11-04-2004 16:42									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Frankychan Good tips, but I need more!

That`s it! First Ouro, then Franky! If someone else requests tips I am starting a thread "Tips for playing Gaian".

	11-04-2004 19:46									#32
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Peacekeepers rule. Get the Weather SP and pop boom to size 9.

	11-04-2004 20:48									#33
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About 85 to 90% of the time, I'll play as the research-heavy University. During most of the other 10 to 15%, I'll occasionally play as the Morganites, Peacekeepers, Gaians, Cyborgs, Usurpers, or a custom faction that is very much like the University. Every once in a great while, I'll consider one of the other factions, like maybe the Pirates, but the Believers I wouldn't dare play at. The Caretakers I also prefer not to play as because they can't transcend.

	11-04-2004 20:49									#34
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Any and all. They all have there nuances in order to be played to their potential. The fun is finding them. Learn to play one faction properly then move on to the next faction.

Prolly my fav factions now are Fungus Boy, Sparta, and Believers.

	12-04-2004 01:41									#35
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quote: Originally posted by obstructor That`s it! First Ouro, then Franky! If someone else requests tips I am starting a thread "Tips for playing Gaian".

Ok, ok. I'll stop.

	12-04-2004 02:49									#36
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I play a relatively nasty and virulent version of the Gaians: fear my Very Green Scout Rovers! Fear them, I say!


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	12-04-2004 03:00									#37
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VGSR-PB?

	12-04-2004 03:20									#38
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder VGSR-PB?

Well, OK, maybe not that virulent.

I wonder what kind of application a rover PB would have, anyways....

btw, hows that Scenario of yours coming along, GeoModder?


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	12-04-2004 10:19									#39
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hmm, just started a game as the believers. I must say I'm impressed. Why waste time developing land and bases when you can just take what you want +25% on attack just screams for takeover.

Maybe I was lucky. I started next to the university. They were easy pickings. I quickly stole my way up to gatling lasers then laid waste to them. The bonus to probe helps out here. I went fundamentalist of course.

But get this. Even my laser rovers were successful against them. That's what high morale and +25% on attack will do for ya.

If it weren't for the godawful color and faction leader picture, I think I would have a new favourite faction.

I do like builder factions as I said above. But I have a new found respect for the attackers like the believers.

	12-04-2004 23:06									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Frankychan Is there something wrong with this statement?

Oh yea, I was thinking about the same thing when I read that post.

Back on topic I've only played Gaians and Hive. Hubby plays the boss who tells me when to stop playing.

And tips for Gaians? Yes I'd like to see that too.

	13-04-2004 01:31									#41
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Oh boy, freebie post

I prefer the Drones, Uni, PK and the CyC.

When I started playing I loved the Spartans cause I LOOOOVE extortion

	13-04-2004 02:47									#42
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now I need to play the spartans. But that -1 industry scares me.

Because really the believers seem to be the best warring factions. I'm so impressed with them now.

I love miriam

	13-04-2004 07:19									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident hmm, just started a game as the believers. I must say I'm impressed. Why waste time developing land and bases when you can just take what you want +25% on attack just screams for takeover. Maybe I was lucky. I started next to the university. They were easy pickings. I quickly stole my way up to gatling lasers then laid waste to them. The bonus to probe helps out here. I went fundamentalist of course. But get this. Even my laser rovers were successful against them. That's what high morale and +25% on attack will do for ya. If it weren't for the godawful color and faction leader picture, I think I would have a new favourite faction. I do like builder factions as I said above. But I have a new found respect for the attackers like the believers.

Yep believers rule in early rush. Your kind of screwed though if you are on an island with no one to conquer or even probe.

Thats one of the reasons why Spartans are a good next choice for conquering. You are one tech away from D:Flex if you get stuck on an island.

	13-04-2004 09:04									#44
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yeah I would have been hurting if I had been on an island. I chose intermediate water (the middle setting) this game. Standard sized map. I started near the gaians, and fairly close to the University. U.N. was crammed in south of the University and the Spartans were way to the north east beyond an isthmus.

speaking of. I did try a map of planet the other day. But I'm not a big fan of that map.

edit: well I finished this game. I must say I love the believers

Being a conquerer is much better for my lower attention span . I started a game the other day as the peacekeepers, but I haven't finished it. The peacekeepers are so boring. And I hate it when I get double votes yet I still can't get elected planetary governor .

Plus I'm hooked on standard sized maps now. Large and huge maps just take too long.

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	13-04-2004 11:24									#45
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PeaceKeepers Often
Belivers/Spartans Rarly
All others Ocasionaly

	13-04-2004 12:41									#46
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The Human Hive, the United Nation's Peacekeepers (although I rename them - damn improper terminology!), and the Cybernetic Consciousness most of all; I play the Gaians and the University occassionally and I am looking forward to getting my computer back from the customs officials and playing around with the Nautilus Pirates and the Believers.

	15-04-2004 01:48									#47
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The Lord's Believers is my favorite faction (just love that fanatical attack bonus :-) ), but I like to play them all, each faction have it's strength and it's weakneses, and I would love to know them all.

	15-04-2004 01:52									#48
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Anybody plays Data Angels often?

	15-04-2004 02:33									#49
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I played Data Angels once and I really enjoyed it - loads of fun IMHO

	15-04-2004 02:38									#50
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Interesting. I love playing the believers in a deep builder stance. +2 support means an absolute army of formers, which quickly makes -2 research a nothing. If anyone does attack then +25% attack = dead attackers. The +1 probe is largly irrelivent, since I like to send out lots of probes anyway.

Also enjoy playing Morgan and the PK's. I used to like the uni, but now, I just find them somewhat boring. They seem to have no real flavour to them.

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	15-04-2004 05:39									#51
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I like playing Cult of Planet. Anybody have any good tips for playing as them?

	15-04-2004 05:54									#52
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More Believers comments....

....Just started another game with them (my past one was going HORRENDOUSLY BAD). This one is much better. I had the University plop next to me, and I immediately sent in 7 scout units to try and conquer them. Zakharov saw this and quickly went submissive. Unfortunately, Lal is on his other side, so we've been trading blows with one another while trying to not get the University involved.

The only thing I still don't like about them is the fact that you have to wait FOREVER to get probes....but once you do, oh-boy!

As for the Gaians, I find that they are one of the fastest factions to grow (pop-wise). I think they are on par (if not surpass) the Hive in growth. Their "green-thumb" must really help them out cause when I encounter them, they have really large bases, and a lot too, compared to my many small bases. But my military is better.

I tend to favor conquer factions, with builder's coming in just a little behind them. That's why I like the Hive, they are both of my 2 favorite things.

Bingo-sorry, I haven't played SMAX in a very long time.....

	15-04-2004 05:59									#53
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I dont like the angels too much, dont know how to play then well, and when I try to blame another faction for my probe actions I am usually caught

Since I dont like to restart and probe again "until I suceed" because I dont like to cheat, so I end with Roze in front of a computer trying to use Kazaa to download the techs from the University

Bingo
About the Cult, well I trying to play then in a recent PBEM, but all the times I tried playing then in single mode, that -1 ECO and -1 IND were really bad to deal. But with Green Economy you get worms that are 40% stronger. Try to build and concentrate on Centauri Preserves and other +1 LIFECYCLE improvements and SP as soon as you get then. The Cult definitively isnt a tech or build-faction. I see then as the "Spartans of Fungus". So, while the spartans focus on conquer techs to improve morale, the Cult must focus on explore techs to improve lifecycle. Well, I dont have all that experience with then anyway, but I hope that you can use some advice.

If you like the planet bonuses but prefer build-oriented factions, try the Gaians intead.

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	15-04-2004 06:16									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Cosmic Since I dont like to restart and probe again "until I suceed" because I dont like to cheat, so I end with Roze in front of a computer trying to use Kazaa to download the techs from the University

	15-04-2004 07:50									#55
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Thanks for the advice, Cosmic. Yeah, that's pretty much what I've been doing, focusing on the lifecycle base structures and explore techs. Right now I'm just trying to figure out if a psi-based military is feasible.

The free brood pits is really a good deal, because when you have them the Cult basically gain a +2 police rating, and since it makes the mind worms 25% cheaper that negates the -1 industry somewhat.

	15-04-2004 10:56									#56
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Often:
Zak - research
Morgan - economy
Dee - pop booms
Yang - ICS
Aki - Free Market + 100% labs
Domai - industry

Sometimes:
Lal - kind of boring
Svensgaard - unique, but difficult

Rarely:
Roze - not real into the probing
Fungboy - low industry and economy, ick
Aliens - aliens
Miriam - don't like the ideology, not real fond of -2 research either
Santi - low industry

	15-04-2004 14:35									#57
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Sometimes I just snicker whenever I see that "not real into the probing."

	15-04-2004 23:58									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Cosmic Since I dont like to restart and probe again "until I suceed" because I dont like to cheat

Don't worry, most newer turn base games save the "seed" that generates the psuedo-random numbers that determine success or failure. So no matter how many times you reload, you will get the same results. Making cheating by this method theoretically impossible....of course there are ways, they are just not as obvious.

	16-04-2004 11:44									#59
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oh goodie. my SMAC expansion just arrived.

I'm tryint to decide which new factions to play. decisions decisions.

	16-04-2004 19:49									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Barinthus I played Data Angels once and I really enjoyed it - loads of fun IMHO

Thinking about joining the ACDG DA team then?