14-06-2004 21:43									#61
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Thanks to everyone who posted screenies in my absence

	14-06-2004 22:32									#62
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree I'm thinking that if GWT moves in the Cats they will want to pound it a few turns before going in. GWT may figure that CGN has a **** load of units there...

Plus, it gives them a chance to get their GL to a point that will allow them to rush a GW, then to possibly get another one.

E_T

	15-06-2004 05:42									#63
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The latest. Micco is their last city on the continent.

	15-06-2004 06:02									#64
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Will they be able to last next turn?

	15-06-2004 06:08									#65
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Next turn? Sure. I assume they're going to be marching that SoD one tile at a time, since only the Ansars can go faster.

The turn after that, though, the attack commences. Micco will likely fall.

	15-06-2004 06:23									#66
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Two turns, crap
That doesn't bode well for the "plan"

	15-06-2004 06:37									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Kloreep Micco will likely fall.

Going out on a limb, there, eh Kloreep?

	15-06-2004 07:13									#68
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There's more than a few damaged units in that stack they have there. I'm surprised they didn't wait to heal them up before sending them in. I hope they decide to hold up there; but with them building a Galley it's likely they are trying to get some units out of there. Why is that? Why are they not building Spearmen?

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Who knows?

	15-06-2004 08:36									#70
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Short chat with Miccofl revealed that CGN wants to be able to "stay" at war with GWT even after Micco is gone. SO, they will be taking a unit or two along for the Galley ride so that CGN can't use the 5 turn rule to get peace from them. GWT will have to send many galleys to try and kill the GN Galley(s). Also trying to lift his spirits and keep them in this game.

Edit by Kloreep: Added log of chat before BF joined.

quote: Session Start: Mon Jun 14 19:48:59 2004 Session Ident: #isdg-embassy1 [18:58] * Now talking in #isdg-embassy1 [18:58] * Topic is 'Welcome' [18:58] * Set by ChanServ on Thu Apr 15 20:37:31 [18:58] [Kloreep] Hi [18:58] [miccofl] Hello [18:58] [miccofl] Please do not, repeat - do not send money back next turn. (Just in case we decide to make a stand at Micco instead of burning it.) [18:59] [miccofl] You can see why here http://www.civgaming.net/forums/sho...6839#post116839 [19:02] [Kloreep] k [19:02] [Kloreep] Though I don't really see the point of burning it [19:02] [Kloreep] You can't evacuate all of your units, can you? [19:02] [miccofl] would deny them a large city [19:02] [Kloreep] Or do you have enough galleys for that? [19:03] [miccofl] we can get two more muskets out next turn [19:03] [miccofl] sent a worker this turn too [19:04] [miccofl] repatriated from GWT [19:05] [Kloreep] Their Ansar are all that can reach you, though [19:05] [Kloreep] They may want to take another turn of approach [19:07] [miccofl] indeed, but they are at the end of the turn cycle [19:07] [Kloreep] ? [19:07] [miccofl] they will take that move this turn and attack on the next [19:07] [Kloreep] GG [19:07] [miccofl] later [19:15] * E_T has joined #isdg-embassy1 [19:15] * E_T is now known as E_T[APO-hangingout] [19:16] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] hey Micco, what did you mean by what you put in your e-mail, with the save [19:19] [miccofl] http://www.civgaming.net/forums/sho...6839#post116839 [19:20] [miccofl] they will be in range for the kill next turn [19:20] [miccofl] don't want them to get any gold if they take the city [19:20] [miccofl] or will the transaction occur before the end of the turn cycle? [19:21] [miccofl] sent you a worker [19:21] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] K, the diplo transaction takes place AT the begining of your turn [19:22] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] which is why we are doing this, so that your treasury is in Limbo, while they are attacking [19:22] [miccofl] ok, just wanted to be sure [19:22] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] so, it;s o.k. to send back to you?? [19:23] [miccofl] they have occupied resource tiles or taken over luxes and caused our cities to riot without us being able to make an adjustment and I wanted to be sure that wasn't going to happen with the gold [19:24] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] no, you only lose the gold if they take a city [19:24] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] BUT, their occupying of tiles WILL also effect your trade balance [19:25] [miccofl] well they are going to take micco not this turn but on the next [19:25] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] so, if your in Negative balance without any treasury, your going to lose units [19:25] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] supposidly, 1 per turn [19:27] [miccofl] hell, we may just load 2 more muskets on the galley building next turn and burn it [19:27] [miccofl] Micco, not the galley [19:28] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] actually, the longer you hold out, the better [19:28] [miccofl] either way I don't think we can hold vs that stack [19:29] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] no, but the longer that they stay down there.... [19:30] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] if they see you burn it that turn, then they leave immediately [19:30] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] whereas, if they stay down there, for even 1 turn.... [19:31] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] plus, we might get it back sometime in the future [19:31] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] or the people might revilt [19:31] [Kloreep] Back [19:31] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] *revolt [19:31] [Kloreep] E_T says it [19:31] [Kloreep] Holding their army down there is valuable [19:32] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] seriaoulsy, we really wish that you would have been able to hold out for longer than this, but it's seriously vital that you hold for as long as you can [19:32] [miccofl] well they are going to get a bare city when they do get it [19:32] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] that's o.k. [19:38] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] Oh, Micco, what are you building in Remembrance? [19:39] [miccofl] worker [19:39] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] change it to Barracks [19:39] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] that is, if it;s not too late [19:40] [miccofl] shouldn't be [19:40] [miccofl] until it is the capitol shields are corrupt [19:40] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] and it it isn't, replay and resend.... hehe [19:40] * conmcb25_away has joined #isdg-embassy1 [19:41] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] the barracks will be done faster than you think, and I have workers headed up there to take care of the area [19:41] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] hey Con, I hope your family is getting put back together, after your loss [19:41] [conmcb25_away] Yep they are [19:42] [conmcb25_away] The wife is still a basket case [19:42] [conmcb25_away] But that is to be expected [19:42] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] I thought she was, before that happened.... [19:42] [conmcb25_away] It actually became worse believe it or not [19:43] [conmcb25_away] Hey Miccofl [19:43] [miccofl] I'll change it next turn, should have 4 turns left [19:43] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] well, atleast he had lived a full life, from what I had read [19:43] [miccofl] hey conmcb25 [19:45] [conmcb25_away] Yep he was a dam great guy [19:45] [conmcb25_away] The dad I never had [19:45] [conmcb25_away] So how is CDG doing? [19:46] [conmcb25_away] CGN doing? [19:46] [conmcb25_away] I hear you guys are going to stick it out? [19:47] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] Con Voted Lucky as ******* of the year, after he got back, due to that "flower Basket" [19:48] [miccofl] sucks to be us [19:48] [conmcb25_away] Hopefully not forever..... [19:48] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] yes, we are working towards that *snip chit-chat* [19:59] [conmcb25_away] Sorry to disrupt the computer geeks but I just read the fruit basket thread. [19:59] [miccofl] they are expensive but it takes an act of Florida Flicker and Flash to bust one up [19:59] [conmcb25_away] What a bunch of dickheads [19:59] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] takes P3 - 133 and can go up to 1.5 Gig ram [20:00] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] Con, do you know what was really bad? [20:00] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] they e-mailed that to every CGN member [20:00] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] somehow [20:00] [miccofl] the turn goes out on auto-forward [20:01] [miccofl] as soon as it hits it goes out [20:01] [miccofl] they sent it to the turn address [20:01] [Kloreep] Just like the rockbandit address poly uses [20:02] [miccofl] let's just say that if Lucky ever lands within 100 miles of here I'm going trolling for gator *snip discussion of what to do with Lucky if he ventures near APO or CGN members* [20:46] [Kloreep] Miccofl, you still there/ [20:46] [Kloreep] ? [20:47] [miccofl] yep [20:47] [miccofl] in between PBEM's [20:47] [Kloreep] I'm not sure what the harm is in us sending you the money back [20:47] [Kloreep] You can just turn it down if you want [20:47] [Kloreep] Will you have a positive GPT? [20:47] [miccofl] only 9 [20:48] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] No, it will be o.k., you souldn;t lose it [20:48] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] what is your maintainace cost? [20:48] [miccofl] more than 9 [20:48] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] unit and maintainance cost that is [20:49] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] if anything, we can send that plus 10 back, just to make sure your covered [20:49] [miccofl] 31 [20:49] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] that and any lux slider amount [20:49] [miccofl] total expenses [20:50] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] don;t count the corruption, just unit & maintainance & Lux [20:51] [miccofl] 29 [20:51] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] well send you an even 40 back [20:51] [miccofl] so we need 20 back [20:56] [E_T[APO-hangingout]] if you go into civil disorder, then you;ll need more

quote: 8:35 PM 6/14/2004 Session Start: Mon Jun 14 19:18:26 2004 Session Ident: #isdg-embassy1 [19:18:26] * [19:18:26] * Now talking in: (#isdg-embassy1) [19:18:26] * [19:18:26] * Topic: (Welcome) [19:18:26] * Set by: (ChanServ) on (Thursday April 15 2004 18:37:31) [19:18:26] * Users: (5), Ops: (1/20%), Halfops: (0/0%), Voiced: (0/0%), Regs: (4/80%) [19:18:26] * Join synced in: (0.031) secs [19:18:26] * [19:18:46] * BigFree|Away is back after 20s: auto-away after 30m idle [19:18:46] * You are no longer marked as being away on (civgaming.net) [19:18:46] * You are no longer marked as being away on (civgaming.net) [19:18:58] * BigFree|Away is now known as BigFree [20:01:25] BigFree} Hey miccofl [20:02:19] miccofl} what's up? [20:05:14] BigFree} no too much [20:05:23] BigFree} just seeing if you're hanging out or not [20:05:35] BigFree} wait, i guess I do have a questioon [20:05:42] miccofl} won't be for much longer [20:05:48] BigFree} are you guys really building a Galley in Micco? [20:05:54] miccofl} yes [20:06:05] BigFree} why not a spear? [20:06:16] BigFree} are you taking units away from there? [20:06:22] BigFree} heading overseas? [20:06:26] miccofl} what's the point [20:06:27] miccofl} yep [20:07:05] BigFree} Wel, we thought that the more units that GWT has to use to take out Micco, then that;'s less units we have to kill later [20:07:26] BigFree} And the less units we have to kill, the faster CGN is returned to it's homeland [20:07:35] BigFree} That i the plan BTW [20:07:37] BigFree} *is [20:08:03] BigFree} We ar not going to be any bit satisfied just having CGN in a small corner over here [20:08:22] BigFree} CFC will be working with us in order to achieve this [20:08:36] BigFree} It is doable [20:09:00] BigFree} we have already got a pretty good tech lead on them [20:09:51] BigFree} Imagine our alliance with marines and Tanks at least 20 turns beofre they can muster tanks [20:10:01] BigFree} We will wipe their asses then [20:10:28] BigFree} Rifflemen will be no help to them [20:11:19] BigFree} I know it's not pretty; but wouldn't a reborn CGN be better than just a dead CGN? [20:11:20] miccofl} but if we can demonstrate that we have loaded galleys lurking nearby their cities we can stay at war [20:11:28] BigFree} true [20:11:34] BigFree} that keep sthe WW going [20:11:52] BigFree} we need to get those galleys upgraded though [20:12:02] BigFree} we need to have a plann for that [20:12:48] E_T[APO-hangingout]} well, thing is, getting them across the ocean [20:12:57] E_T[APO-hangingout]} they do have 3 over here now [20:13:27] E_T[APO-hangingout]} and I'm already got plans for Harbors in Maritainia and Cyrene [20:13:33] BigFree} right, so we wait till you have Navigation for that part [20:13:42] E_T[APO-hangingout]} and they really won;t take that long, either [20:14:28] E_T[APO-hangingout]} the other 2, well we have already given education to CFC, and astro this turn and Nav in 2 turn [20:14:56] E_T[APO-hangingout]} even with GWT's reduced output, we still don;t want to give them any advantage [20:15:31] E_T[APO-hangingout]} and the longer they have to go to get to Astro/Nav, the better off we will be, to get our stuff ready [20:15:32] BigFree} They have to be going Chem at 40 turn pace [20:15:51] BigFree} Also, we do have some good news of sort. [20:15:53] E_T[APO-hangingout]} yeah, as GCA just now got theo [20:16:26] Kloreep} Miccofl, a request on the save: [20:16:34] Kloreep} Could you please make sure you send to the following addresses? [20:16:35] BigFree} Ti looks like GCA now has Theology, which enables GWT to build Sistines with that GL they got. Which means they will not have a GL to rebuid the FP we will destoy. [20:16:40] Kloreep} civ@mzocentral.net [20:16:45] Kloreep} arnelos@aol.com [20:16:48] Kloreep} ben@surveypoint.com [20:16:57] Kloreep} And apolytonisdg@rockbandit.net [20:19:13] BigFree} I promise that if you guys can continue on and fight the good fight; that APO and CFC will do everything to get CGN back into their homeland ASAP. [20:19:32] BigFree} The lines for alliances have been long drawn [20:19:45] BigFree} CGN has the ability to be reborn [20:19:51] * Disconnected [20:21:19] * Attempting to rejoin channel #isdg-embassy1 [20:21:19] * [20:21:19] * Now talking in: (#isdg-embassy1) [20:21:19] * [20:21:19] * Topic: (Welcome) [20:21:19] * Set by: (ChanServ) on (Thursday April 15 2004 18:37:31) [20:21:19] * Users: (4), Ops: (0/0%), Halfops: (0/0%), Voiced: (0/0%), Regs: (4/100%) [20:21:19] * Join synced in: (0.047) secs [20:21:19] * [20:21:49] * conmcb25 (conmcb25@civ-25D00EA5.smithvilledsl.net) Quit (Connection reset by peer) [20:22:06] * Kloreep (ben@civ-3A555BA1.cable.mindspring.com) Quit (Connection reset by peer) [20:22:14] * miccofl (Micco@civ-8D9A6B6.se.client2.attbi.com) has joined #isdg-embassy1 [20:22:14] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq miccofl miccofl [20:22:28] * Kloreep (ben@civ-3A555BA1.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #isdg-embassy1 [20:23:05] miccofl} I added the one address and redid the others as they don't seem to be sending [20:23:25] miccofl} and I need to get to bed, early day tomorrow [20:23:27] BigFree} cool [20:23:31] BigFree} adios [20:23:45] BigFree} did you see my last? [20:23:53] BigFree} [20:19:13] BigFree} I promise that if you guys can continue on and fight the good fight; that APO and CFC will do everything to get CGN back into their homeland ASAP. [20:23:53] BigFree} [20:19:32] BigFree} The lines for alliances have been long drawn [20:23:53] BigFree} [20:19:45] BigFree} CGN has the ability to be reborn [20:24:15] BigFree} anyways, see you later. [20:24:34] miccofl} didn't get that before, thanks and later [20:24:42] BigFree} [20:25:08] Kloreep} Thanks for redoing the addresses [20:25:09] Kloreep} Night

	15-06-2004 09:05									#71
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Chats need to go in the FA corrospondence topped thread guys.

And then we can discuss in the appropriate individual civ FA thread.

My apologizes for being a stickler on this but its a heck of a lot easier to keep track of corrospondence with other civs that way.

	15-06-2004 10:32									#72
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Heh, I only just noticed BF didn't post this in correspondance. (Yes, I'm blaming him. It's called delegating. )

Re-posting in correspondance.

	22-06-2004 06:27									#73
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Note: I've omitted a screenshot of Remembrance, as all it shows that we don't know is that it's working on barracks (but has no completion date) but grows in one turn.