31-03-2004 11:49									#31
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quote: If I read the FAQ correctly, you can wire money instead of using a credit card.

quote: You'll be needing a credit card.

	31-03-2004 12:49									#32
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I want in - will send e-mail now

thanks Markus

	31-03-2004 14:24									#33
	Put an end to popups!

Ok, it's not just me - I also keep getting access forbidden pages.

	31-03-2004 14:53									#34
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG - Payment is in US Dollars but that's not an issue(i just used my greek bank visa to make a test payment)

That IS an issue as some banks are applying a flat rate to convert € into another money and it is sometimes quite high. I have to check with my bank before.

Rasbelin: if there is no problem with my bank I will gladly do the middleman for you...

	31-03-2004 16:12									#35
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Tamerlin,

thanks very much for the kind offer! I'll be waiting for Markos to respond, so that I know if he accepts me for beta testing. I'll send you a PM about the arrangement. As for the convert rate, I think it's a little below 1€ with a typical credit card rate. So doesn't differ much from the actual exchange rate.

	31-03-2004 16:38									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin That IS an issue as some banks are applying a flat rate to convert € into another money and it is sometimes quite high. I have to check with my bank before. Rasbelin: if there is no problem with my bank I will gladly do the middleman for you...

I have been charged 0.85 € according to PayPal. I'm at the Caisse d'Epargne, which is far from the best with international payments. I'll tell you how much I paid in the end.

	31-03-2004 16:39									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Rasbelin Tamerlin, thanks very much for the kind offer! I'll be waiting for Markos to respond, so that I know if he accepts me for beta testing. I'll send you a PM about the arrangement. As for the convert rate, I think it's a little below 1€ with a typical credit card rate. So doesn't differ much from the actual exchange rate.

I am not sure, my bank is a former local one and is not well known for its international management skill, I know that some users in France have experienced some problems and I would prefer not to have a bad surprise. I am about to give a phone call and while you wait you can find my e-mail address in my user's profile.

	31-03-2004 16:58									#38
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OK, I have checked with my bank, there are two things when I pay in $:

- a 1€ flat rate
- a variable fee of 2.15% based on the overall cost

There is nor a flat rate nor a fee when the payment is made in € provided the sums are deducted in Europe. It means that even if I pay in € I could have to pay the flat rate and the fee if the payment is done outside the European Community (as somewhere in the process the sum is converted into $). This is something to consider for the future. Is the payment made in Greece (or elsewhere in the EC) or in the USA?

Whatever, I will contact MarkG today and arrange a payment for both of us.



Note: as some users have experienced some troubles because they didn't have a PayPal account I don't know when we will be able to use the "ad-free" options... I will let you know.

Last edited by Tamerlin on 31-03-2004 at 18:50

	31-03-2004 18:28									#39
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BTW, the "forum jump" bar is now fixed. The staff forum and Candle'bre private forum also don't show up anymore in the forum index.

	31-03-2004 18:46									#40
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i needed to take the system offline

it's back now

please dont publicize the url for now

thank you all for your support!


now, on the "credit card only issue"
it goes without saying(more or less) that if you already a paypal account that you can add funds without a credit card(example: bank account), then yes, you dont need a credit card

	31-03-2004 18:52									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin OK, I have checked with my bank, there are two things when I pay in $: - a 1€ flat rate - a variable fee of 2.15% of the overall cost There is nor a flat rate nor a fee when the payment is made in € provided the sums are deducted in Europe. It means that even if I pay in € I could have to pay the flat rate and the fee if the payment is done outside the European Community (as somewhere in the process the sum is converted into $). This is something to consider for the future. Is the payment made in Greece (or elsewhere in the EC) or in the USA?

hmmm i will look into adding payments in euro

	31-03-2004 18:54									#42
	Re: ApolytonPLUS: now in Beta! Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote: Originally posted by MarkG i'm happy to announce that ApolytonPLUS,

ApolytonPLUS sounds like a forum for tall and fat people.

Email sent.

	31-03-2004 18:58									#43
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG hmmm i will look into adding payments in euro

Thanks MarkG, I have sent you a mail and I am now waiting for your reply.

	31-03-2004 19:04									#44
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I just had my first popup, the "gambling search results" one, while browsing a thread in the community forum (no other website open whatsoever).

	31-03-2004 19:04									#45
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG hmmm i will look into adding payments in euro

That would eb really great

	31-03-2004 19:10									#46
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on external links: it should work right but now you PLUS members dont even get the go.php in forum urls

	31-03-2004 19:15									#47
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Well - I'm in for the princely sum of GBP 0.56 - no problems with that - but - on the main forum page there is a right hand side bar advert for Ladbrooks.

Cheers Mark & Dan - I shall be taking out the life subscription.

Stu

	31-03-2004 19:16									#48
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Long Live 'Polly

	31-03-2004 19:20									#49
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

There is a small google ad for Civ (acceptable to me) on the Civ2 Succession Games News page and two ads one the google ad again on the Moderate pending news page.

Stu

	31-03-2004 19:27									#50
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Hooray, testing even as I type this!

	31-03-2004 19:37									#51
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG on external links: it should work right but now you PLUS members dont even get the go.php in forum urls

It works perfectly. I won't fear opening links anymore. Hooray!

	31-03-2004 19:53									#52
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Hooray!
Now, an external link to test.
* Skanky Burns spots Spiff's sig.
EDIT: Discovers they are all links back to Apolyton.

	31-03-2004 20:12									#53
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euro payments will wait until we do some changes in our paypal profile

still, my personal paypal page says that for my test payment i was charged 0.85 euro, not 1$. as i understand(reading the paypal help pages as well), paypal changes the user's currency(and probably charges us a few cents on the dollar) before charging the user.

so, Tamerlin, i believe your bank wont even know $ was involved, and i ask you to go ahead and try out the purchase as it is. if your bank charges you an extra euro for your 1$ payment, i'll match it with an extra month (and 2.15% of a month)

	31-03-2004 20:12									#54
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Alright, I just sent $1 to Dan via Paypal.

	31-03-2004 20:14									#55
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I changed my style to Default-CtP2, and there's a banner at the bottom of the page.

	31-03-2004 20:22									#56
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quote: I changed my style to Default-CtP2, and there's a banner at the bottom of the page.

it's a cookie issue, but you can change to Default-Ultra Special-CtP2 which doesnt have the footer ad anyway

	31-03-2004 20:24									#57
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Are these cookie issues too?

- In Default-Special and Default-Ultra-Special: There's a vertical banner on the forum index page.
- In Light: There's a banner at the bottom of the page.

	31-03-2004 20:25									#58
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So far my experiences have been good. Default Ultra Special style. Redirects don't have the inbetween ads, larger avatar size works fine (haven't tested byte limit yet, its on the to-do list somwhere), no banners or popups. Hooray!

	31-03-2004 20:26									#59
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG euro payments will wait until we do some changes in our paypal profile

quote: so, Tamerlin, i believe your bank wont even know $ was involved, and i ask you to go ahead and try out the purchase as it is. if your bank charges you an extra euro for your 1$ payment, i'll match it with an extra month (and 2.15% of a month)

No problem, I am ready to test Apolyton PLUS even if I have to use Uncle Sam's virtual money.

I am waiting for the mysterious link...

Remember I would like to pay for Rasbelin, it would be great if I could do it at the same time.

	31-03-2004 20:27									#60
	Put an end to popups!

On ordinary default, the banner at the bottom remains, but it disappeared after I switched to default ultra special.