20-05-2004 00:43									#31
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quote: Originally posted by GePap You do know the meaning of Op-ed, don't you? Note that the two writers work for the economist

op-ed

	20-05-2004 00:44									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Imran -- never mind. I think I thought you were one of the Apolytoners who got disappointed with Kerry, and decided to go for a third party. Only when the third parties decide to stop being run by a bunch of wackjobs and loonies .

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	20-05-2004 00:45									#33
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun op-ed

Opinion-Editorial

Man, you Iowa boys really don't get out much, do ya?

	20-05-2004 00:46									#34
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun op-ed

Yes, you know, like an opinon piece writen to a newspaper that is a bit longer than a letter? Its a common practice many newspapers have, you know.

	20-05-2004 00:46									#35
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Remember, Siddiqui, IOWA is an acronym. It stands for Idiots Out Wandering Around.

	20-05-2004 00:50									#36
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Oh that Illinois-Iowa rivalry .

	20-05-2004 00:52									#37
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Yup, like the hatfields and McCoys, only with fewer teeth and living in more abject poverty.

	20-05-2004 00:52									#38
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If that what you meant by that silly acronym, then I would have understood what you meant had you just used the word, "opinion-editorial."

	20-05-2004 00:52									#39
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Remember, Siddiqui, IOWA is an acronym. It stands for Idiots Out Wandering Around.

Is this the best you can do?

	20-05-2004 00:53									#40
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Idiots Out Wondering Aloud

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Yeah, and next I will be talking about that wonderful team out in Queens, the Metropolitans...

Welcome to 2004

	20-05-2004 00:55									#42
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quote: If that what you meant by that silly acronym, then I would have understood what you meant had you just used the word, "opinion-editorial."

We apologize if you can't figure out socially accepted acronyms. Do people get in trouble asking you to respond RSVP as well?

	20-05-2004 00:56									#43
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I just love being lynched every now and then by fellow Apolytoners.

	20-05-2004 00:59									#44
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We love lynching you as well

	20-05-2004 01:00									#45
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aaaawwwwww

thanks

	20-05-2004 01:02									#46
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GET THE ROPE! LETS STRING HIM UP!

	20-05-2004 01:02									#47
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I'm still recovering from my last rope burns though.

	20-05-2004 01:07									#48
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I for one, believe in a democratically elected one-party system. My reason for this? In a constitutional republic like ours, a UNITED party of one would quickly become a party of independents. If, we are all debating on the nature of the Republic, as republics and changing the nature of the republic through the democratic process... Not only would we have one party, but, democratically elected and partipated in by the people, we would have as many "parties of one" as there are participating individuals.

One Republican Party = The Triumph of Individualism.
All for one, and one for all, the product of a democratic election and a More Perfect Union. Democrats who elect the Constitution to be the law and adhere to the authority of the Republic, are by their very nature, Republicans.

Join the Party, and be a Party of One.

Also, George Washington himself, in his farewell message, said that multiparty system would tear our nation apart. Change the Republic from within, as a Republican. I have endeavoured to do this, I have already helped many Republicans become Evolution / Creation dualists and am very proud of that accomplishment.

	20-05-2004 01:09									#49
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Mr Fun: We like to lynch you mostly because you like Racoons .

	20-05-2004 01:22									#51
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If that article is right and if the conservatives are indeed winning since 1964 then please answer some questions
-why is spending now higher then in 64 ?(% of gross product I mean)
-why do we now have less war tolerance then in 64? In the vietnam war needed we thousants of dead americans and genocide of entire vilages in order to make the public anti-war. Now in Iraq seems it like hunderds of dead americans and an abuses scandale that does not even come close to what happened in vietnam is enough, the majority now thinks we better had not invaded iraq.
-compare the rights and power of minorities and gays in 64 and now, is this really a conservative victory?

So even while the right is now much better organized and wins much more elections seems it like the USA is still slowely moving to a more liberal nation.

	20-05-2004 01:33									#52
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I was going to object on the basis of being an Iowan, but I don't want to stand between Mr. Fun and a willing lynch mob.

	20-05-2004 01:35									#53
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That's a good man .

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quote: Originally posted by mindseye I was going to object on the basis of being an Iowan, but I don't want to stand between Mr. Fun and a willing lynch mob.

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quote: So even while the right is now much better organized and wins much more elections seems it like the USA is still slowely moving to a more liberal nation.

Modern conservativism is about gradual change, not stagnation or even reactionaryism. It's just a different manner in change. Our government today doesn't resemble LBJ's Great Society plans.

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It's never a good idea to stand between a lynch mob and its target. It might be the right thing to do, but it's not a good idea.

	20-05-2004 01:59									#57
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One word in that op-ed piece is the key to everything: Ruthless.

Gatekeeper

	20-05-2004 02:24									#58
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now vs 1964

Straight economics - the conservatives win hands down - what can we privatize today? Economic regulation gone. Lower taxes for micro reasons a good thing acclaimed by all.

Safety Net - a draw - not going away, but no more than marginal expansions in the cards. Means testing gaining elite acceptance, even among liberals, but the politics dont work

Culture - conservatives lose. Gay rights, feminism, choice (which will undoubtedly survive a reversal of Roe v Wade) etc. On anything which doesnt relate directly or indirectly to economics (responsibility is good) theyve lost. Heck, even when they win (in 2004 terms) they lose (in 1964 terms) faith based solutions will include churches women ministers and priests are routine, charter schools include black power schools, etc.

all more the playing out of certain dynamics of freedom and personal choice, than a victory for conservatives per se.

	20-05-2004 02:24									#59
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quote: the dominant intellectual force in American politics

Nothing intellectual about it. Conservatism is just fear and prejudice dressed up.

I take it no one read that psychological analysis of political conservatives. Although the authors try to tone it down it turns out that conservatives are just reactionary dumbasses.

	20-05-2004 02:27									#60
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Why is that the following people find conservative ideology more appealing than liberal ideology:


racists/white supremacists

homophobes

sexists

anti-Semites

xeneophobes



Basically, throughout history, most hate mongers have found comfort within the conservative ideology.


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