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VJ
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Helsinki
Dec 2001 time: 07:35
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To help you fellows here to put your scores into perspective, here's my score:
quote: 34 - Your score rates you as "non-homophobic." |
And MENSA is mostly a spiritual masturbation club to people who have better logical skills than the mainstream, at least in this country.
Last edited by VJ on 28-03-2004 at 19:27
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shawnmmcc
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Actually, there are several questions like that. You can be PC and score poorly, too. It's as much a test of your passion over the issues, which can come from a different basis than your sexual preference. Oncle Boris also nicely critiques how portions of it are silly for gays.
However, it WILL successfully measure homophobia. They feel passionately and will make extreme responses. Having argued with the resident homophobe at my work place - he would come close to maxing out. So the test works, but not for what it claims to measure.
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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002 time: 07:35
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furthermore, I believe in individual rights. Not gay rights, individual rights. I think everyone should have the right to do what ever they want as long as it's not hurting anyone else. And if someone is doing something that I don't like myself, well.. if they're not hurting anyone, they should be able to do it without me being there with my finger pointing and being all 'stop it you stupidos'. I think there goes the line of what is someone elses business and what is not. It really doesn't effect me if two guys or more wants to have sex in their room. It really doesn't affect me and it's not my business or anyone elses business too.
Individual Rights is where its at, and everyone has them. It's like what is the proper term for black person, and then we can all get offended about it. Who cares, how about just Bill, Michael or what ever. Labeling people to blacks, gays, or anything is just not necessary all the time, and all these people should have their individual rights. I like mine and if someone has problems with my ways of living my life, too bad!!!
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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002 time: 07:35
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And it's like this:
If I go and attack a gay person because he is gay, well that's illegal and I should be punished for it. Should I be punished more becase it was "a hate crime"? Why? Attacking is attacking and it's illegal no matter what the motivation was so no, I should get the same punishment as I'd be if I was beating retarded people because they're not so fast.
If I want to insult gay people, then that's just bad taste if it's totally uncalled for.
But other than that, this is just the way it is these days, you need to have an opinion about everything, before I didn't have an opinion and now I have to have so why is that. About PC crap, should I take these tests to see if I'm PC or not? SO what if I'm not politically correct who cares. Is it that there are rules how to feel about things, what is cool and what is not cool according to some people and then I should be alarmed because some over sensitive people think I might be little over the board? So what if I'm not breaking the law or showing bad taste, meaning everyone can go on about their business as usual without my obsturcting in any way. Why should I feel the same way like the sensitive PC guide line says I should feel? If I'm racist, then you know I'm racist and that's pretty much about it, nothing these tests can do to make me otherwise and plus they most likely diagnose people as racists and homophobics when they even aren't. Then they should feel bad about it? It's really very simple. If you hate someone because he is black, yellow or what not then you're racist. It's not a series of questions that decides it for you. If you hate gay people because they're gay, then you're anti-gay. It's very simple. To make it complicated like this just confuses people to think they are something they're not and it's just BS, and I don't know if it's because of lobbyists or over sensitive people.
The over sensitive people should be sensitive about my 0 sensitive feelings too and leave me alone.
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shawnmmcc
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Pekka, consistant stand . I DETEST hate crime legislation. If you have to increase the the penalty because it was a hate crime, then the penalty was to damn soft anyway. I truly believe in due process and innocent until proven guilty, but for crimes with victims, either fraud or violence, I subscribe to the preventative view - lock them up for a very long time.
I will disagree with you on one point. I really do believe that this test would measure homophobia, as I've said, I have a rabid one at work, plus a fundamentalist who knows they are all damned. They truly would answer some of those "silly" questions with extreme answers. They feel homosexuality is Morally wrong, that gay marraige is a threat to straight marraige (please, don't ask me to explain their line of reasoning, trying to get them to be logically consistant is an exercise in futility), that they are dangerous to little kids (a propoganda item that plays on US conservative radio shows conveniently ignoring the fact that it's little girls are at risk from male family members to a much greater degree rather than little boys from male homosexuals), that gays deserve whatever happens to them because as sinners they ask for it, etc.
The test really does measure this belief system. Do you and I find them ridiculous nearly to the point of disbelief? Yes. There are a couple of questions that are too PC, for example the jokes and the insult parts, but they really do measure some decent indicators. I live in the Bible Belt, and our state reprentatives are in the middle of pushing an amendment to our state constitution de facto banning gay marraige. Sadly, our voters will probably approve it.
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