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VJ is offline VJ
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To help you fellows here to put your scores into perspective, here's my score:
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34 - Your score rates you as "non-homophobic."


And MENSA is mostly a spiritual masturbation club to people who have better logical skills than the mainstream, at least in this country.

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I got a "4". Occasional jokes with gay friends, and I have a light preference that my little girl ends up straight - it wouldn't be that big a thing, but I do have that emotional preference if I'm being honest. However, the high-grade part is actually about how much you care about the issues. A non-homophobe libertarian could score much better than a laid-back gay individual who doesn't "strongly" much of anything.

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I got 29.. non-homophobic.

BS test. I just didn't feel strongly about anything, except making jokes about gays. But hey, I make jokes about retards, fat people, foreign people, dead people, puppies in pain, sick babies and violence. So what. Stupid PC test I hate it and I feel angry already. The sky is red.....

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by the way does this now mean that I'm more homophobe than the people who got less than 10 and are highly non-homos? What's that? Highly non-homophobic. You either are or you're not, it's that simple. Just like being gay there is no bi and communist inventions like that. You either suck c.... or not.

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61 which seems to make me homophobic, which i don't think i am, anymore than the average person anyway

i think i feel down on the fact that gay is used as a an insult in my house and that i enjoy a joke. also like spiff i don't have any gay friends, apart from one girl who is bi (and who i do take the mickey out of ), and i'd be surprised to say the least if any of them said they were gay.

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Pekka, are you gay? Curious from the tenor of the rant there. If you are, you've made my point for me! Thanks.

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11. But this test doesn't seem to take into account a person who is gay taking the test, as I not only try to find out if some folks are gay, I make gay jokes and call friend "fags" when kidding around. I also answered a 3 for the "do gays deserve whay they get" question, because it's dumb. Deserve what? Good things or bad things? It doesn't seem to specify...

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shawnmmcc, not really. I have asked myself that question and I'm just plain ol' boring hetero. I just got mad because making jokes about gays is clearly a question which is negative if you do make jokes. I don't think that qualifies as a good question.

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Actually, there are several questions like that. You can be PC and score poorly, too. It's as much a test of your passion over the issues, which can come from a different basis than your sexual preference. Oncle Boris also nicely critiques how portions of it are silly for gays.

However, it WILL successfully measure homophobia. They feel passionately and will make extreme responses. Having argued with the resident homophobe at my work place - he would come close to maxing out. So the test works, but not for what it claims to measure.

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I dunno, something about the raccoon's vacant stare, as if it's caught in headlights, is quite appropriate.

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No it doesn't. The test is bad. Why should I be labeled as homophobic or non-homophobic anyway. I don't really think gay rights so much. I just think they like the same gender better. That's about it. So now this test asks me how do I feel about gays and little children? Why should I have an opininon about it? Disagree, Agree.. how about just 'yes, so? Ask the question?'. You know, and what does gay people deserve.. do they deserve what's coming at them.. what is coming at them? A meteor? I don't know what's coming at them.

Is homosexuality morally wrong... what kind of question is that anyway, Why should I have an opinion if it's moralyl wrong or not. It really doesn't concern me. If some people wants to be gays or do gay sex, it really isn't something for me to complain about, why would it bother me? It's just none of my business. Do I stronlgy disagree or agree.. I just don't plain care about it too much. Is Strongly Disagreeing that I'm there with guns to stop it, or Strongly agreeing that I want to join the lovemaking too with a videocamera? I just don't have a strong opinion about it, because I don't think it's any of my business.

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furthermore, I believe in individual rights. Not gay rights, individual rights. I think everyone should have the right to do what ever they want as long as it's not hurting anyone else. And if someone is doing something that I don't like myself, well.. if they're not hurting anyone, they should be able to do it without me being there with my finger pointing and being all 'stop it you stupidos'. I think there goes the line of what is someone elses business and what is not. It really doesn't effect me if two guys or more wants to have sex in their room. It really doesn't affect me and it's not my business or anyone elses business too.

Individual Rights is where its at, and everyone has them. It's like what is the proper term for black person, and then we can all get offended about it. Who cares, how about just Bill, Michael or what ever. Labeling people to blacks, gays, or anything is just not necessary all the time, and all these people should have their individual rights. I like mine and if someone has problems with my ways of living my life, too bad!!!

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14 here, would've been lower but I put 4's or 2's on a couple random questions.

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12... I agree with Boris, some of those questions were silly.

"I enjoy the company of gay people" Well, sure I do, but not any differently from straight people. Am I a homophobe when one gay person happens to be a moron?

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Uhhh... on second thought, edited the start of my post off.

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I also answered a 3 for the "do gays deserve whay they get" question, because it's dumb. Deserve what? Good things or bad things?

I answered 1, I think all people usually 'deserve' what they get. What a silly question.

Pekka:

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Jesus, Pekka, chill. We don't think you're anti-gay, ok? Relax!

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  Old Post 28-03-2004 20:11
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Same here.




Only gay people are allowed to do that. Just like only black people can call each other "nigger."

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No it's ok I'm angry at the test though. It's all this labeling. First of all it labels me for my lack of opinions. And really, if I want to be phobic to gays or black people or what ever I should just do that then, as long as I'm not going loud about it to the people who would then be offended. If I keep it as my own knowledge, it's not hurting anyone and thus it should be ok, if I'm not obstructing them. It doesn't mean anything, I don't put it to my CV or introduce myself "Hey, my name is Pekka and I'm non-homophobic". That would be just weird.

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They seem to have graded #20 wrongly. You only get a perfect score if you think homosexual behaviour should be against the law.

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And it's like this:

If I go and attack a gay person because he is gay, well that's illegal and I should be punished for it. Should I be punished more becase it was "a hate crime"? Why? Attacking is attacking and it's illegal no matter what the motivation was so no, I should get the same punishment as I'd be if I was beating retarded people because they're not so fast.

If I want to insult gay people, then that's just bad taste if it's totally uncalled for.

But other than that, this is just the way it is these days, you need to have an opinion about everything, before I didn't have an opinion and now I have to have so why is that. About PC crap, should I take these tests to see if I'm PC or not? SO what if I'm not politically correct who cares. Is it that there are rules how to feel about things, what is cool and what is not cool according to some people and then I should be alarmed because some over sensitive people think I might be little over the board? So what if I'm not breaking the law or showing bad taste, meaning everyone can go on about their business as usual without my obsturcting in any way. Why should I feel the same way like the sensitive PC guide line says I should feel? If I'm racist, then you know I'm racist and that's pretty much about it, nothing these tests can do to make me otherwise and plus they most likely diagnose people as racists and homophobics when they even aren't. Then they should feel bad about it? It's really very simple. If you hate someone because he is black, yellow or what not then you're racist. It's not a series of questions that decides it for you. If you hate gay people because they're gay, then you're anti-gay. It's very simple. To make it complicated like this just confuses people to think they are something they're not and it's just BS, and I don't know if it's because of lobbyists or over sensitive people.

The over sensitive people should be sensitive about my 0 sensitive feelings too and leave me alone.

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Don't be so sensitive, pekker.

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16 - Your score rates you as "high-grade non-homophobic."

Yaay! I'm more tolerant than Imran! Ha! Take that you wannabe shyster!

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Apparently there are a lot of "in-the-closet" types at poly. otw,

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I also answered a 3 for the "do gays deserve whay they get" question, because it's dumb. Deserve what? Good things or bad things? It doesn't seem to specify...


yep -- a bit confusing there

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Pekka, consistant stand . I DETEST hate crime legislation. If you have to increase the the penalty because it was a hate crime, then the penalty was to damn soft anyway. I truly believe in due process and innocent until proven guilty, but for crimes with victims, either fraud or violence, I subscribe to the preventative view - lock them up for a very long time.

I will disagree with you on one point. I really do believe that this test would measure homophobia, as I've said, I have a rabid one at work, plus a fundamentalist who knows they are all damned. They truly would answer some of those "silly" questions with extreme answers. They feel homosexuality is Morally wrong, that gay marraige is a threat to straight marraige (please, don't ask me to explain their line of reasoning, trying to get them to be logically consistant is an exercise in futility), that they are dangerous to little kids (a propoganda item that plays on US conservative radio shows conveniently ignoring the fact that it's little girls are at risk from male family members to a much greater degree rather than little boys from male homosexuals), that gays deserve whatever happens to them because as sinners they ask for it, etc.

The test really does measure this belief system. Do you and I find them ridiculous nearly to the point of disbelief? Yes. There are a couple of questions that are too PC, for example the jokes and the insult parts, but they really do measure some decent indicators. I live in the Bible Belt, and our state reprentatives are in the middle of pushing an amendment to our state constitution de facto banning gay marraige. Sadly, our voters will probably approve it.

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I am awfully surprised why I got a 4? I am stunned. I should get one because I'm totally non-homophobic. I don't get it.. I answered strongly favorably towards gays.


Don't worry too much about it. My gay friend got 12.

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shawnmmcc, yes maybe it works on some level. I don't know, I won't rule that possibility out. But why would you take this test, I think you already know where you stand so...

 
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