18-05-2004 19:21									#61
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Can you do nested LR pairs? Say, go LLRR for instance using only 1 wildcard?

	18-05-2004 19:44									#62
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Orders sent! I found a way round the corner only using 2 WCs and still accellerating

-Jam

	18-05-2004 19:51									#63
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Doesn't that just mean you'll smash into a different wall, slightly further down the track?

	18-05-2004 19:53									#64
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But at a much higher speed!

	18-05-2004 19:57									#65
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And with no wildcards left!

	18-05-2004 20:08									#66
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Indeed! Speed is KING!

-Jam

	18-05-2004 20:40									#67
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I prefer E myself.

	18-05-2004 20:43									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Can you do nested LR pairs? Say, go LLRR for instance using only 1 wildcard?

Hmmm, that is a darn good question. Logically, it seems like the answer should be yes, since we allow a LR on the same turn without a wildcard. But then we have also stated that two lefts or two rights need a wild card.

I will say that yes, going LLRR will be just one wildcard, unless a case can be made against the maneuver being only 1 WC.

	18-05-2004 20:54									#69
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Coolies. Orders sent.

	18-05-2004 21:23									#70
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But a LLRR is not possible or it is and requires 2 WCs?

	18-05-2004 22:04									#71
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Actually the lrlr came up before and we decided that it would be one WC for each additional r or l, hence two would be needed.

In other words the first turn in either direction is free, after that you pay for them all, whether rlll, or rlrl, still 2 WC.

Does that make sense?

	18-05-2004 22:44									#72
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Hmmmm, I thought using more than one WC for direction or speed in the same turn was not allowed. But you could use one for speed and one for direction on the same turn.

	18-05-2004 23:04									#73
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Sent.

	18-05-2004 23:24									#74
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I'm going by GJ's earlier ruling.

	19-05-2004 00:02									#75
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But then that only covers lrlr or rlrl not llrr or rrll. I am looking for clarification before I send in a turn since it will have an impact quite soon.

	19-05-2004 00:03									#76
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quote: Originally posted by rah Hmmmm, I thought using more than one WC for direction or speed in the same turn was not allowed. But you could use one for speed and one for direction on the same turn.

It wasn't, but people kept sending in orders that had multiples. I sugest that we change it to as many as you like. Who are we to say how someone can use wildcards? As long as we are all on the same playfield, then everything is fair.

	19-05-2004 00:07									#77
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quote: Originally posted by rah But then that only covers lrlr or rlrl not llrr or rrll. I am looking for clarification before I send in a turn since it will have an impact quite soon.

quote: Originally posted by gjramsey I will say that yes, going LLRR will be just one wildcard, unless a case can be made against the maneuver being only 1 WC.

There you go, confirmation.
I have based my orders on that, anyway.

	19-05-2004 00:17									#78
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Geez! I thought GM was going to be easy!! :

I was basing my decision on the fact that we do allow LR without a wildcard. I see where Rah is making his arguement with LRLR or vise-versa. Skanky was basing his question on nesting the commands. A LR inside a LR. Thinking like a programmer, this makes sense to me also.

Are we all confused now?

	19-05-2004 00:23									#79
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Yes,

	19-05-2004 00:25									#80
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Perfectly.

	19-05-2004 00:33									#81
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I have no problem with LLRR or LRLR or RLRL using 1 wildcard.

I also agree with Spaced's comments above about using as many wildcards as you want in a turn.

Anyone opposed to this?

	19-05-2004 00:41									#82
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Using as many as you want does change the stratagy a bit. But you're the GM and the call is yours. WE're just trying to have fun and avoid getting hit from behind.

	19-05-2004 00:50									#83
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It does change the strategy somewhat, doesn't it. Maybe the as many as you want in a turn should start in the next race.

I am not in this race, so you will have to worry about me next time! ;

	19-05-2004 01:24									#84
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Sent.

	19-05-2004 02:05									#85
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I still disagree, since I asked the rlrl question last game, actually I asked the lrl question...my bad.

I think that you should be able to rlab without WC but any repeats cost u a wildcard.

	19-05-2004 05:30									#86
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I have been thinking on this more, and I think I see what Spaced is saying. The RL or LR is not a combination, but one specific of each. If you want to do a second one of either of them it should be a wildcard for each one.

Since I ruled the other way earlier with them being a combination, we will stick with that ruling for the rest of this race.

	19-05-2004 12:10									#87
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That's what I thought too... but you're the GM, and let's not change things midrace.

-Jam

	19-05-2004 17:37									#88
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Still waiting on Panzeh.

If I get any more complicted questions, the whole track might combust!

	19-05-2004 22:57									#89
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Turn 6 (Panzeh is idleing, but will be allowed to catch up)

code:
                                         *****               
                                      **********             
                                   **************            
                                  ******6*******3**          
                                  ******       ***2**        
                                    *****         ****1      
                                     *****         *5***     
                                   *****            ******   
                                  ****                ****** 
                                 ****                 *******
                                ****                 ******* 
             ***                *****              *******   
           *******                ****             *  *  *   
          **********               ****            *  *  *   
         ****    *****             ****           *******    
        ****      ******            ***          *******     
       ****           ***          ****         *******      
     ****           ****          ****        *******       
    ****            ****         ****       *******        
    ****             ****      *****       *******         
    ****              ****    ***          ******          
    ****                *********            ***4*
    ****                ********               ******      
    ****                  ****                 ********    
    ****                                       ********    
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    ****                                       ********    
    ****                                       ********    
     ****                                      *******     
      ********|**********************         ********      
       *******|************************      ********       
        ******|*************************************        
         *****|************************************         
          ****|***********************************           
           ***|**********************************           


(car #, name, speed, heading, WC, orders):
1. Rah,		12, N,  5	(m4)L(m7) 
2. Spaced,	13, NW, 5	a(3m)l(5m)(l+1)(3m)
3. Skanky Burns,13, W,  3	a(m6)L(m4)(L+1)(m)
4. Panzeh,	11, NW, 3	a(a+1)(m4)l(m5)(l+1)
5. Jonny,	12, NW, 5	A(m5)L(m4)(L+1)(m1)
6. Jamski,	14, W,  1	l(l+1)r(m1)(l+1)(m9)

Jamski figured his way around the turns and still accelerating in to the next set of turns. Spaced has made a nice move and is quickly gaining on Skanky. Jonny is still following close behind. Rah looks to have misjudged the upcoming turn and is going to run off the track on the next turn.

Will add Panzeh's turn when recieved, and accepting orders for the next turn!

	19-05-2004 23:27									#90
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Oddres Schezpejf!

-Jam