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Congradulations for the job well done on almost all fronts.

Few questions.
Why is the destroyer sleeping. It's the finest ship in the fleet, the crews could at least be escorting, or sinking Egyptian transports.
Why is Jewish Nicosia building a training camp?

More importantly, the three main drives. I like the idea of attacking, but I'm not sure if we have enough units to attack everywhere.

1. Egyptian coastal road: I think Rasputin can get far. He needs some "garrison" troops, and since he's plowing towards Egypt, some air defense that can keep come up with him, or that will shortly follow. It needs to be more than just the T-34's, though those will be a mighty punch.

Give me an endpoint for the offensive, I don't want this going to Cairo, yet.....

2. Hebron Advance: I think Yaro should take Hebron, and perhaps Beersheba. I'm not sure how fast he can advance, the artillery is slow, and we've noticed at least some Egyptian tanks here.
The ultimate goal should be Eilat, but I'm not sure if that can be reached without more mobile units.

3. I like Htower's advance more, since we need to kill the Palestinian pocket.

But for all these, keep in mind the Golan. We may wish to purchase another tank to send up there if the situation worsens.

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@El Awrence: Yes, I dont have the whole scenario

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ok hopefully you will have some more clear instructions by time i rwady to paly , which will be in probably 10 hours time... so if any ministers have some strategy they wish to share please post before then , i will be palying after i wake up....

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Congradulations for the job well done on almost all fronts.

Few questions.
Why is the destroyer sleeping. It's the finest ship in the fleet, the crews could at least be escorting, or sinking Egyptian transports.

because I only siezed command of the transport, I left the destroyer for whoever has the proper command of it
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Why is Jewish Nicosia building a training camp?

I've been asking the same thing...

More importantly, the three main drives. I like the idea of attacking, but I'm not sure if we have enough units to attack everywhere.

2. Hebron Advance: I think Yaro should take Hebron, and perhaps Beersheba. I'm not sure how fast he can advance, the artillery is slow, and we've noticed at least some Egyptian tanks here.
The ultimate goal should be Eilat, but I'm not sure if that can be reached without more mobile units.
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What of his duel drive on Ramallah? IMO he doesn't have the forces to do both

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3. I like Htower's advance more, since we need to kill the Palestinian pocket.


"Give me more soldiers noble leader so that they may sheath their swords in the beating hearts of our enemies!"

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But for all these, keep in mind the Golan. We may wish to purchase another tank to send up there if the situation worsens.


Yes, please purchase another tank, reinforcements have to fight their way up onto the heights as it is.

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with so muc hactivity , the tide truly does appear t obe turning

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What of his duel drive on Ramallah? IMO he doesn't have the forces to do both


I didn't realize he was planning on doing that as well, I thought the Pals would be left to you.

If he wants to go to Ramallah (or is ordered to do so), and hence we pressure the Palestinians from the north and the south, then he should stop the southern advance after the fall of Hebron, because he does not have enough troops to do both.

I think attacking the Palestinian pocket from two sides would be more fruitful than reclaiming parts of the Negev. (No offense intended towards our brave settlers down there ). Their are only two reasons to go back to the Negev.
1. Secure Eilat, which has trade value, and is a useful port for immigration. This would require a major effort on our part.
2. Guard Rasputin's flanks as he attacks on the coast. This depends on how far Rasputin chooses to advance, but I'm not sure Yaro even on the flank could keep up with the advance, since he has no tanks.

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so? should I call of the troops that're going after Hebron?

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Eliat must be returned for pride !!!!!

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I think Hebron is still worthwile, but I'm not sure if you should go south of there. Also, your troops need to rest.

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I'll stop in Hebron and we'll reevalute the situation.

I won't be able to reach Elilat with a strong tank group, and it'll be best used by Rasputin and Mikko.

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Eliat will be looked at and assessed as part of my plans. Cairo is my main concern though.....

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I didn't realize he was planning on doing that as well, I thought the Pals would be left to you.

If he wants to go to Ramallah (or is ordered to do so), and hence we pressure the Palestinians from the north and the south, then he should stop the southern advance after the fall of Hebron, because he does not have enough troops to do both.

I think attacking the Palestinian pocket from two sides would be more fruitful than reclaiming parts of the Negev. (No offense intended towards our brave settlers down there ). Their are only two reasons to go back to the Negev.
1. Secure Eilat, which has trade value, and is a useful port for immigration. This would require a major effort on our part.
2. Guard Rasputin's flanks as he attacks on the coast. This depends on how far Rasputin chooses to advance, but I'm not sure Yaro even on the flank could keep up with the advance, since he has no tanks.


If I have to take the entire pocket on by myself, I'm going to need a few zion workers because otherwise my forces are going to be strung out along a LONG road and new troops will take forever to get to the front. Also, if I decide to strike from the south, as well as from the north, I'll need more than double the troops I currently have available for attack. Ooh, I like the sound of that, double the number of troops under my command

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Few questions.
Why is the destroyer sleeping. It's the finest ship in the fleet, the crews could at least be escorting, or sinking Egyptian transports.
Why is Jewish Nicosia building a training camp?


Damnest, I had no idea we had a destroyer There must be a bureaucratic error here, I never remember comissioning it even Con, sink us some Arab freighters when immigration turn comes around.

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1. Egyptian coastal road: I think Rasputin can get far. He needs some "garrison" troops, and since he's plowing towards Egypt, some air defense that can keep come up with him, or that will shortly follow. It needs to be more than just the T-34's, though those will be a mighty punch.


I would like to push as far as El Arish, so we will probably need to find 3 machine guns and 3 AA over the next four/five months. I'd like to push to El Arish, wait up on Yaros while he performs mop up operations to the north and east of the road, perhaps from El Arish we can strike out and liberate Tekuma and Beersheba.

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2. Hebron Advance: I think Yaro should take Hebron, and perhaps Beersheba. I'm not sure how fast he can advance, the artillery is slow, and we've noticed at least some Egyptian tanks here.
The ultimate goal should be Eilat, but I'm not sure if that can be reached without more mobile units.


Agreed. For the moment, he will have to make do with artillery, zion workers and such. I'd like to see him take Hebron soon and Ramallah, which are fairly close, until I can get him tanks to strike out against Bersheeba. He has enough artillery for two columns I should think, and with intelligent use of kibbutznicks, zion workers and the few defense units he has, I am sure that he can perform both tasks.

Eilat, my friend, is still a long way away.

The Palestinian pocket will be taken from the north and south, we have enough artillery to do that, and enough defensive units to provide for some advances at the moment, and we'll just have to rush a few infantry now.

But I would really really like to push against El Arish, and see Hebron, Ramallah and Jenin falling within the next four/five months.

All of this, of course, provided that we continue to hold in the north, which has weakened considerably in Kafer Szold.



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@El Awrence: Yes, I dont have the whole scenario


And here it is:

Attachment: exodus2.zip
This has been downloaded 3 time(s).

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hi ,

sjee , not to many downloads , ....


great progress

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The "sleeping" destroyer is "sleeping" on top of a transport or it was before *cough, cough* someone moved the transport.

The destroyer was doing escort duty on the immigrants amd the gun boat was running point as I noted IN LAST MONTHS REPORT

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Ok, just didn't realize Htower moved it. But please send one or the other to sink that transport.

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downlaoded save, playing now

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PLAY FROM HERE

COS part I (El Awrence) - DONE
Northern Front: (Stalin II) - PENDING
Home Front: (HTower) - DONE
Judean East (Yaroslav) - DONE
Sinai Front: (Rasputin) - DONE
Immigration (Conmcb25 acting) - PENDING
Defense (Conmcb25) - PENDING
Econ - (Arthedain) - PENDING
COS part II (El Awrence) - PENDING




Hope that good ...

use save below ......

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Please report in the Sinai thread what happened.

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Never mind I just checked the save.

I have one question. Are you crazy?!!

You have left all the tanks in the open! Two of them are even bunched on top of each other. They have no defenses, they are not in cities or in the open, they are totally exposed. A blitz does not mean capture El Arish in two turns!!


I salute you for capturing Gaza, but unless you felt you could capture Rafa and moved the tanks into it during the same turn you should have left them in Gaza, where one airstrike or artillery attacking from Rafa wouldn't decimate our entire offense!!!
If those extremely tanks get destroyed in an Egyptian counter-attack, there will be hell to pay!!

And if you are lucky and the tanks, you must take better care of them in the future!!!

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Please report in the Sinai thread what happened.


yep posted in sinai thread....

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Never mind I just checked the save.

I have one question. Are you crazy?!!

You have left all the tanks in the open! Two of them are even bunched on top of each other. They have no defenses, they are not in cities or in the open, they are totally exposed. A blitz does not mean capture El Arish in two turns!!


I salute you for capturing Gaza, but unless you felt you could capture Rafa and moved the tanks into it during the same turn you should have left them in Gaza, where one airstrike or artillery attacking from Rafa wouldn't decimate our entire offense!!!
If those extremely tanks get destroyed in an Egyptian counter-attack, there will be hell to pay!!

And if you are lucky and the tanks, you must take better care of them in the future!!!


I guess i a bit of a risk taker !!! Wanted to be ready to take Rafa next turn and move onto El Arish too.

All i need to accomplish this is Some defenders to hold the towns...

The attack on Gaza destroyed two fighters and one bomber...

Forgot to mention tha tbefore, so maybe i taken out a lot of their airfoce that was preparing t oattack us naext turn ...

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We shall see, I am quite nervous. Those are expensive pieces of machinery, and if they get broken, you aren't getting more soon.

Also, you have yet to move the Irgun by Eilat, so the turn isn't over for you yet.

Just to prove I'm not a completely disatisfied, good job destroying that pocket near Beersheba.

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ok didnt relaise those troops were mine down there so left them alone ...

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updated save ....

Attachment: 1948sept.sav
This has been downloaded 3 time(s).

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still learning the ability of these scenario units so hopefully i did ok ...

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hi ,

as pointed out a long time ago , " he who does nothing cant make a mistake " , .....

so , keep up the good work

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thanks .. i think !!!

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" he who does nothing cant make a mistake "


I disagree completely

"The greatest mistake you can make in life is to be continually fearing you will make one."
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We'll find out, won't we?

What were the Egyptian units that you killed? I didn't see a list. Display your combat victories proudly!

Now I just wish that StalinII would play so we can find out how he's going to tackle that problem. I'm glad I have such an inactive front, it allows me to set the tone

 
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