10-05-2004 18:15									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Squeblish Nef? The Tooled-Up Sultanate of Al Mastif calls for more funding for a proposed war on communists. Any thoughts on the matter will happily be laughed away. This is the sort of thing you nice little communists shouldn't be thinking about.

do we ahve any communist governemntsin apolyton ???

	10-05-2004 18:17									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Frankychan "Repatriations?" You expect an acting member of the court to pay a country who has asked for our support to pay them? OOC: Objectively, I'll decide what is best for the Apolyton region and/or Azan.....even if it is detrimental to Frankychanland. (Don't ever say I'm not fair.

Auldonina has aided Azan by setting up many factories and manufactioring bases in the Western isles. We have begun relaying many miles of railways destroyed too.

Approx 5000 engineers are located within Azan hleping to design and rebuild what was lost....

	10-05-2004 18:17									#33
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Yes.
Anybody whose political ideals are unlike mine, in a kind of left-wing way.
Any questions?

	10-05-2004 18:19									#34
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hmmmmmm , maybe you need more schooling to relaise that not all leftists are communists.... some are republicans ,.....

	12-05-2004 13:51									#35
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Assuming we are part of the Apolyton court Basus would like to start a discussion on the sovernty of states. This discussion could result in a ruling of the court.

We propose that all states registered in the apolyton region poses sovernty.

Sovernty is the inherent right to act as the nation pleases on his own territory. This right is absolute and as long as territorial boundries are not crossed then the nation can do as they please.

But as soon as a nation breaks his isolationist position and takes part in the international trade and politics his sovernty is limited to doining whatever they want own their own territory without creating concequenses for the international community. This interpretation has to be very strickt. Only consequenses that lead to a severe disruption of the international community of wich the nation is part will limit its sovernty.

an example: a nation that has signed several trade agrements and is trading on international level loses a bit of his sovernty when they start to dump goods on the market disrupting international trade. But only if dumping effects the markets linked to the trade agrements and international trade of that nation.
Their loss of sovernty will entail "economic sanctions" forced upon them by the community they disrupt.
These sanctions can never surpass the damage done by the disruption.

It's just a draft so comments please

	12-05-2004 14:01									#36
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Frankychanland's ruling on Al Masti's proposal......Nay.

Frankychanland's ruling on Auldonina's ruling.....IC: Nay. OOC: Yay.

Frankychanland's ruling on Basus' proposal on Apolyton ppl registering....Yay.

	12-05-2004 14:14									#37
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damn forgot what franky saying nay to now !!!

	12-05-2004 16:25									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Basus Sovernty is the inherent right to act as the nation pleases on his own territory. This right is absolute and as long as territorial boundries are not crossed then the nation can do as they please.

So, as long as they don't violate someone else's borders, nations can violate basic human rights, have their military conduct live fire exercises with real live human targets, test all kinds of weaponry on human subjects, exterminate whole villages with chemical weapons, etc., and the rest of us can't do anything about it?

In that case, Guardinia vehemently disagrees.

	12-05-2004 18:03									#40
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It is just a draft. As soon as nations participate on a international level certain basic rights fall into place. these basic rights will develop as the rollplay develops. Each ruling of the court will colour the basic rights. It's just a system.

	12-05-2004 21:42									#41
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quote: Auldonina has aided Azan by setting up many factories and manufactioring bases in the Western isles. We have begun relaying many miles of railways destroyed too

Didn't you say elsewhere you strip mined Azan of resources then left ?

I like Basus' proposal

and no that does not mean its down there with signing a contract with the devil !!!

	13-05-2004 03:28									#42
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And do we have to follow the court's directives?

	13-05-2004 04:09									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Lazerus Didn't you say elsewhere you strip mined Azan of resources then left ? I like Basus' proposal and no that does not mean its down there with signing a contract with the devil !!!

shhhh yes,,, we did, but now we setting up manufacturing bases for them to develop more money, manufactuirng worth far more than mining...

	13-05-2004 12:28									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Squeblish Nef? And do we have to follow the court's directives?

Well, if you don't, nations that do are likely to be rather unfriendly towards you.

...of course, you being who you are, it's not likely to make much difference.

	13-05-2004 13:32									#45
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piy we cant send money to poor Azan to hel prebuild... that would b ea good court action ...

	13-05-2004 15:52									#46
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Azan doesn't need your money.
I do!
I'm sick and tired of having to pay for things myself.
It would be so much easier if you (being the members of the Apolyton Court) paid for everything for me.
What do you lot think?

	13-05-2004 17:04									#47
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umm simple anser no !!!!!

	14-05-2004 08:16									#48
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You people are so damn selfish!

	14-05-2004 08:55									#49
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What is the actual point of the sovereignty discussion? Is it supposed to prevent nations being punished for things they do that are their own business, or is it intended to set up a framework for the Court or other groups to decide that whatever they don't like is international business and then punish the "offender"?

-- Ramon de la Vega,
Foreign Secretary

	14-05-2004 13:30									#50
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i bleeive tha tis their aim ...

	14-05-2004 14:44									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. President What is the actual point of the sovereignty discussion? Is it supposed to prevent nations being punished for things they do that are their own business, or is it intended to set up a framework for the Court or other groups to decide that whatever they don't like is international business and then punish the "offender"? -- Ramon de la Vega, Foreign Secretary

I thought this would be the thread where the court desisions should be made and discussed.

	14-05-2004 19:52									#52
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and limited to the court nominees only ?

	14-05-2004 22:03									#53
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No, applicable to the region as a whole, and enforced by supporters of the court.

	14-05-2004 22:09									#54
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Think of them as politicians, we are the electorate, we can shout our opinions all we want and if they don't listen then maybe in a couple of months re-elections could be held. Of course the final say on matters until then is upto the 5 now.

	14-05-2004 22:24									#55
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court - holmes a court - tennis court - court her in my arms

what will the court do next ???

	14-05-2004 22:34									#56
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Lazerus. I agree 100%

Sometimes they'll listen to the complaints and modify their position, and sometimes they'll stick to their guns...

	15-05-2004 04:32									#57
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quote: Originally posted by joncha No, applicable to the region as a whole, and enforced by supporters of the court.

that could make tihngs interesting ...

	16-05-2004 21:57									#58
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Of course, should a nation refuse to acknowledge the rulings of the court, the court could always insist that said nation be ejected from the region (obviously in EXTREME circumstances only), and as a supporter of the court system and regional delegate Ceroo would be obliged to enforce the ruling.

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quote: Originally posted by Basus Assuming we are part of the Apolyton court Basus would like to start a discussion on the sovernty of states. This discussion could result in a ruling of the court. We propose that all states registered in the apolyton region poses sovernty. Sovernty is the inherent right to act as the nation pleases on his own territory. This right is absolute and as long as territorial boundries are not crossed then the nation can do as they please. But as soon as a nation breaks his isolationist position and takes part in the international trade and politics his sovernty is limited to doining whatever they want own their own territory without creating concequenses for the international community. This interpretation has to be very strickt. Only consequenses that lead to a severe disruption of the international community of wich the nation is part will limit its sovernty. an example: a nation that has signed several trade agrements and is trading on international level loses a bit of his sovernty when they start to dump goods on the market disrupting international trade. But only if dumping effects the markets linked to the trade agrements and international trade of that nation. Their loss of sovernty will entail "economic sanctions" forced upon them by the community they disrupt. These sanctions can never surpass the damage done by the disruption.

quote: It is just a draft. As soon as nations participate on a international level certain basic rights fall into place. these basic rights will develop as the rollplay develops. Each ruling of the court will colour the basic rights. It's just a system.

It's just a draft so comments please

	17-05-2004 04:31									#60
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To each his own ! Live and let live etc