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Chrisius, when would you be able to join in? July or so?

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I could do one or two little side pieces if the DAR has something unusual or funny in it. ((Hate to sound like an Uber N00b here, but what's a DAR?))

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Mid August at the earliest Im afraid, that is to be able to devote any real time to this.

I start a new Job next week and have some training to get through, then family holidays. After that I should be more available

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Now country is what i be!

Please, do tell..I am interested in writing actually.LOVE WRITING!!
Ok..in this AU..and I believe its called DAR???

I am thinking you would want someone to write a story based on turns?

I am currently writing a story..not specifically on "turns" but on the game as it unfolds..a "behind-the-scenes"

In this DAR..how would it differ from what style or mode I am currently writing?

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I could do one or two little side pieces if the DAR has something unusual or funny in it. ((Hate to sound like an Uber N00b here, but what's a DAR?))


I'm sure we could fit something funny in it, to make it more enjoyable, whether or not it actually has something funny or unusual in it. A During Action Report is something you write up, every number of turns. If you go the AU Forum, you will see many there.

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Mid August at the earliest Im afraid, that is to be able to devote any real time to this.

I start a new Job next week and have some training to get through, then family holidays. After that I should be more available



This is longer than I hoped, but I doubt it would be finished by then, maybe not even close to being done, so you will still be able to contribute.

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Please, do tell..I am interested in writing actually.LOVE WRITING!!
Ok..in this AU..and I believe its called DAR???

I am thinking you would want someone to write a story based on turns?

I am currently writing a story..not specifically on "turns" but on the game as it unfolds..a "behind-the-scenes"

In this DAR..how would it differ from what style or mode I am currently writing?

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I want a group of writers and editors that will write about the game as a whole. Since I am not a writer, I need suggestions with this. Would it be possible to try to make it a huge story, talking about every aspect of the game?

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Would it be possible to try to make it a huge story, talking about every aspect of the game?


Of course, it'd be possible, just that we need to be careful coordinating the writing I think. Otherwise, it may and up so everyone writes about a single aspect of a single turn. While it would certainly be most interesting to compare the results of such exercise, we definitely wouldn't get far then.

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Of course, it'd be possible, just that we need to be careful coordinating the writing I think. Otherwise, it may and up so everyone writes about a single aspect of a single turn. While it would certainly be most interesting to compare the results of such exercise, we definitely wouldn't get far then.


Would it be easier for me to translate the DAR to include only large events? And how much time does it take to write a normal story? And how many words?

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Would it be easier for me to translate the DAR to include only large events?


Nah. I'd say give us the DAR, and we'll sort it out.

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And how much time does it take to write a normal story?


Wellllll.... It depends on the author, the DAR, the day of the week we start writing, the weather outside at the time of the writing, and the author's relationship with his girlfriend at the moment. Seriously, there are so many factors governing this that I wouldn't dare estimate. Sometimes it takes me an hour to whip a short story like Reload in my sig up. At other times, it'd take me a few days. It all depends. More epic stories, obviously, take more time. I believe Mike's Story by Chrisius was over a year in writing, for instance.

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And how many words?


How many do you want?

It depends on the topic, and the level of development you want to achieve. Some things I can write thousands and thousands of words on. Others... Well, for some things I can barely squeeze 200 words out of myself.

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And how much time does it take to write a normal story? And how many words?

Well, most professional authors only average 1000-3000 words a day (RA salvatore does 1000, James Michner or Tom Wolfe does about 3000 [I think])

It depends on the quality you want and so many other factors as vovan has thankfully explained, how long these things might take. Honestly, they'll take as long as they take and the more people collaborating on a project- the longer it'll take if they ahve to wait for person a to pass the work to person b and people are limited in the amount of material they have to work with and have to read other people's works.

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The game itself, or Civ III?

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[quote]Nah. I'd say give us the DAR, and we'll sort it out.

If that's better for you, it's better for me.



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Wellllll.... It depends on the author, the DAR, the day of the week we start writing, the weather outside at the time of the writing, and the author's relationship with his girlfriend at the moment. Seriously, there are so many factors governing this that I wouldn't dare estimate. Sometimes it takes me an hour to whip a short story like Reload in my sig up. At other times, it'd take me a few days. It all depends. More epic stories, obviously, take more time. I believe Mike's Story by Chrisius was over a year in writing, for instance.

I was thinking about one year. How long was "Mike's Story?"



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How many do you want?

It depends on the topic, and the level of development you want to achieve. Some things I can write thousands and thousands of words on. Others... Well, for some things I can barely squeeze 200 words out of myself.

I was thinking more thousands and thousands Is at least 10,000 a pretty good goal to aim for?

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Well, most professional authors only average 1000-3000 words a day (RA salvatore does 1000, James Michner or Tom Wolfe does about 3000 [I think])

It depends on the quality you want and so many other factors as vovan has thankfully explained, how long these things might take. Honestly, they'll take as long as they take and the more people collaborating on a project- the longer it'll take if they ahve to wait for person a to pass the work to person b and people are limited in the amount of material they have to work with and have to read other people's works.


The game itself, or Civ III?


The game itself.

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I was thinking about one year. How long was "Mike's Story?"


Well, I looked up some of Chris's stories, and found that Mike's Story was not that long in the writing, it was "The Fight For Freedom" I was thinking of, which is an even more civ-like story, that took so long. (Of course, it's immaterial which story it was, since this is just an example.) You can check out "The Fight For Freedom" here:

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The first post was made 22-12-2002, and the epilogue was posted 05-01-2004 - a little over a year, as you can see. And you can judge how long it is yourself.

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I was thinking more thousands and thousands Is at least 10,000 a pretty good goal to aim for?


Well, thing is, I, personally, never liked to measure stories/essays in the number of words. IMO, whatever gets it done is good.

So I think the good way to go about this is for someone like you to supervise the process of writing and give directions. Like you want a certain area to be covered in more depth. Or maybe you want a certain character developed more thoroughly. Or maybe, on the contrary, you would like some rosyness to be cut in places. Then, however many words we come out with, that's how many we'll have.

I wouldn't set a number in advance and try to reach it, but instead just let it flow naturally and go with however many we get.

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Well, I looked up some of Chris's stories, and found that Mike's Story was not that long in the writing, it was "The Fight For Freedom" I was thinking of, which is an even more civ-like story, that took so long. (Of course, it's immaterial which story it was, since this is just an example.) You can check out "The Fight For Freedom" here:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...75&pagenumber=1

The first post was made 22-12-2002, and the epilogue was posted 05-01-2004 - a little over a year, as you can see. And you can judge how long it is yourself.



Well, thing is, I, personally, never liked to measure stories/essays in the number of words. IMO, whatever gets it done is good.

So I think the good way to go about this is for someone like you to supervise the process of writing and give directions. Like you want a certain area to be covered in more depth. Or maybe you want a certain character developed more thoroughly. Or maybe, on the contrary, you would like some rosyness to be cut in places. Then, however many words we come out with, that's how many we'll have.

I wouldn't set a number in advance and try to reach it, but instead just let it flow naturally and go with however many we get.


Thanks for the link

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Ok..I am getting a grip on what your looking for.

It would be many writers (Yes please count me in!) developing a story based on "Your" DAR..we would simply write about it.

Am I close?

Or

do many writers write different stories based upon DAR in a game we each have individually played?

Look at it like this:

I am a hunting dawg, ok?

I am in a box on the back of the truck and your the great white hunter.

You know what your looking to have as a trophy kill, ok?

But, I dont quite know until I get let loose from this "box" and you take my leash off, and let me run down this story (Trophy), ok?

I promise to hunt real good for you just need a "leetle" direction.!

When I was a mere lad in the 7th grade, I asked my writing lab teacher for direction on what exactly I should write about. I got possibly the best learning tool I ever used. She told me to go get my dictionary (pre online one, ya had to actually "open" a book!) and I closed my eyes and had to put my finger on 25 words and then take the 25 words and make a story based upon a subject that she would pick out. It may have been about a family picnic, a basketball game, a storm or just a walk in the snow, but it made me stop and think.

The second best training tool was we took a tape recorder and had to make 10 "commericals" from 10 items we drew from a hatr and then make up a name and a selling tool for each, I drew a lawnmower and then had to take 10 words from my dictionary and make them "fit". The words were drawn prior to me knowing my subject.

This would be what I would refer to now as "Thinking outside the box"

At any rate (Longwinded aint I? )

1000 words or 10,000 words aint no problemo fer Hermano Bruce!

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I am a hunting dawg, ok?

I am in a box on the back of the truck and your the great white hunter.

You know what your looking to have as a trophy kill, ok?

But, I dont quite know until I get let loose from this "box" and you take my leash off, and let me run down this story (Trophy), ok?

I promise to hunt real good for you just need a "leetle" direction.!




All I can say is... What took you so long?

You've been registered since 2000, and only now found us? You could have written a bunch of great stories by now.

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Ok..I am getting a grip on what your looking for.

It would be many writers (Yes please count me in!) developing a story based on "Your" DAR..we would simply write about it.

Am I close?

Or

do many writers write different stories based upon DAR in a game we each have individually played?

Look at it like this:

I am a hunting dawg, ok?

I am in a box on the back of the truck and your the great white hunter.

You know what your looking to have as a trophy kill, ok?

But, I dont quite know until I get let loose from this "box" and you take my leash off, and let me run down this story (Trophy), ok?

I promise to hunt real good for you just need a "leetle" direction.!

When I was a mere lad in the 7th grade, I asked my writing lab teacher for direction on what exactly I should write about. I got possibly the best learning tool I ever used. She told me to go get my dictionary (pre online one, ya had to actually "open" a book!) and I closed my eyes and had to put my finger on 25 words and then take the 25 words and make a story based upon a subject that she would pick out. It may have been about a family picnic, a basketball game, a storm or just a walk in the snow, but it made me stop and think.

The second best training tool was we took a tape recorder and had to make 10 "commericals" from 10 items we drew from a hatr and then make up a name and a selling tool for each, I drew a lawnmower and then had to take 10 words from my dictionary and make them "fit". The words were drawn prior to me knowing my subject.

This would be what I would refer to now as "Thinking outside the box"

At any rate (Longwinded aint I? )

1000 words or 10,000 words aint no problemo fer Hermano Bruce!

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A group of writers will be writing a story based on a DAR of my choosing. Hope that helps

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Chris's story seems a good length to me. Any other people that you think might join this?

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A group of writers will be writing a story based on a DAR of my choosing. Hope that helps


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please...choose away!


THAT clears it up, for I was trying to figure how many would write on a different..um..never mind, I got it now..well..I will have it whence you tell us the DAR (ned) thing!

and I been registered for awhile..as the former DrDanger until I change to Troll..

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I'll try to get a DAR as soon as possible. How about, I post multiple DAR's and you guys choose the best one to write about?

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I'll try to get a DAR as soon as possible. How about, I post multiple DAR's and you guys choose the best one to write about?


Sure..but only ONE Issue..

Can we start a DAR and do it..instead of talking about it?

Id gladly start once you give the topic..and direction..

I just hate having the mentality of a "committee meeting"..you know..get together, talk about it, vote on it, make a motion, second approved and then..

I just wanna let loose and write!!


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when will we see the DAR?

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I'm sorry but my computer has been acting up as of late, I will get the DAR(s) up as soon as possible.

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Alexander, Shaka, Joan, and Catherine found themselves wandering through a weird place. Everything was white, including their clothes, hair, teeth, eyes, skin, they were all dopplegangers, blank persons except for a knowledge of their own name.

Catherine spoke up, "Is this heaven?"

"Ha! If this were heaven YOU certainly wouldn't be here, and there would definitely be like at least 400 hot chicks for every pound of flesh you drag around." Alexander snorted.

"Yeah besides, we got ol' baldy over here," Shaka said motioning to Joan.

"GIVE ME A BREAK!! We're all white haired now, we all look friggin' bald!" Joan retorted.

"What should we do?" Catherine wondered aloud.

"Well, one thing that seems to work a lot in these little 'situations' is to break character and just lay a big fat WTF on that guttersnipe, Metaliturtle."

"Good idea!"

"Hey Metaliturtle! Why did you stick us in this freaked up messed out place anywho?"

Metaliturtle was a bit flustered, but he answered as best as he could, "well guys, it looks as if the parties in power wish this one to be written based on a DAR. I'm supposed to get clued in from Nuclear Master I think."

Shaka, who had kinda become the 'spokesman' of the quartet, really didn't know what a DAR was, "DAR? You mean a Drunken Armadillo Rebellion? Wow, that's an awesome idea for a story! I would read that for sure, and we get to take part in this Drunken Armadillo Rebellion too? Man dude, we get all the breaks in your stories, you're the only one who lets us fight mammals that are less susceptable to car damage!"

"Whatever!" Joan retorted, "DAR doesn't stand for Drunken Armadillo Rebellion! It stands for Dynamic American Robots, and obviously we're going to have to fight that prude Lincoln in a cataclysmic battle of wits and technological fortitude to deal with just how Dynamic these American Robots could potentially be. They could even be really responsible for the way Metaliturtle confuses us."

"You are both very much wrong," Stated a know-it-all-sounding Catherine, "Everyone knows that DAR means Daring Assassins of Russia, this is going to be one story where my beauty is going to be appreciated by all... or else!"

Metaliturtle chuckled, "Actually I think someone told me it was a During Action Report, it's like a newspaper of the existence of the world."

Alexander brightened up a little, "You mean like an Adult newspaper?"

"NO!!"

"Bummer" His face grew sullen.

"Wait a minute, you said this person was a master of things nuclear?" Alexander was intrigued once more.

"Umm.. his name is Nuclear Master."

"So his words are backed with Nuclear Weapons then"

"Kinda hard to Master Nuclear stuff otherwise isn't it?"

"Why in the world did you not offer him your whole entire nation if he would refrain from using such weapons?!?!"

"Because I don't go to war with people for having a hot personal trainer!"

"Too bad dude, those hostage trainers give you some of the best workouts ever, one time there was this Roman chick tha-"

"You're done Alexander" Metaliturtle had silenced him for the rest of the story.

"Good riddance," The other characters muttered almost in unison.

"Well, now what do we do?" Catherine asked.

"Seeing the current state of our Grecian friend, I believe our best bet would be charades." Shaka said.

"I am not letting you guys play charades while people are watching, someone always puts down "Mouthful" and things just get gross and pornographic." Metaliturtle ended them there in the formless world.

((Hey Nuclear Master I understand about computer problems, and it's really no big deal to me, I just thought this would be funny, I mean, who doesn't want to see a Drunken Armadillo Rebellion in our time? Not me sirrah... Not me.

But in all seriousness, I didn't mean to offend you, and if I did I can always edit!))

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