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Sava is offline Sava
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Libertarianism is foolishness.. it is communism in disguise.


Fez's brain must be a funny place.

you're too funny!

Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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If there is one person who knows foolishness its Fez.


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I'm telling you libertarianism just does not exist... it is a communism plan to oppress people.

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Damn, those commies suuure r smrt .

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Yep, Librarians are communists.

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Comrade Fez, you'll die for this treachery, revealing our plans!

Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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Comrade Fez, you'll die for this treachery, revealing our plans!


I told you I am a spy for the capitalist party.

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Ogie, that is what libertarianism is. You have to look at reality. It is communism in disguise.






Urrrrrrggggghhhh! That hurt.

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Ditto (for the opposite reasons.. )

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No you won't because I'll never touch the stuff, also I might have a DEA friend there with me.


I'll get him mashed as well!

Who knows, maybe I'll liberalise you

Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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I'll get him mashed as well!

Who knows, maybe I'll liberalise you


No.. you'll spend some time in jail.

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No.. you'll spend some time in jail


Is that a come on?

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Is that a come on?


Ugh.

You. Stay. Away. From. Me.

(Oh and regarding that quote in your sig, that was a mere typo)

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Ugh.

You. Stay. Away. From. Me.


Fez doesn't like Whaleboy

What if I rejected evil communism?

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(Oh and regarding that quote in your sig, that was a mere typo)


But we don't want the rest of the world thinking that, do we now?

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What if I rejected evil communism?


I just was looking at your website, your defense of terrorism is pretty abhorrent.

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How so?

Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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How so?


Anybody who defends terrorism is an evil piece of scum that doesn't deserve any of the freedoms they have. How can you defend terrorists when they are responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people? You are an evil little man.

And I'm not that conservative.

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Anybody who defends terrorism is an evil piece of scum that doesn't deserve any of the freedoms they have. How can you defend terrorists when they are responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people? You are an evil little man.


It's not a defense, if you read I do not justify the acts, since it is my view that no ideology or opionion justifies killing, or even belief necessary to want to kill for it, be it a twisted interpretation of religion, a state or a system of government. I, for example, would only die for myself and those persons I love.

It is merely an explanation that does not resort to "terrorism is a terrible evil full stop", and a solution based upon that premise.

How am I evil? How am I little?

Cute photo, you should grow your hair!

Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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since it is my view that no ideology or opionion justifies killing, or even belief necessary to want to kill for it, be it a twisted interpretation of religion, a state or a system of government. I, for example, would only die for myself and those persons I love.


Do you think Al Qaeda must be wiped out? I agree there are other factors influencing Al Qaeda, like lack of education in the Arab world and the lack of common sense that terrorism solves nothing.

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Cute photo, you should grow your hair!


Yeah it is not bad... I am just showing you I'm not that clean cut conservative you try to make me out to be.

Oh and about growing out my hair.. keep dreaming.

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Do you think Al Qaeda must be wiped out? I agree there are other factors influencing Al Qaeda, like lack of education in the Arab world and the lack of common sense that terrorism solves nothing.


I think it should be destroyed but I don't think that people should die in doing so, save for point defnse, while the sociological causes of terrorism are addressed. It is my belief that there is a bloodless way to defeat terrorism.

Iraq, incidentally, was one of the most educated nations in the world until the UN sanctions. It's not down to education, or an endemic lack of common sense, rather, in such an extreme situation, people will resort to desperate measures, where even terrorism appears to be common sense. Twisted justification of religion, a chance to feel like one is doing something about the perceived oppression, as well as fullfilling some primal machovistic urge of honour. Make someone think they are under attack and they will willingly fight. A lesson from Goering that both the terrorists and the West have learned well.

Hehe, I don't think you're clean cut

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(Oh and regarding that quote in your sig, that was a mere typo)


You made a typo that got every digit wrong, and in a different order than they would normally be? Yeah, right!

Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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I think it should be destroyed but I don't think that people should die in doing so, save for point defnse, while the sociological causes of terrorism are addressed. It is my belief that there is a bloodless way to defeat terrorism.


I do not think we could defend against terrorism without going on an offense, and in that people will die. There is no way to defeat terrorism in my perspective except military action.

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people will resort to desperate measures, where even terrorism appears to be common sense.


We have different views on how to fix the situation. I think tanks and bomber aircraft should be sent in, then there should be a reconstruction to show we only mean good.

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Hehe, I don't think you're clean cut


Why so?

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You made a typo that got every digit wrong, and in a different order than they would normally be? Yeah, right!


Well it was late at night and I was watching TV... what can I say..

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We have different views on how to fix the situation. I think tanks and bomber aircraft should be sent in, then there should be a reconstruction to show we only mean good.


The trouble is that that will tend to strengthen the resolve of the one being bombed, escalating the problem. Since terrorism is a sociological phenomenon and not tactical, there is little tactical worth in bombing targets, except training camps and ammo dumps (that is really stupid thinking on the part of the terrorists). Most terrorist cells operate in their target nation, or at least the west, can make homemade explosives with weaponry kept at home. There isn't much an F15 can do with that. Sociology must be addressed with sociology (and its primal form, economics).

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We have different views on how to fix the situation. I think tanks and bomber aircraft should be sent in, then there should be a reconstruction to show we only mean good.


Ah! Benevolent hegemony. The trouble is that the issue of benovolence is questionable. I may act with what I think to be complete benevolence but another may disagree. For example, if I believed it was right to force you to join the communist party, I would think I was doing something benevolent but you would have an objection no?

At the end of the day, it leaves us with an equilibrium, that is either broken by "might makes right", which is a catch-22, or relativism and thus non-imposition. That's otherwise known as pacifism .

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Why so?


I can read your mind

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Well we can kill those who mean harm to the western civilization. I believe doing nothing and allowing the situation to get worse as you would like, is not an option.

You can't read my mind, dude. How can you read my mind from simple text?

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I'm afraid I'm going to have to bill y'all for your thread-jack. Think I can get Giancarlo a good gig as a court jester, though, if he needs help paying it off.

This is about me, remember? ^_^

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Well we can kill those who mean harm to the western civilization. I believe doing nothing and allowing the situation to get worse as you would like, is not an option.


The trouble is that by killing them, more spring up, so the only thing you achieve is a happy time for the ammo manufacturers. Force may be easier and more productive in the short term, but rarely, if ever is it a good thing in the long term. Of course, an electoral term counts as short term .

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You can't read my mind, dude. How can you read my mind from simple text?


Reading simple text is reading simple text.

Reading your mind is reading your mind. No, I'm wearing a jumper...

 
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