact/Aztecs to Persia for 70g
Jonny1: they must have just established that city when we got it from them...
Paddy: yes
Paddy: Paddy Borg was there city
Paddy: good bye
Paddy: 4good bye
Nimitz: there are two nations I can see the boarders of if the fog
Paddy: whewre
Paddy: can you do a shot and post it in the Senate 30 session
Jonny1: east of Korea and North of Babylon
Nimitz: yup
Paddy: gents. i have a truck just arriving in the dock downstairs, I will need a 10 minute break to go let
them in
Jonny1: they appear to be brown (Russia?) and light blue-green (Celts?), respectively
Paddy: good
Paddy: we will have great maps soon
Paddy: 12is there anything else
Jonny1: I don't think so, unless we want to get Lit from the Spanish
Paddy: how much
Paddy: it would be good at the right price
Jonny1: Lit+their TM for our WM+contact/Aztecs+70g
Paddy: hahahahaha
Paddy: Nimitz ???
Jonny1: seems like a bargain...
Paddy: yes
* Paddy slaps Nimitz around a bit with a large trout
Paddy: are you still here old chap
Jonny1: he said earlier that he had to step away for a few minutes
Jonny1: but if the two of us agree... he can't do anything to stop us *evil laughter*
Paddy: oh
Nimitz: get lit
Nimitz: I'm doing the pica
Nimitz: s
Paddy: 4propse spainish deal Lit+their TM for our WM+contact/Aztecs+70g
Paddy: 4Good bye
Paddy: ok
Paddy: 4Saving
Paddy: I must do this now - gents. i have a truck just arriving in the dock downstairs, I will need a 10
minute break to go let them in
Paddy: so can we have a 10 minute break 
Jonny1: ok
Paddy: 
Nimitz: ok
* theViking has joined #civ3dem
theViking: hi
Nimitz: hey
Nimitz: the pics are up
theViking: what is the latest save?
Jonny1: end of 350... let me upload it for you
Nimitz: yup
theViking: thanks
Jonny1: it's at the end of the Senate Session 30 thread
Paddy: hi
theViking: ok
theViking: hi
Paddy: there is a new save
Paddy: do you want that
Paddy: hi theV
theViking: newer than end of 350
Paddy: oh
Paddy: sorry
Paddy: hahahaha
Nimitz: lol
Paddy: did not see jonnys post
Jonny1: on a totally unrelated note... I just might scream if I see another one of those Dungeon Siege
take-over ads on the forums...
theViking: try POW from analogx.com
Jonny1: I'll look into that, thanks
Nimitz: lol
Paddy: ok, everybody ready then
Jonny1: yep
Nimitz: I would block them but
Jonny1: google blocker isn't stopping it
Nimitz: I have some use for ActiveX
Paddy: 4end turn
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TurnChat / Senate Session 29 Part III
Nimitz: We have another persian city
Nimitz: on the Paddy Borg lands
Jonny1: darn it...
Paddy: yes
Jonny1: curse those darned Persians!
Paddy: yes
Jonny1: anyway...
Paddy: 4Cowpult 2-2-1
Nimitz: we must hurry the colonization
Paddy: 4TBFree gally 4-7 fort
Paddy: 4Mad X 4 fort
Paddy: 4Rammed 7 fort
Paddy: 4oct swords stack 9-9 fort
Paddy: 4Bobs worker stack 1-1-1
Paddy: 4Horror of sidon stack 1-1 fort
Paddy: 4wake 3 swords in thor was ere
Jonny1: amigo, lang day, bold axe awaken and move 9-9-9?
Paddy: 4bold axe sword stack 9-9-9
Paddy: 4worker bee stack mine
Jonny1: Thor's sickle moves 4-1-4...
Paddy: 4Thor's sickle moves 4-1-4
Paddy: 4The Edge 3-3 sit
Paddy: digger and ralf workers ???
Jonny1: I guess sit them for now, Thor's Sickle can pick them up after dropping off the units at Jaen
Paddy: 4digger and ralf workers sit
Jonny1: they can then be dropped off at Palace of Ice/Snow after Thor's Sickle gets to NA
Paddy: 4Sharp Eyes scout 4-4
Paddy: 4drinking vessel 1-2
Paddy: 4 4drinking vessel 3
Paddy: 12 any other unit movements
Jonny1: the forgotten warrior moves 1-1 onto Thor's Sickle
Paddy: 4 the forgotten warrior moves 1-1 onto Thor's Sickle
Jonny1: and then we could start loading some of the galleys at NA, if so desired
Paddy: ok
Paddy: all swords
Paddy: ???
Jonny1: yes, to start with
Paddy: load 4 swords to galleys
Jonny1: starting with the vets, then regulars
Paddy: 4 load 4 swords to galleys
Paddy: do you want all the cats
Jonny1: does it matter which galleys the swords go on?
Paddy: no
Paddy: they are all going as a fleet rigght
Jonny1: true
Jonny1: now the cats
Paddy: 4load all cats
Jonny1: just 2, rock and fire and roadrunner
Jonny1: the others are loaded already
Paddy: cool
Paddy: how many spears do you want to take
Jonny1: do we want to move the galleys in NA out into the bay?
* Duddha has joined #civ3dem
Nimitz: done
Paddy: Hi Dude
Duddha: hello, fellow vikings
Paddy: yes
Jonny1: hello
theViking: hi
Nimitz: hey
Paddy: 4move the black douglas 6
Paddy: 4fort
Paddy: 4move all galleys (except the big free) 6 and fort
Jonny1: paddy, I think about 6-7 spears eventually
Paddy: ok
Paddy: so we leave 2 in New Asguard then
Jonny1: 2 spears, 1 archer in NA
Nimitz: ok
Paddy: 4The big free sits
Paddy: horses??
Paddy: 4Olav the archer forrts
Jonny1: we can bring along the 3 horses that are already in NA
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Nimitz: hey
Paddy: 4Royal Guards & defender of Hope fort
Jonny1: hello
Nimitz: huh
Nimitz: Royal Guards & defender of Hope fort
BigFree: wow, a full house!
BigFree: Are thi Vikings kicking ass yet? 
theViking: hi
Jonny1: we're working on it...
Paddy: 4horsemen move 6 and load
Paddy: Hi Big Free
Paddy: archers ???
Jonny1: we can put archers in any spaces that aren't taken up by swords
Paddy: 4 Dons Quills 6
Paddy: 4 other 2 archers 6
Nimitz: I'm waiting for the reast of the ministers before I say its a full house
Paddy: hahaha
Paddy: 4jon spears 6
Paddy: 12 is there any thing else at all
Jonny1: nope... the boats are full now, except for The Edge
Paddy: yep
Paddy: 4 saving
Paddy: does anybody need the save
Duddha: yeah
Paddy: loadiung now then
Paddy: 
Duddha: thanks
Paddy: it will be a minute or two 
Paddy: well after a long time, we are on the edge of the battle of madrid
Paddy: so do we launch the fleet from 6 of NA or 9-9???
Jonny1: either works for me...
Jonny1: I guess 6
Paddy: 9-9 lands them in one of the tiles you wanted...
Paddy: 6 does not
Paddy: 4the save is up
Jonny1: it does if you wake them from the boats manually and walk them onto land...
Jonny1: but 9-9 would be easier from a gameplay standpoint
Paddy: ok, either wins
Paddy: I see you placement 
Jonny1: actually, 6 will be better, as it will allow us to load the Lang Day swordstack 1 turn quicker
Paddy: yes
Paddy: 12Ok everyone ready then
Nimitz: yup
Jonny1: yes
theViking: yes
Paddy: Dude??
Duddha: yeah
Duddha: go ahead, sorry
Paddy: 4End Turn
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TurnChat / Senate Session 29 Part IV
Paddy: Kalgoorlie erupts
Paddy: 4Give ent 4 we will come back to it
Paddy: 4Cowpult forts
Paddy: 4TBFee Galley 6 fort
Paddy: 4Al Gore wk stack roads
Paddy: 4agabar 2
Paddy: Jonny TS 4-2 wait ???
Jonny1: yep
Paddy: 4TS 4-2 wait
Paddy: 4Eirick (in Beowulf) 9-9
Paddy: 4Sharp eyes scout 4-1
Paddy: 4Drinking vessel 1-1
Paddy: 4Drinking vessel 3
Paddy: 4Madrid Express Galley stack 9 fort
Paddy: 4Thors sickle 8
Paddy: 4Bobs worker stack 1-2-2
Paddy: 4Bold Axe swords stack 9-9-9
Paddy: new galley in Thors Hammer name = ????
Jonny1: hmmm...
Duddha: The Unsinkable
Paddy: 4new galley in Thors Hammer name = The Unsinkable
Paddy: 4The Unsinkable 8-9 sit
Paddy: 4The Edge 6-2-4
Paddy: Digger & Ralf sit
Paddy: 4Digger & Ralf sit
Paddy: 12 any other unit moves???
Jonny1: I don't believe so...
Paddy: 1212 time for a search of the cities yet again 
Paddy: Kalgoorlie ahhhhhhhh
Paddy: 4Paddy Borg build queue to Settler
Duddha: We should kill those heathen traitors for rebeling against his King
Paddy: well they are but new minions after all 
Paddy: where is the carpenter, time to order some crosses
Paddy: will we have the same issue in Larvik next turn ???
Jonny1: we might...
Jonny1: anyway, the entertainer in Kalgoorie can be changed into a taxman
Paddy: hmmm
Jonny1: and in Larvik, we could do WF 6=:[/b][/color]taxman
Paddy: Nimitz???
Jonny1: or entertainer there, actually
Paddy: Dude???
Paddy: theV???
theViking: tax them
Paddy: both??
Paddy: 4Kalgoorlie ent to TAX
Paddy: 4Larvik wf 6 to Tax
Paddy: Ring of Viking
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Paddy: Hi Mak
Makahlua: good tihng I decided to crusie by 'Poly!
Paddy: I think we could take wf 3-3 for tax
Paddy: We will have a save soon
Jonny1: RoV WF 8 =:[/b][/color] tax
Duddha: 6 ppl at a senate metting!
Paddy: hmmm
Jonny1: 3-3 causes starvation...
Paddy: opps
Paddy: was being greedy for shields
Paddy: 4RoV WF 8 to tax
Paddy: 12 anything else then???
Jonny1: also, a potential deal with Korea...
Jonny1: contact with Japan for WM+49g
Paddy: hmmm
Paddy: looks good to me
Paddy: anyone else???
Makahlua: Korea?? Japan?? whoa i've missed abit 
Paddy: wait till you see the map
Paddy: 4propose deal with Korea contact with Japan for WM+49g
Paddy: 4Goodbye
Paddy: lets go meet the Jap man
* Makahlua waits on pins and needles 
Duddha: thier island looks like a yin yang, lol
Makahlua: I bet that's intentional, after seeing Tenochitlan ;p
Paddy: yes... one wonders of the map makers sense of humours
Nimitz: hey
Jonny1: we can go ahead and grab currency from the Japanese if we want
Nimitz: yup
Paddy: do we want anything with the Jap man 
Paddy: what is the deal
Jonny1: Currency+WM for Lit+Poly+WM
Paddy: hahahaha
Paddy: after all the work our 1 scientist has done for it.... 
Paddy: anyone got any issues with this deal
* Rasputin has joined #civ3dem
Makahlua: 7 people!
Nimitz: no do it
Rasputin: damn im late as always....
Jonny1: ahh... this room's getting crowded
Paddy: 4Propose deal with Japan Currency+WM for our Lit+Poly+WM
Paddy: hahahaha
Nimitz: no its not its getting just right
Paddy: long live the Vikings 
Paddy: 4Goodbye
Nimitz: two more iminsters and I'll be happy
Paddy: hahahaha
Rasputin: so we had the coup yet LOL
Paddy: 12 anything else then
Paddy: Hi Raz
Rasputin: hey paddy
Jonny1: hello
Jonny1: i don't think there's anything else
Rasputin: you going to save this turn on poly ?
Paddy: wait till you see the map old chap
Paddy: yes
Paddy: 4saving
Rasputin: cool ill wait til that done then
theViking: are we going for The Republic?
Jonny1: I'm afraid I'm going to have to leave, because it's 12.40 AM and I'm about to collapse...
Paddy: 4uploading now, will be a minute or two
Jonny1: but I might wait one more
Paddy: yeah wait
Nimitz: same as for time but I'm going to keep on going
Paddy: it is the battle
Paddy: cool
Paddy: the fleet must sail 
Rasputin: is this the 24 hr saession paddy LOL
Jonny1: do we want to change research, or shall we stay researching Feudalism?
Paddy: no, that will be in a few weeks yet
theViking: Engeenering ?
Rasputin: any of the AI got leos ??
Jonny1: oh yes...
Nimitz: I say the last of the term should be 24 hours
theViking: or mabe Engineering?
Jonny1: the AI's way past Leo's... there on Adam Smith's!
Paddy: now, not the last one... but near the last week or two hahaha
Rasputin: ok then i think fued is better as it gives us an imeditate improved defneder
Paddy: 12370ad save is on the Start Now!!! thread
theViking: I will be back
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Paddy: cool
Paddy: 7{Judy, tankards all round for the Senate, thanks lass}
Rasputin: who judy ??
Rasputin: opening game now
Duddha: let us liberate Spain from the heathens!
Paddy: runs the senate bar
Paddy: Mak, are you set then?
Paddy: Raz?
Rasputin: ye i ready..
Rasputin: let sgo
Paddy: Mak???
Rasputin: she a topless barmaid ??? 
Paddy: 4End Turn
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* Makahlua loadec and ready :b;
* Rasputin sits idly bye
Jonny1: NA production?
* Rasputin downs another beer.
Rasputin: Harbor for production and Vet ships
Paddy: Harbour??? or troops???
Paddy: hello
* Nimitz slaps Rasputin around a bit with a large trout
Paddy: 4NA build queue Harbour
Jonny1: or marketplace, to improve cashflow?
* Rasputin grabs the trout and fries it on the BBQ
Rasputin: big furry ???
* Jonny1 salivates at the smell of grilled fish
Rasputin: Baracks for vet soldiers ?
Paddy: BFC Barracks
Paddy: ???
* Nimitz slaps Rasputin around a bit with a large trout
Jonny1: or aqueduct... it's already a size 5
* Rasputin cooks the sond trout and hands it to jonny
Duddha: DIA pigdog, the PPV will be avenged
Paddy: aqueduct.. looks great
Paddy: anyone???
* Nimitz slaps Rasputin around a bit with a large Knight
Rasputin: i prefer barracks
* Rasputin hopes that was a female knight
* Nimitz slaps Duddha around a bit with a large Knight
Paddy: Barracks would be quicker
Paddy: Nimitz???
Paddy: Dude???
Rasputin: yes we gonig to war more baracks the better expecialy for upgrades t opikes soon
Paddy: 12 let us focus so we can get there
Jonny1: but it's quite corrupt to make itself useful as a troop-building center
Duddha: barracks for the troops
Paddy: wow 80 turns fopr a courthouse 
Rasputin: wont stop that corruption for a while
Paddy: Mak???
Nimitz: loading save
Paddy: ok
Paddy: Nimitz you need to vote mate
Paddy: barracks or aquaduct
Rasputin: how bout building a settler there
Nimitz: which city
Paddy: Big Furry City
Rasputin: just for an abstract thought
Nimitz: ok
Nimitz: finish the temple
Jonny1: we've already ended turn 
Paddy: yes
Jonny1: let's just go with barracks so we can continue...
Nimitz: court house
Jonny1: and discuss it later if needed...
Paddy: 4BFC build barracks
Paddy: well said
Paddy: 4Rainbow wk mines
Rasputin: ok can we move worker within BFC ? or do that alter
Paddy: we move the units first
Rasputin: ok no probs
Paddy: 4PHC wks mine
Rasputin: ill write myslef a note
Paddy: hahaha
Paddy: worker bee stack roads
Rasputin: ok worker bee ??
Paddy: 4worker bee stack roads
Rasputin: one left
Jonny1: and Octavian?
Rasputin: 2-2
Paddy: 4Oct 2-1
Rasputin: ??
Rasputin: 2-1 ok
Paddy: 4agaba slashes juble
Rasputin: k
Paddy: 4al gore stack 2
Paddy: 4 al gore stack 2
Rasputin: k
Paddy: 4bold axe 9-9-6
Makahlua: so far
Jonny1: lang day 9-9-6
Paddy: 
Paddy: 4no amaigo 9-9-6
Jonny1: ok
Paddy: he was named to smack madrid
Rasputin: moved lang 996 ****
Paddy: wait then
Paddy: only move them on Red orders 
Rasputin: sirry
Paddy: do we want to take lang
Rasputin: yeah lets take them all
Paddy: if so we need to unload someone???
Rasputin: to war !!!!!
Jonny1: yea, let's take off one of the archers
Paddy: no room mate
Rasputin: rchers suck
Jonny1: Dons Quills unloads back into NA so Lang can get on
Rasputin: waiting for red
Rasputin: lol
Jonny1: paddy does that, not me 
Paddy: 4Dons Quills unloads back into NA so Lang can get on
Rasputin: i knoe
Paddy: 4 lang 9-9-6
Jonny1: thor's sickle 2-skip ...
Rasputin: k
Rasputin: so are we ready for war ???
Rasputin: do we have the numbers??
Paddy: 4thor's sickle 2- sit
Paddy: 4digger & ralf sit
Paddy: 4Sharp Eyes 3-2
Paddy: 4Drinking Vessel 1-3-3
Paddy: 4The Unsinkable Galley 6-3-3
Rasputin: k did them
Rasputin: k
Jonny1: swords in RoV needs name
Paddy: new swords in RoV name = ????
Rasputin: Eric the Viking
Paddy: 4new swords in RoV name = Eric the Viking
Jonny1: fortify him
Rasputin: why ??
Rasputin: dont we want him in spain ?
Makahlua: no more room on the galleys?
Jonny1: happiness... that allows us to put other worker back to work
Paddy: 4Eric the Viking forts
Jonny1: no galley room
Rasputin: ok while waiting for more galleys ?
Paddy: new horse in Thor was ere name = ???
Rasputin: Lone Ranger
Duddha: Blitzpferd
Rasputin: lol
Makahlua: Riders on the Storm
Rasputin: lots of names
Paddy: 4new horse in Thor was ere name = Riders on the Storm
Rasputin: i like the storm name
Paddy: where doo they go???
Makahlua: Horses are easier to name 
Duddha: agreed
Makahlua: yes i have the Doors playing on winamp right now, thanks for noticing 
Jonny1: he could provide happiness in SaG temporarily
Rasputin: yep dont want horeses in spain !!!
* theViking has joined #civ3dem
Jonny1: so, 6-6?
Paddy: 4Riders on the Storm 6-6-3-3
Paddy: bobs worker 2 moves 3 (I need a beer)
Paddy: 4 bobs worker 2 moves 3 (I need a beer)
Paddy: 4sven wker stack mine
Paddy: 12 now.... only the grand fleet to move ..... .....
Jonny1: no... we wait til next turn
Paddy: Jonny
Paddy: cool
Jonny1: because some loaded onto the fleet this turn... they cant unload also
Paddy: 12 time to check the cities out then
Jonny1: in RoV... taxman =:[/b][/color] WF 8 ... production =:[/b][/color]aqueduct?
* BigFree is now known as BigFree|Away
Paddy: 4RoV... taxman to WF 8
Makahlua: Yeah i was bout toa sk if *** was going to stay at 6
Paddy: 4RoV Build queue Aquaduct
Jonny1: in Larvik... entertainer =:[/b][/color] taxman
Paddy: hmmm, we did that last turn 
Paddy: thanks though
Rasputin: BFC Wk 99 to 69
Jonny1: ahhh... right, I remember now
Rasputin: :[/b][/color]?:[/b][/color]?:[/b][/color]:[/b][/color]
Paddy: BFC Wk 99 to 69 - why??
Jonny1: right now... those shields are wasted because of corruption
Makahlua: doesn't cahgne antythign taht i can se...?
Rasputin: stops waste opens up sqaures for other citys
Jonny1: but if Raiding Base is working that tile... 1 of those shields isn't lost
Rasputin: BFC Wk 8 to 2
Paddy: 4BFC Wk 8 to 2
Rasputin: move tohse two workers and we stop wasting shields
Rasputin: and 9-9 to 6-9
Paddy: 4BFC Wk 99 to 69
Rasputin: ta
Paddy: Raiding abse then???
Jonny1: RB WF 2=:[/b][/color] WF 2-3
Jonny1: gains Raiding Base an extra shield
Paddy: 4 RB WF 2 to WF 2-3
Paddy: we are getting it dobne then
Paddy: 12anything else
Jonny1: i don't think we can do anything with the other one, then
Rasputin: yep..
Rasputin: hang opn just checkjoing others
Jonny1: do we want to rush the settler out east?
Jonny1: *west?
Rasputin: palace of ice and snow WF 6 to 1
Rasputin: increase gold income
Paddy: 4palace of ice and snow WF 6 to 1
Jonny1: yep
* Togas has joined #civ3dem
Togas: hello
Paddy: hi
Jonny1: hello
theViking: hi
Nimitz: hey
Paddy: shall we rush the settler out east now?
Nimitz: why not
Makahlua: TOgas - very cute waht yuo did with tenochtitlan ^^
Jonny1: go for it
Togas: You like? 
Rasputin: ok brb
Paddy: 4Paddy Borg - Rush purchase settler
Makahlua: I like 
Makahlua: very historical as well 
Paddy: do you want to waut for next turn to spy out Madrid?
Paddy: historical.... hahahaha 
Jonny1: yes
Togas: bfm and I had hoped they'd learn Mapmaking and eventually move forth
Makahlua: really! It was in the middle of a lake IRL too 
Rasputin: lol poor aztecs
Togas: yep 
Paddy: 12 anything else then
Rasputin: nope next turn
Paddy: 4Saving
Jonny1: I also like the unique shape of the Korea/Japan continent
Paddy: hahaha
Nimitz: yes they never had a chance
Paddy: 12anyone need the save loaded
Togas: you guys finally got some map trades. Good 
Nimitz: yup
theViking: yes please
Paddy: 12loading now, will take a minute or two
Makahlua: yeah i noticed that pefectly even and deep strip of ocean between Egypt and Korea/Japan heh.
Makahlua: my bad. babylon/Egypt
Makahlua: I see Spain knows England - I bet that's who's over on that area the BLueLady sank in.
Togas: you guys should get contact with england
Togas: and get their map too
Paddy: stirrer 
Rasputin: stuff the maps, let sjust crush our opposition first...
Paddy: 12the save is on the Start thread
Jonny1: hopefully we can get contact with england from the peace agreement
Jonny1: after we take madrid, that is...
Nimitz: I'm guessing there and other laugh in how england is
Paddy: 12 those loading - are we ready
theViking: ok
Paddy: 4end turn
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Makahlua: yep
Makahlua: oho!
Makahlua: I guess Isabella trraded us around :P
Paddy: hahaha
Jonny1: do deal with Elizabeth?
Rasputin: 18 gold for map!! yes
Paddy: yes
Jonny1: yep
Paddy: any no's
Rasputin: no no nos
Rasputin: hehehehe
Paddy: 4agree with Lizzie
Rasputin: good trade
Makahlua: 18 for territory, but that's a goos start 
Jonny1: goodbye to Lizzie?
Paddy: do we want anything else, like celts
Makahlua: I'm wrong, she's N of Egypt.
Rasputin: goodbye
Jonny1: no wait...
Rasputin: we gonig to try trade with anyone else
Jonny1: 18g+Contact/French for our WM
Jonny1: ?
Paddy: from Lizz
Paddy: ???3
Jonny1: yes
Paddy: yes cool
Paddy: anyone not like that
Togas: go for it
Rasputin: contact who??
Jonny1: France
Makahlua: yay we get our $$ back 
Nimitz: go for it
Paddy: 4deal with Lizz 18g+Contact/French for our WM
Rasputin: only got celts on my list here
Rasputin: HUH
Paddy: are you in PTW?
Rasputin: yes
Jonny1: odd...
Rasputin: france is on my contact lsit already...
Paddy: huh!!!
Paddy: 4Goodbye to Lizz
Jonny1: are you already at the beginning of the next turn... becuase we're still in the between turn
Paddy: 4Don Quills Forts
Rasputin: no paddy said end tur
Rasputin: **** i need t odownlaod save...
Rasputin: did you post it paddy ??
Rasputin: somehow i got free communications with france
Paddy: yes, it is on the Start thread
Rasputin: okj wait for me please dont get too far aheadf
Jonny1: what do you think of this deal from Celts... WM for WM?
Nimitz: I think I see france
Paddy: I like from Celts... WM for WM?
Makahlua: yeah the french borderis on Englan's north, and England has Tours
Paddy: hmmm
Paddy: so Celts - yes or no
Jonny1: yes
Nimitz: yes
Makahlua: yes
Paddy: 4propose deal from Celts... WM for WM
Paddy: wow
Paddy: 4goodbye
Paddy: hello france
Paddy: wow our galleys really get around 
Paddy: 12 lets search the cities while we wait for Raz
Jonny1: shall we investigate Madrid now?
Rasputin: ok i back
Rasputin: and uptodate
Jonny1: for 110g
Paddy: yes
Paddy: 4Investigate Madrid for 110 gold
Paddy: 12 Nimitz, can you please take a poic and post it. 
Nimitz: ok
Jonny1: 1 musket, 4 pikes defending... 6 shields/turn ... university in 1 turn
Paddy: hmmm
Paddy: looks like they build us a nice city
Paddy: ok shall we dance the Grand Fleet?
Jonny1: shall we investigate Jaen too?
Paddy: hmmm
Paddy: how much???
Jonny1: 22g
Paddy: yes
Paddy: any issues anyone???
Makahlua: nope that's nice and cheap.
Paddy: 4Investigate Jean for 22 gold
Makahlua: 3 spears and a galley, has a library
Paddy: 4Nimitz, can you please take a pic and post it. 
Paddy: 12Nimitz, can you please take a pic and post it. 
Paddy: hahahaha 
Jonny1: building settler, complete in 6... certainly headed for the Aztec lands...
Rasputin: ordered t odo it
Rasputin: ok lets start the crushing
Paddy: 12 Jonny the word is from you .... 
Jonny1: okay then...
Nimitz: ok it will be just min for the pic
Paddy: thanks
Jonny1: first, let's declare war on Spain first (for purposes of protecting our reputation)
Paddy: cool
Jonny1: any objections? 
Paddy: no
Jonny1: 4Declare war on Spain
Togas: 
Jonny1: and now the dance begins...
Makahlua: 
Paddy: 7Long Live Jonny - The Viking Supreme Military Commander
* Nimitz slaps Jonny1 around a bit with a large trout
Nimitz: for
Togas: LOL!
Nimitz: luck
Jonny1: 4the 9 galley stack moves 6-9-9
Paddy: thanks Jonny
Togas: definately post a shot of the invasion
Jonny1: 4all units on board unload 6
Jonny1: :evil laughter:
Paddy: 4The unsinkable 6-3-3
Paddy: 4worker bee stack 2-1
Paddy: 4Rider on 3 fort
Paddy: 4Oct slave mine
Rasputin: did we move the whole fleet 6 9 9
Paddy: 4Bob wk 2 moves 7
Paddy: yes
Paddy: all 9 units
Paddy: 4Digger and Ralf sit
Jonny1: shall I make the moves for the Jaen invasion as well?
Paddy: Jonny, where for TSickle?
Paddy: yes please
Rasputin: woooha hold on
Jonny1: holding on...
Paddy: whats going onn Raz
Rasputin: trying to catch up
Rasputin: soory boutt hat yo jsut went to ofast LOL
Rasputin: ok all done
Rasputin: sorry
Jonny1: ok then...
Jonny1: 4Thor's Sickle moves 3-3, unloads both units 6, then moves 7
Rasputin: took a long time to unlaod my troops
Rasputin: k
Jonny1: 4Cowpult and Nuclear Master move 8-4
Paddy: did you want the archer as well???
Rasputin: wheres cowpult and NM
Makahlua: BFC
Jonny1: well, bring him along too, but we'll have to get a temporary entertainer
Jonny1: 4Sneaky Pete moves 8-4
Paddy: woo hoo 
Paddy: anything else Sir?
Makahlua: reccomend the WF @ 2 for the entertainer.
Jonny1: no, that's all for me... back to you, Mr. President
Paddy: 4WF @ 2 for the entertainer in BFC
Paddy: thank you Jonny that was great
Nimitz: tax collector
Rasputin: ha the real chore comes next turns
Nimitz: not entertainer
Paddy: hmmm
Makahlua: ah, good eye. 
Paddy: 4 the entertainer in BFC to TAX Man
Nimitz: lol
Rasputin: done
Paddy: what shall we do with Dustrer the worker???
theViking: 7 colo
Jonny1: not a bad idea...
Paddy: colo = clear jungle???
theViking: colony
Jonny1: build colony
Paddy: ahhh
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Rasputin: build colony
Paddy: yes
Makahlua: oooo. good now
Paddy: 4duster 7 build colony
Jonny1: i don't think i've actually ever used a colony before...
Paddy: thanks
Makahlua: i can recall like -once-.
Paddy: 4Al gore pack slash
Rasputin: i do it al lthe time !! LOL
Paddy: western Settler is stuck by that barbarian
Rasputin: k
Rasputin: activate the spearmen
Rasputin: kill warior with spea ??
Togas: I'd love to see how it goes, but I have to sleep
Togas: so I'll read about it tomorrow morning 
Togas: Good luck all, and enjoy the map
Jonny1: settler should move 8, so if barb kills the spear, the settler still lives
Makahlua: we are,a nd thanks! 
Jonny1: thanks for stopping by Togas
Paddy: thanks
Togas: np
Togas: night, guys!
theViking: night
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Rasputin: activate the spea guys
Rasputin: do spearmen attack first
Paddy: hmmm
Rasputin: frees up the settelr t omove
Paddy: Jonny?
Rasputin: its only a babr warrior very easy
Jonny1: spearman should stay on the defensive... fortified... better odds
Rasputin: but wastes a turn moving .
Rasputin: if we attack he moves back next turn
Makahlua: better than dead.
Paddy: yes... they are night great at attacking
Rasputin: he wont die
Rasputin: odds i nfavour agaisnt barbs
Makahlua: i mean moving thesettelr is better than dead.
Jonny1: no Barb bonus on deity level... IIRC
Rasputin: cowards again !!!!
Rasputin: just do it paddy, get the spear to attack the warrioe
Nimitz: stay in the city
Makahlua: we're trying to save VIking live here ^^
Jonny1: i recommend fortify spear, settler 7
Paddy: Jonny Spears to attack or defend?
Rasputin: hmmmmmm
Rasputin: cowards...
Nimitz: defend
Rasputin: n olives wil lbe lost
Jonny1: defend... I have to go with the numbers here
Rasputin: cowardsw again
Rasputin: grrrrr
Paddy: chill all thank you
Rasputin: lol
Paddy: 4settler sits
Paddy: 4Sharp eyes 2
Jonny1: no... settler was supposed to move 7!... but too late now...
Paddy: 4Drinking Vessels 2-2-2
Paddy: why move the settler 7 if the spears are defending?
Paddy: 12time to check the cities 
Makahlua: in case they don't live the barbs will kill the sttlers
Jonny1: that way, if the spears do lose, the settler stays alive... if the spears lose while settler is in
the city, he dies
Paddy: thanks
Rasputin: geez guys spearman wont die .. he would hav ethrashed the wariiro in attack too.
Paddy: 12 anything else
Rasputin: ok checking citys
Jonny1: now... I hate to ruin this great turnchat... but I have to get up early in the morning and it's past
2 AM... I simply can't stay any longer... 
Rasputin: vlhalla WF 3 to 7 increas shiloed by one
Paddy: well good night to you Jonny
Jonny1: good luck in battle...
Rasputin: well ill kil lthem all
Jonny1: I have one thing for you to remember... bombard first, then attack with swords, then archers, then
horses... in that order preferably
Jonny1: good nite all
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Rasputin: i agree johhny
Makahlua: SaG WF @ 8 to 8-7 to shave a couple turns off the aqueduct
Paddy: 4vlhalla WF 3 to 7
Rasputin: did we agree on vlhalla move
Rasputin: opk donr
Rasputin: damn my typing sux
Paddy: 4SaG WF @ 8 to 8-7
Rasputin: agreed
Makahlua: Rasp - my foult, I'm probably cathing with my typo itis ^^
Makahlua: see? 
Paddy: 12 anything else
Rasputin: better not sit so lcose to me mak i reaaly bad with it
Rasputin: nah lets goto war
Rasputin: cowards
Rasputin: i will psot again about your cowardice
Makahlua: FoG WF @ 3-3 to 3 = +1 gold
Paddy: 4FoG WF @ 3-3 to 3
Rasputin: well done
Paddy: ummm
Paddy: Fog about to riot
Paddy: tax man to ent ???
Rasputin: yes
Rasputin: two entertainers
Duddha: ok, yes
Makahlua: amke another tax, thw roks
Paddy: FoG Tax amn to Party Man
Paddy: 4FoG Tax amn to Party Man
Makahlua: oh ok yours is better 
Paddy: where about Mak?
Paddy: hahaha 
Rasputin: why is our wceince set at 0
Rasputin: sceience
Rasputin: we not reaserchign anymore ??
Makahlua: we use unccorruptable scientists that's why
Rasputin: so how often our sceinctists makign discoveires
Rasputin: it says nevr
Makahlua: 40 turns 
Duddha: to slow down those godless scientists
Rasputin: mine lists as never
Makahlua: it should say feud in 38
Rasputin: nope my shows feud (--)
Paddy: that is on the slider
Rasputin: to get to 38 turns needs science at 10 %
theViking: you should have a scientist in NA
Makahlua: Or once scientist 
Nimitz: yup
Paddy: it is 38 turns on the science adnisor screen 
Makahlua: PS Larvik could now move the Tax to a WF2 for growth to 6
Paddy: we do have a scientist in NAsguard 
Rasputin: ok changed NA to scientist
theViking: it was last turn...
Rasputin: must have changed sinc i loaded the save
Paddy: 4Larvik could now move the Tax to a WF2 for growth to 6
Paddy: Paddy: we do have a scientist in NAsguard 
Paddy: sorry about dpost
* Makahlua thinks Ras' computer is haunted 
Paddy: 12 anything else
Rasputin: hmmmm
Rasputin: ok
Rasputin: whos going to save me from my haunted comp
Paddy: hahaha
Paddy: 4saving
Makahlua: The fleet @ Madrid? ^^
Paddy: what of it?
theViking: Are you posting also?
Rasputin: fleet fully moved
Paddy: 12 eould anyone like the save?
theViking: yes
Paddy: cool
Paddy: my 5 hours on dial up are almost over
Rasputin: this is goniug to be fun ot see spanish repsone to your pathetic invasion forces LOL
Paddy: you are the first swords we are sending in mate !!!!!
Rasputin: LOL
Paddy: 12 uploading now, may take a minute or two
Rasputin: hoepfully i survive the cpunte strike LOL
Paddy: yeah right
Rasputin: counter strike that was
Rasputin: meant to say
Paddy: 12 the saave is upo
Paddy: I will be back in 5 minutes 
Makahlua: that too ;p
Paddy: Raz, might be time to ring your GF and say your goodbyes 
Rasputin: bastard going for a beer ???
Paddy: yes please
Rasputin: am i going to die this turn paddY??
Rasputin: are we eneding the turn?
* Nimitz slaps Paddy5 around a bit with a large trout
Paddy5: so did you ring her
Duddha: Isn't "paddy" also in the stack, shouldn't our brave leader head the charge 
Paddy5: oh I am there , but I am noit whinging ever 17 seconds like some 
Makahlua: I thought he was hding in his own colony in Aztca with the dusky Aztec Maidens? ^^
Duddha: maybe put the VP to good use, wait a DIA prez, no
Paddy5: well , funny you should mention that
Nimitz: Too late
theViking: I am ok
Paddy5: 12everone locked and loaded?
Nimitz: what funny about it
Makahlua: yep yep
Paddy5: 4End Turn
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Rasputin: yep.. i suggest unless the cats make hits we dont attack
Paddy5: hahahaaha
Paddy5: your mad
Nimitz: Wm For WM
Rasputin: not enoguh swordemns snet , we need about 12-15 probpalby more if he has upgraded this pikes to
muskets too
Paddy5: one moment you want a spearto charge then this
Paddy5: hahaha
Rasputin: spear can kill a barb warrior any dy...
Paddy5: 4accept WM
Rasputin: try it from the old save later paddy !!!
Rasputin: yep wm gooda
Paddy5: 4Goodbye
Rasputin: see pathetic wariiror
Makahlua: only because the spear was on -defense- 
Paddy5: 12 so too WAR
Paddy5: 4Road Runner Bombards
Paddy5: 4Rock and Fire Bombards
Rasputin: **** loasy aimers
Rasputin: this is not good people
Paddy5: 4Wall Breaker Fires
Paddy5: 4Horse the Cat fires
Rasputin: as i said before mak , reload the save beofore last turn and try the spear v warrior yourseof....
Paddy5: move on Raz
Rasputin: i have
Paddy5: 12 to Jean
Makahlua: i got 0 hits :/
Duddha: me too
Rasputin: i urgently request we dont attakc madrid til lthe cats hit something
Paddy5: 4Cowpult bombards
Rasputin: i have never had so few hits
Paddy5: Cats are traditionally useless..
Duddha: i got one hit on that
Paddy5: I had none
Rasputin: and so liong till we get an upgrade
Rasputin: you on ptw duddha ??
Rasputin: or c3c ??
Duddha: c3c
Rasputin: yeah c3c sees to give cats a better chance
theViking: I got one hit too in c3c
Paddy5: do we wait like Raz asks, which allows them to bring up help
Duddha: are we going to attack madrid?
Rasputin: we cant win madrid ...
Paddy5: why
Rasputin: our swords will all die
Makahlua: it looks like they rushed or upgraded a musket too.
Paddy5: yes there is a pic on Madrid, they had one
Paddy5: and 4 pikes
Makahlua: yeah but i mean another or upgraded a pike
Rasputin: investigate madrid again ...
Paddy5: we are at war now
Duddha: where is our SMC to decide something of such importance
Rasputin: damn forgot cant in war
Rasputin: look i beg you not to waste our swordmen there
Paddy5: we have the power of the vote
Rasputin: we dont hav eenough, we need about 12-15 swords and more cats...
Paddy5: 121 for attack 2 for sit with Raz
Nimitz: they upgraded so they have to Masket
Rasputin: if they have upgraded to muskets al lfive we are doomed
Paddy5: 12 everyone to vote please
theViking: 1
Paddy5: 1
Rasputin: oh well
Duddha: hmm
Rasputin: let it be stated that i was agianst this mad slaughter
Makahlua: 0 = banana
Nimitz: well your always the one saying go for the attack
Nimitz: 0
Rasputin: and mak swings the vote with a banane
Paddy5: 12 no bananas here , please vote 1 or 2
Rasputin: no i plan my attacks, it sdont seem liek it but i ocunt odds
Makahlua: gah. 
Paddy5: 
Rasputin: odds bad this time
Nimitz: you must respect the right to abstain
Rasputin: abstainers are sending our boys to the death !!!
Paddy5: we are at WAR, VOTE !!!
Makahlua: et me think then 
Rasputin: possible 5 muskets agianst a few swordmen
Duddha: how many units.spearmen did they have in there last?
Nimitz: if you force my hand I'm going 2
Paddy5: you do not leave the boys on the beach by abstaining, we be Viking!
Rasputin: not spearmen muskets !!!!!
Nimitz: @
Nimitz: 2
Rasputin: 5 muskets
Nimitz: 2
Nimitz: 2
Nimitz: 2
Nimitz: 2
Nimitz: 2
Nimitz: 2
Duddha: 2
Rasputin: 5 muskets versus 8 sowrds
theViking: We have 29 attack points
Makahlua: 1 musket 4 pikes, but the musket on top is un forted, meaing it's additioanl or an upgrade
Rasputin: we need approx 3 swords per defenrder
Duddha: change to 1
Nimitz: so atleast 2 muskets
Duddha: why two?
Rasputin: we know one was fortified last turn
Duddha: hmm
Rasputin: now they have extra one there unfoirtiefed
Rasputin: well i have said my piece, i can but sit back and watch now
Paddy5: 12... ok all converstain to stop... please just the votes... by the 6 of us, then we can chat...
Paddy5: 12 start them here and now thank you
Paddy5: 1
Rasputin: 2
theViking: 1
Makahlua: 2
Duddha: 1
Rasputin: oh damn
Paddy5: 12come on Nimitz
Paddy5: Big Free you are needed
Paddy5: looks like we attack then
Nimitz: 2
Rasputin: ready to post about the mass slaughter 
Paddy5: ok thank you Nimitz
Rasputin: 3-3 votes who decides ties
Duddha: so now what
Paddy5: and Big Free is not waking up
Nimitz: that is the 8th time
Rasputin: does presidnet get two votes
Paddy5: we sit 
Paddy5: tes
Paddy5: 4WE wait
Rasputin: yeah i thank our gods
Rasputin: fortify all paddy
Paddy5: do we fortify??
Rasputin: yes..
Paddy5: do we put a force acroos the other tile
Duddha: how about halt ot seante meeting and discuss with a wider audience on the forum?
Rasputin: every turn w eneed to bombard and send mroe troops
Paddy5: at 3
Paddy5: Sorry Dude we play
Rasputin: umm yes good point
Rasputin: agree with blocking the peninsula
Paddy5: we have been here more than 5 hours for THIS battle 
Rasputin: went to oearly in the end paddy..
Rasputin: but not over yet...
Rasputin: we need another 10 -15 swords rushed and some lucky cats...
theViking: what about Jaen?
Paddy5: Ras, we needed that way before several people pushed for the attack 
Duddha: *Duddha calls a vote for to stop the Senate secession in this moment of crisis
Paddy5: no crisis here
Duddha: the senate is divided between action and inaction
Nimitz: ewwww
Rasputin: attack jean we cna take that. some lossses but we wil lwin
Nimitz: a time for a quote from the con
Makahlua: he's right, I don't have enough data to feel comfortable with votign yes, which is why i ried to
banana it :/
Makahlua: We could go ahead in Jean and other orders though.
Rasputin: i gave you the data.. 8 swords agaisnt a posibly 5 muskets
Paddy5: brb phone
Rasputin: eve nit was only one musket and 4 pikes we couldnt win wothout bombard damge
Duddha: attack jaen and then convene the session
Nimitz: we have call for a pause we wait till this is settled
Rasputin: i vote we play on ...
Makahlua: Jaen, order workers than puse me thinks.
Rasputin: if we leave it on forums might take days t oget enough votes.
Duddha: it is better that way
Nimitz: thats why I'm checking the con
Rasputin: well upto you guys,..
Paddy5: hi.
Paddy5: so are we in Crisis???
Paddy5: do we split the forces???
Duddha: found anything in the con nimitz?
Paddy5: we do the other moves then
Paddy5: ha
Paddy5: 
Paddy5: 4PHC stack roads
Paddy5: 4wkbee stack mine
Nimitz: still looking its there just hav to find it
Paddy5: 4the Unsinkable 2-4 sit
Nimitz: (i) In the event of a national emergency, the President shall halt play so that the crisis can be
resolved.
Paddy5: thanks Nimitz,
Rasputin: this isnt an mergency
Paddy5: lets finish the standard moves though - alright
Nimitz: then we desided
Duddha: ok
Paddy5: ok?
theViking: ok
Makahlua: 
Paddy5: 4new galley in Thors hammer name = ???
Makahlua: This is only a Test
Duddha: Constitution
Paddy5: 4new galley in Thors hammer name = Constitution
Paddy5: 4Constitution moves 4-1-2
Paddy5: 4bobs worker 2 mine
Paddy5: 4Digger and Ralf 9 toi TSickle
Paddy5: 4TSickle 8-6-9
Paddy5: 4Paddy Borg settler 1
Paddy5: 4Sharp Eyes 2-2
Paddy5: 4Drinking Vessel 2-2-3
Rasputin: ok to war with jen
Paddy5: 12only units in war left - lets talk
Rasputin: lets take jaen !!
Nimitz: Yes that we can agree on
Rasputin: good
Duddha: duddha votes to attack jaen
Paddy5: 4NMaster attacks Jean
Paddy5: 4Eirick attacks Jean
Rasputin: and you guys wante dto atack a musket LOL
Paddy5: 4The Forgotten Warrior attacks Jean3
Paddy5: the 3 was a typo
Paddy5: so do we send in Snaeky Pete or leave him to Protect the useless cat
Duddha: attack
Rasputin: leaves cats undefened
theViking: attack
Paddy5: 4Sneaky Pete attacks+
Nimitz: we have sword right
Paddy5: what sword?
Rasputin: you killed the aowrds
Nimitz: ok from now on we use archers on the spearmen
Makahlua: cheaper for one thing 
Nimitz: hmm I had one live
Rasputin: c3c is better
Rasputin: LOL
Paddy5: 
Nimitz: I also had the archer crush the defending spear
Duddha: me too
Paddy5: what happened
Rasputin: i had one swords men defeat actualy.. just noticed that
Paddy5: Mak how did yours go?
Paddy5: I only have a cat left
Duddha: ouch
Rasputin: hmmmm
Rasputin: i think spain is stronger than we think,. who said the spanish feared our amries
Makahlua: i got only a cat
Makahlua: it's not us, it's the bastard RNG 
Rasputin: ok i have tog oguys
Nimitz: I do like the way civ2 did that better
Rasputin: see ya alll
* Rasputin has left #civ3dem
Paddy5: bye
Duddha: alright, it is getting late for me, i'm going to retire to bed. I trust we will make the right
decisions, whatever that may be
* Duddha has quit IRC (Quit: )
Paddy5: hahahaha 
Paddy5: theV... ideas on Madrid trhen
Makahlua: Ii thnk this is point in an SP game where I would reload and not attack Spain.....but then I stick
to Regent/Monarch mostly ^^
Paddy5: 
Nimitz: hmm Warlord
Makahlua: and Pangea/COntinents
Makahlua: mmmmmm, land rovign SoD's ^^
Paddy5: hahahah
Paddy5: well I feel we need to strip our cities of troops and get entertainers/....
theViking: Let out troups go home 
Paddy5: send tyhe galleys back and get more troopps here
Nimitz: this is the point I'd say lay the save down run a quick poll in the forum a day or so and go after
that
Paddy5: ouch
theViking: we need Berserker.
Paddy5: yes 
Paddy5: ok
Nimitz: we just don't got the numbers here to do something that might cost us our offencinve force
Paddy5: let the army sit...
Nimitz: in senaters
Paddy5: then next turn remove them,
Makahlua: we could always laod up and hit some of the outlying colonies like Santander or Valladollid as well
as reattack Jaen and sue for peace and tech (and get
Paddy5: yes, but we need to protect the cats that have already moved this turn
Nimitz: we just didn't plan for Muskets
Makahlua: Ifo nly we knew where her SP was.
Nimitz: thats easy
Makahlua: Santander or Vittoria I ithnk
* Makahlua looks closer
Paddy5: do we protect the Cats?
Nimitz: its being bought
Makahlua: Santander. it has a road in the desert where VIttoris doesn't. No ther hills in Sapin either
Nimitz: oh ya we can't see it yet
Nimitz: and its got a port
Paddy5: 12do we protect the Cats? or load up and leave?
Makahlua: Load up , the (*^%(*&% things are useless 
Makahlua: or is this for the discussioin too?
Nimitz: banana
* Nimitz starts lobbing bananas at Madrid
Makahlua: those will probably to more damge - where's a bananapult when we need one!
Paddy5: we can not move the Cats this turn,, as they fired etc
Nimitz: yes
Paddy5: 12 sorry to be rude, but can we play?
Nimitz: 12protect
Paddy5: thanks you
Paddy5: 4All the war fleet sits
Paddy5: 4the invasion force fortifies
Paddy5: 12 time toi search the cities again then
Nimitz: well here we go
Paddy5: I do not see anything
Paddy5: anyone else 
Nimitz: well today you just got a small sample of what the game was like
Nimitz: nope
theViking: no
Paddy5: 4Saving
Nimitz: a hole 10 people we did good this chat
Paddy5: end turn
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TurnChat / Senate Session 29 Part XIII
Paddy5: Egyptian....... bugger
Paddy5: Looks like we are too late to take Jaen...
Paddy5: 4Battle fleet 4-4-1
Nimitz: oh well I gtg to bed cya all later
Paddy5: good night, thanks for a great session Nimitz
Paddy5: 4PHC Stack 2-2-2
Nimitz: hay call me for the next one
* Nimitz has quit IRC (Quit: )
Paddy5: hahahaha 
Paddy5: 4Rain bow chops
Paddy5: 4bobs worker stack 4
Paddy5: 4unsinkable 3-2-4
Paddy5: 4tSickle 4 sit
Paddy5: 4new spear at the Palace of ice name = Winter Guard, then fort
theViking: I think I have to quit now.
Paddy5: oh
Paddy5: thank you for a good session too 
theViking: cu later
Paddy5: 4 The constitution 4-4-7
Paddy5: have a great week
theViking: thanks
* theViking has quit IRC (Quit: )
Paddy5: look out for some fireery threads this week
Paddy5: 4Sharp Eyes 9-8
Paddy5: 4Drinking Vessel 6-6-3
Makahlua: And I will be poffing too as soon as this turn is done. 
Makahlua: er
Makahlua: *poof!ing*
Paddy5: 4Change queue in Paddy to Settler
Paddy5: hey thats unfair of you all 
Paddy5: I am here for another 2 hours
Paddy5: I sent them all off to the movies o we could get some game playing done
Paddy5: hahahahaha
Paddy5: that will teach me
* Makahlua slaps Paddy5 around a bit with a beeyyyutiful (and tasty) Alaskan salmon
Paddy5: hahahahaha\
Paddy5: thank you
Paddy5: well we are having an autumn thunderstorm out side...
Makahlua: I ahve to do the breakfast thing and all soon 
Paddy5: h,,mmmm
Paddy5: hahahha opps 
Paddy5: Thank you for playing through your night 
Paddy5: I am glad you are involved here
* Makahlua keeps odd freakin' hours anyway ^^
Paddy5: the threads will be firey this week 
Paddy5: yes, that is the live of a civ addict
Makahlua: Yes I see big flames about Madrid coming 
Paddy5: ouch
Paddy5: coming to us....!!!!
Paddy5: 4Propose deal with America TM and 1 gold for our WM
Paddy5: good bye
Makahlua: ooo america!
Paddy5: 4goodbye
Makahlua: oh drat more map work :/
Paddy5: opps
Paddy5: 4goodbye
Paddy5: 4trade our WM with Egypt TM and 5 gold
Paddy5: 4goodbye
Paddy5: 4trade our WM for Japanese TM - goodbye
Paddy5: 4trade our WM for Korean TM and 8 gold - goodbye
Paddy5: 4trade our WM for English TM and 12 gold - goodbye
Paddy5: saving
Paddy5: 4saving
Paddy5: 4end turn
Paddy5: 4PHC stack chop
Paddy5: 4the battle fleet sits
* Makahlua has quit IRC (Quit: )
Paddy5: yes almost done then.... bye..... 
Paddy5: 4Bobs worker stack mine
Paddy5: 4al gore stack mine
Paddy5: 4the constitution 7-7-7
Paddy5: 4Sharp eyes 8-8
Paddy5: 4drinking vessel 6-9-8
Paddy5: 4The unsinkable and Thors sickle sit
Paddy5: 4Larvik wf 3 to tax
Paddy5: 4Saving
Paddy5: 4endturn
Paddy5: 4Cathie of Russia offers her TM for our TM and 120 gold. offered counter proposal, gift of TM
Paddy5: 4apologise to eygpt for The Constitution Galley
Paddy5: 4Spain offers peace for peace and 20 gold - accept
Paddy5: 4we offer Spain our WM for her TM and 18 gold - accept - goodbye
Paddy5: The Spainish and building Smiths
Paddy5: 4wake the banker & rotherail and move 2-2-1
Paddy5: 4the unsinkable and thors sit
Paddy5: new spears in Lavrik named = the VP's Legal Eagles, then forts
Paddy5: 4new spears in Lavrik named = the VP's Legal Eagles, then forts
Paddy5: 4the const 7-7-8
Paddy5: 4sharp eyes 8-8
Paddy5: 4drinking vessel 9-9-8
Paddy5: the black douglas 9-6-2, wake transported
Paddy5: 4the black douglas 9-6-2, wake transported
Paddy5: 4madrid express wake transported, move them 3
Paddy5: 4mantris & road warriors 3
Paddy5: 4Where it was Mister rush builds spear for 68 gold
Paddy5: 4rest of battle fleet fortifies
Paddy5: 4Paddy and the Scots 3
Paddy5: 4Octavian swords 3
Paddy5: 4Saving 
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