20-06-2004 02:55									#61
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	20-06-2004 04:33									#62
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Well, I'll be damned.

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	20-06-2004 07:45									#63
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Pah! I have 112358132134 men

	20-06-2004 08:13									#64
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quote: Originally posted by joncha Well, I'll be damned.

	20-06-2004 11:16									#65
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look if we dont get some agreement on military numbers NS will suck.. At least my number cruncher is realistic to real world. If we not going to hav eany rules then we are back to the god modding dayts. for me i not interested in all that crap..

i ran a poll, a majpority of people accepted the miltiary clac , we should move on and use it ....

	20-06-2004 11:19									#66
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For ocne, I agree with Rasputin. We can accept his calculator if we want to be strictly realistic, or we can use xiaodave's prposed system if we want to make things easier for small nations. However, virtually anything is better than the one Squeblish tried to use.

	20-06-2004 11:25									#67
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nd for the sake of all here i have even limited the numbe rof troops o placing overseas ... Azan down to 250,000 - 300,000 (instead of original posts of over 2mill) ) and only 5 divisions in the oil states..

i am trying to play this gmae to keep al lhappy, but sometimes it gets very frustrating ...

	20-06-2004 11:45									#68
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Look, I'm all for a military calculator. I think Ras has put alot of work into it. I'm just suspicious with the kinds of numbers it seems to put out.

But if it's used as a justification for Auldoninna holding its own against Al Mastif on Al Mastif's side of the world, then it's not an alternative to god-modding, it is god-modding.

	20-06-2004 12:08									#69
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how is it god modding , he has larger military than me.....

	20-06-2004 13:04									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin and here is the military stats... Al mastif

Actually, that's another criticism I've got about your newfangled calculator thingy.
Countries who don't appear to have a second, or third, industry really suffer.

	20-06-2004 13:09									#71
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quote: Originally posted by GeneralTacticus For ocne, I agree with Rasputin. We can accept his calculator if we want to be strictly realistic, or we can use xiaodave's prposed system if we want to make things easier for small nations. However, virtually anything is better than the one Squeblish tried to use.

B!tch, b!tch...
xiaodave's one would probably be best, as far as I'm concerned, although it reduces my advantage against Raspie considerably.

Actually, Al Mastif would probably be able to steamroller whatever Raspie tried to put in Apolyton Orii, regardless of the calculator used.
I'm bigger, and I'm on home turf.

	20-06-2004 13:23									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Squeblish Nef? Actually, that's another criticism I've got about your newfangled calculator thingy. Countries who don't appear to have a second, or third, industry really suffer.

not exactly, it only helps if you have AM or U as 2nd industrys..

if you have the weaker industrys as 2nd or 3rd it could actually harm your numbers...

	20-06-2004 13:24									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Squeblish Nef? B!tch, b!tch... xiaodave's one would probably be best, as far as I'm concerned, although it reduces my advantage against Raspie considerably. Actually, Al Mastif would probably be able to steamroller whatever Raspie tried to put in Apolyton Orii, regardless of the calculator used. I'm bigger, and I'm on home turf.

being bigger doesnt guarantee a win

Strategy and being dug in defencivly count a lot... but you send in your millions and we will see what happens...

	21-06-2004 16:43									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Squeblish Nef? B!tch, b!tch... xiaodave's one would probably be best, as far as I'm concerned, although it reduces my advantage against Raspie considerably.

	21-06-2004 17:01									#75
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quote: being bigger doesnt guarantee a win

No, but being on 'home turf', and actually being able to conduct free and open tactics, unimpeded by 100000000000000 miles of treacherous ocean pretty much does.

quote: Strategy and being dug in defencivly count a lot... but you send in your millions and we will see what happens...

Actually, Al Mastif doesn't favour 'mob tactics', as has been 'adequately' shown in FCL.

	21-06-2004 17:02									#76
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That Auldoninnan navy is damn big.

	21-06-2004 17:08									#77
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Big enough to maintain a supply line halfway across the region, into an area with practically zero coastline?

	21-06-2004 17:09									#78
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Nope.

	22-06-2004 07:57									#79
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quote: Originally posted by GeneralTacticus Big enough to maintain a supply line halfway across the region, into an area with practically zero coastline?

Don't crush his spirit, GT! The poor thing's got it hard enough as it is!

	22-06-2004 09:54									#80
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shucks as that region is now mine and under my control, i dont need as much supply.... pleant of resources and such like avaialble there.

We are moving our people into the region as fast as we can, was getting very crowded on our island home anyway.

AS for supply i havent been bad this time and sent millions of soldiers , just 4-6 divisions total so far. I was hoping to get some respect for doing that but no , oh well.

And from what i can see no action has occured yet that deems a huge military build up. and i would hope that if squib attacks that others would see this as an aggresive thing and take appropiate action.

	22-06-2004 14:06									#81
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quote: shucks as that region is now mine and under my control, i dont need as much supply.... pleant of resources and such like avaialble there.

Yes, but it may be hard to [i]get at these resources.

quote: AS for supply i havent been bad this time and sent millions of soldiers , just 4-6 divisions total so far. I was hoping to get some respect for doing that but no , oh well.

You can hardly deploy any more, can you?
You've already got heaps in FCL, probably some in Tassadaria, and maybe some in Boondi (haven't been paying much attention recently).

Oh, and you do realise that you may soon be fighting two wars at once, don't you?

quote: And from what i can see no action has occured yet that deems a huge military build up. and i would hope that if squib attacks that others would see this as an aggresive thing and take appropiate action.

Who said that I was going to attack?
I'm only going to defend my territory if strictly neccessary.

	22-06-2004 14:57									#82
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I haven't seen anyone saying you sent too many troops to be realistic; they're just not going to be enough to hold off Al MAstif if they decide to pulverise them.

	23-06-2004 14:10									#83
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And pulverise them, we shall.
Even if we have to 'mock up' an incident to do it.

	23-06-2004 14:19									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Squeblish Nef? Yes, but it may be hard to [i]get at these resources.

Why ??

quote: You can hardly deploy any more, can you? You've already got heaps in FCL, probably some in Tassadaria, and maybe some in Boondi (haven't been paying much attention recently).

Numbers in Azan reduced to allow them to goto the oil state.. None in Boondi war. We got some agents there that all...

quote: Oh, and you do realise that you may soon be fighting two wars at once, don't you?

Possibly, but in relaity we would stop one war to fight the other...

quote: Who said that I was going to attack? I'm only going to defend my territory if strictly neccessary.

Well im glad we not in your territory then

	23-06-2004 14:39									#85
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No, but I think you stated that you wished to reclaim that territory now occupied by my armed forces.
Besides, if I defeat you, I'll move on to your territory.

	23-06-2004 15:17									#86
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no the area you claimed we have never been in !!!!!

	23-06-2004 15:36									#87
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According to your map on the Oil Rush? thread, your companies operated in spot #188.

	24-06-2004 04:40									#88
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i thought you claimed spot 181 ??

	24-06-2004 04:46									#89
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latest map as i see from the threads...

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	24-06-2004 06:50									#90
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No, I went for #188, and #181.
Does this come as a shock to you?