02-05-2004 14:09									#31
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So we use CivDip instead of talking with what would be an AI (because it loads like a normal SP game, I assume)

	02-05-2004 17:03									#32
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Yes, GoPostal we can use my utility

Mi MSN is dejamk@hotmail.NOSPAM.com

without the NOSPAM, of course

So everyone is invited to contact for

1) Preparing the war against Germany

2) Any help with PBEMs or CivDip3.0 I can give

	02-05-2004 18:41									#33
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quote: Originally posted by GoPostal Yes, so Kobra, please start the game. Also, this is my first PBEM, I have read the idiot's guide at the top, anything else I need to know?

Wait a minute! Are there any open season events for this scen? For a PBEM that is imo a must. If not the events will decide according to real history when nationas declare war on one another and so on, even if say the Italian player chooses to be on the central side.

	02-05-2004 19:57									#34
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The war events seem to be randomized. I say keep them. The scenario is supposed to mimic the worldwide situation during WW1 anyways, and really, if two players don't want a war then that can be resolved by not attacking or making peace right off the bat. Hell, it'll keep us nice and parnoid.

	02-05-2004 20:02									#35
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But as it is now one can't declare war as one self wishes. Negotiations are disalowed and thus making the traditional PBEM war declarations something of the past.

	03-05-2004 02:24									#36
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Well...

We could edit the events to allow negotiations - we all know how.

	03-05-2004 03:41									#37
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Should we vote?

I vote yes for negotiations.

	03-05-2004 06:48									#38
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I like negotiations

	03-05-2004 11:06									#39
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I'll say yes too....should we take out the random event that makes Italy join the allies too?

	03-05-2004 12:33									#40
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I disagree on the random event, but definitely yes on the negotiations (I think Russia will need some help when the bolsheviks come. )

	03-05-2004 22:04									#41
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As to the situation with the free nations, I think 2 nations with similar interests should be commanded by the same person, so, I could take Free Nations, giving Russia to the Entente

	04-05-2004 00:50									#42
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I acept the exchange, if there is no problem with the other players I'll start the game...

	04-05-2004 00:57									#43
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Alright, let's start the game.

BUT FIRST - Let's make sure we all have current copies. It might be smart to ask Curt if he can post today's most current files here in this thread as he has been changing the scenario little by little as he gets feedback. We need to be sure we all are on the same page.

Or at least post the rules txt to use with the first save, just to be sure.

	04-05-2004 05:33									#44
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Also, one person should alter the events.txt so they're all completely uniform.
However, I don't agree that one person should controll Russia and the Allies, it makes them too powerful. The allies are already pretty much completely dominant, so I don't think Russia should be added to that. Plus like this, Russia and the Allies can't persue separate interests with it like this (As did and should happen). I don't mind this solution in the short term, but I think we should actively find a new player

	04-05-2004 14:27									#45
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I agree with you, JamesJKirk. Why do we bother having the Free Nations playable?

	05-05-2004 00:26									#46
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For USA I think....

Anyway, I don't want to go against the will of other players, so I retire the Russia offer. Can you retake the Rusia civ, GoPostal? Maybe the Free Nations should be neutral - or we should fin other player.

	05-05-2004 07:22									#47
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We definitely need another player, but I have no problem with someone taking Russia and the Entente for the time being, a couple turns or so, just so we can get this moving.

	05-05-2004 11:14									#48
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I would say we have 2 options - Russia + Entente together or Free Nations as CPU/Neutral, vote Now!

	06-05-2004 01:37									#49
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Free nations CPU/Neutrla.

In my humble experience when a player start a scen is very difficult to find another player who jumps into it.

	06-05-2004 02:31									#50
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USA/Free nations declares war on a random turn, right? If so, can't we agree that the entente player playes the USA only (!!) when/if that happens?

	06-05-2004 08:03									#51
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I suppose, but I'd prefer they were controlled by a real player, let's just get this going though

	06-05-2004 22:10									#52
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I can take on the independants if you like.

I am worried that later on RL may complicate things but I will try my best to get the job done.

	06-05-2004 23:42									#53
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quote: Originally posted by JamesJKirk I suppose, but I'd prefer they were controlled by a real player, let's just get this going though

We still need Curt to get us an open season events.txt

	07-05-2004 00:14									#54
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Ok, I'll send a PM to curt in a few minutes...

	07-05-2004 02:07									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Zedd I can take on the independants if you like. I am worried that later on RL may complicate things but I will try my best to get the job done.

Sounds good, and I am having one of those weeks too.

	07-05-2004 23:19									#56
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I wrote to great Curt yesterday. He's expected to come this thread today

	15-05-2004 01:10									#57
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Is this thread dead? Let's do this

	15-05-2004 05:27									#58
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I think we're still waiting for curt to post an updated version

	15-05-2004 12:01									#59
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He posted Kaiser Complete, does it get more finished?

	15-05-2004 13:39									#60
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yep, if you look in that thread, he says he's making some changes, and he's doing an mp events.txt