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Skanky Burns is offline Skanky Burns
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We need to decide who our private forum moderator is, too.
Operating under the standard no self-nominating rule, I hereby nominate Jamski for the position.

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I nominate Met...

oh, wait

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"Thank's Skanky", he says, returning the compliment.

(That was a nomination for Skanky)

You should vote for him anyway - I'm going to be a bit... distracted...

-Jam

Last edited by Jamski on 11-06-2004 at 15:36

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hi if someone could PM me the private forum details that was be ace.
Also if my name isn't ticked off on the roll call:
Here i am captain
ready to kill :

Skanky Burns is offline Skanky Burns
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Spartans, could you please check the secret command center? There's a message waiting.

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"You there - Private "

*squints at his namebadge*

"Private Slick. Enough sitting in the barracks polishing your rifle. There have reports of Gaian activity on the southern perimeter of the base. Investigate, and bring me back the heads of any non-Spartans."

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Skanky, I see your internal rate of communication is slow, if it took you so much time. Nice thing to remember for next ACDG

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That was just a bump, basically.

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Provincial Survivalists Constitution:
- All Citizens have the right to bear arms.
- All Citizens have the right to take part in all faction decisions.
- All Spartans may become a Citizen either by completing 5 years of military service, or by being retired wounded during that period, when they shall be promoted to officer rank.
- All Spartans may take part in voting.
- All government officials are to be serving officers of the Spartan Milita with at least 5 years service.
- All ranks of Lieutenant and above (i.e. Spartan Officers) are elected ranks. All promotions and demotions are by election by the Citizens.
- No Spartan, Citizen, Soldier or worker is to be denied access to faction information.
- Millitary law is above all other laws, civil, moral and constitutional.
- No Spartan may surrender in battle and retain his/her rights as a Citizen.


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Proposal of Spartan Structure

We should aim for a decentralised "spiderweb" government, not a "tree" or "column" structure.

In the middle should go the turnplayer of the moment.

All around him/her should be other posts that feed information into the centre of the web. The turnplayer should have no responsibilities to gather info, just to eat it, plan the turn and spit out the reports.
The "strands" of the web have the job of organising polls, elections, policy decisions, tech progress, SE settings, base placement, terraforming etc. Noone should be fixed in a post, but everyone should try and help each other out to give the turnplayer as much info as possible.

Anyone can be the leader - and we should regularly select a new one.


Available official positions in the Spartan War Machine:
The Turnplayer - Commander in Chief which can be shortenend to CiC
The person to authorise others into our forum - Director of Domestic Operations or Quartermaster
A person who is the "official" contact point with other factions - Minister of Propaganda.

Due to the military nature of our faction, it would probably be best if all position titles could be converted into TLAs.

Commander in Chief seems to be well accepted by now. I suggest we keep it.
The CiC will have the rank of Colonel (ie: Colonel Maniac or Colonel Jamski)
The 2iC will have the rank of Lt.Col.

While Quartermaster suits, it doesn't lend itself to shortening very well. QM to my mind sounds too similar to GM or DM.
DDO seems ok, but I would like to see the first initial as A or I. If we could think of something appropriate that started with either letter...

Minister of Propaganda sounds fine. That is, until you TLA it into MoP. Which may be appropriate considering the military view of the media. :shrug:

Googlie is offline Googlie
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Googlie reporting for duty - where do I sign up?

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[SIZE=1] Originally posted by Skanky Burns [/SIZE
Due to the military nature of our faction, it would probably be best if all position titles could be converted into TLAs.


There's too many TLA's in the world if you ask me...

(acting)CEO Chaunk

Kassiopeia is offline Kassiopeia
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Welcome Googlie, you already have.

Should we discuss the way we deal out the positions within the war machine in the non-Poly private forum, or wait 'til we get our Poly privat forum, or just talk about it here openly? It would appear that only Maniac and I are reading the non-Poly forum.

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Welcome Googlie.

quote:
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Should we discuss the way we deal out the positions within the war machine in the non-Poly private forum,


If you mean how to decide who gets what position, I'd simply say: "Whoever is interested, gets it." In ACDG2 we never had two candidates for the same position. It just went informally like "You want that position this month? Okay I'll take the other one then instead. " If there are multiple candidates, we can always hold a small poll.

If you mean about the names for the positions, there have already been many many proposals for that. So I'd just wait until we have a private forum. Then we can hold a poll about it with all options in it.

There's of course the question what position to have.

IIRC Skanky wants to limit it to the turnplayer, the faction moderator and an official foreign ambassador. I wouldn't mind creating two extra positions whose job it would be to organize internal affairs and military affairs and turn all the discussions into a formal orderset, but either is fine for me.

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I'm basing the positions made on the preliminary constitiution / government structure Jam posted in this thread which no-one objected to. I'm fine with any changes to this structure, which is partly why I called for discussing these items here.

Organisational and roleplaying discussion here should be fine, everything else to wait for our private forum or using the current secret barracks.

quote:
Originally posted by Jamski
Provincial Survivalists Constitution:
- All Citizens have the right to bear arms.
- All Citizens have the right to take part in all faction decisions.
- All Spartans may become a Citizen either by completing 5 years of military service, or by being retired wounded during that period, when they shall be promoted to officer rank.
- All Spartans may take part in voting.
- All government officials are to be serving officers of the Spartan Milita with at least 5 years service.
- All ranks of Lieutenant and above (i.e. Spartan Officers) are elected ranks. All promotions and demotions are by election by the Citizens.
- No Spartan, Citizen, Soldier or worker is to be denied access to faction information.
- Millitary law is above all other laws, civil, moral and constitutional.
- No Spartan may surrender in battle and retain his/her rights as a Citizen.



Proposal of Spartan Structure

We should aim for a decentralised "spiderweb" government, not a "tree" or "column" structure.

In the middle should go the turnplayer of the moment.

All around him/her should be other posts that feed information into the centre of the web. The turnplayer should have no responsibilities to gather info, just to eat it, plan the turn and spit out the reports.
The "strands" of the web have the job of organising polls, elections, policy decisions, tech progress, SE settings, base placement, terraforming etc. Noone should be fixed in a post, but everyone should try and help each other out to give the turnplayer as much info as possible.

Anyone can be the leader - and we should regularly select a new one.

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Googlie reporting for duty - where do I sign up?


Welcome to the mighty Spartan empire. PM sent.
You are now on our list of citizens.

Googlie is offline Googlie
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And if you haven't read the book, here's a brief summary and debunking of some of the negative myths surrounding it and the movie

G.

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The film was god awful, a sham compared to the novel.

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The film was a parody, and a movie so bad that it looped back to being good. If you look at it as a bad film, it is a great bad film.

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The film was god awful, a sham compared to the novel.

Very true, even as it is not totally unwatchable.
BTW, which one of you is black?

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Googlie is...

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I so like all the defections.

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quote:
Originally posted by obstructor
BTW, which one of you is black?


That's camouflage paint.

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I so like all the defections.


Some people seem to have a hard time finding a new place to roam as they please...

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No they just have a generous heart that wants to look after every one.

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Have a look at the new Barracks at Fort Superiority - directions how to get there are pinned to the notice board in the mess tent at the old barracks at Sparta Command

Leave your comments at either

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Why the hell not?
* Enigma_Nova drags his battle-hardened ass in here

I have not survived the tragedy of earth only to fall on planet!
I have no intention of being sold to the highest bidder,
Dancing naked through my future graveyard,
or being probed agressively and repeatedly... sir.

A great opportunity to un-annoy the people that shouldn't have been annoyed in the first place.
I the command structure.
Now we don't have 4 different people for 4 different (and interrelated) areas creating an inefficient plan,
we have 1 person making decisions on information packaged by 3 others.

I'd... like authorisation to whatever forum we are attending,
and don't tell me we're last in the turn order. >_<''
...sir...

EDIT: and since I can't be bothered to read 16 pages, do we have a set of important links for the Spartan Federation?

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quote:
Originally posted by Skanky Burns
Spartan RollCall List

etc
etc

For any corrections, PM me or post in this thread.
If you wish to join the glorious Spartan nation, again PM me or post in this thread.
For the location of our secret temporary field command center (our private forum), PM me.

AT EASE, SOLDIERS.


You're missing Barinthus

 
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