15-07-2004 01:19									#31
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Man make Dudley Doright from the bullwinkle cartoons your GL

	15-07-2004 04:35									#32
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quote: Originally posted by vmxa1 Don't you at least have to be an indepent nation before one can call you a civilization? Last time I was in canada it had the Queen on its money. Yes that lower case was on purpose. They don't even have an army, but then neither does the AI. Mexcio could take them down, if we gave them an RoP.

The Queen of England is on our money because she's our head of state. She has no real authority in Canada and is only a figurehead. We keep her as head of state for sentmental reasons only, IMO. I think she's also still the head of state for Australia and New Zealand.

As for our armed forces, you're right. They're despicably small. However, the u.s. will never give Mexico a ROP. If they did, the next thing you know Mexican workers and settlers would be all over the country.

	15-07-2004 05:25									#33
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@ thread... pretty funny stuff!

	15-07-2004 05:59									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Xorbon However, the u.s. will never give Mexico a ROP. If they did, the next thing you know Mexican workers and settlers would be all over the country.

Now that is funny.

	15-07-2004 10:33									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Xorbon However, the u.s. will never give Mexico a ROP. If they did, the next thing you know Mexican workers and settlers would be all over the country.

I wonder if ROP's in a Civ sense would really work in the real world...

	15-07-2004 10:38									#36
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I could just imagine Chinese tanks running next to Washington D.C.

	15-07-2004 10:40									#37
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That would take alot of trust.

	16-07-2004 05:44									#38
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wow, Canada wants a place on the world stage....

but do they play Rugby???

	16-07-2004 06:42									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 I wonder if ROP's in a Civ sense would really work in the real world...

We DON'T have a RoP with Mexico, but we still have all their settler and worker units all over the place!

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quote: Originally posted by Shogun Gunner We DON'T have a RoP with Mexico, but we still have all their settler and worker units all over the place!

hey we (Australia) don't have one with them either... yet they are here too

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	16-07-2004 10:24									#41
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Damn, now that's a long swim!

	16-07-2004 10:45									#42
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I think its done by suicide curraghs and galleys!

	16-07-2004 12:47									#43
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They have a secret airbase nearby.

	16-07-2004 18:29									#44
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Mexicans / Victorians is there really a difference

	16-07-2004 18:36									#45
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LOL @ thread

	16-07-2004 23:18									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Xorbon For a UU, how about the Arctic Rangers?

How about the Avro Arrow. As soon as you finish with the construction, it gets dismantled, adding resources to the next build project.

	16-07-2004 23:21									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Xorbon However, the u.s. will never give Mexico a ROP. If they did, the next thing you know Mexican workers and settlers would be all over the country.

So what would be different?

	16-07-2004 23:39									#48
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I think they should just add the Canadian citylist to the US

	16-07-2004 23:58									#49
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Put them far enough down the list to make them completely unproductive, and it'll just add to the realism, Kucinich.

	20-07-2004 02:07									#50
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For serious though, maybe they should get a +1 food for arctic terrain, making them a viable and awesome power on cold maps!

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quote: Originally posted by Metaliturtle For serious though, maybe they should get a +1 food for arctic terrain, making them a viable and awesome power on cold maps!

Terrain bonuses may be a great idea for some other civs.

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Good call Vince!

	27-07-2004 23:35									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Willem You'll have to look at our early history for military leaders, we don't exactly have a tradition that creates them. A couple would be Brock and Montcalm, the ones who duked it out on the Plains of Abraham. I can't think of their first names though. Samuel de Champlain comes to mind as well, though I'm not really sure if he was a military leader or not.

True, those are two good choices, but you're a bit off on your history.

The battle on the Plains of Abraham (near Quebec city) was fought between the French led by Louis de Montcalm and the British led by James Wolfe.

Isaac Brock was a prominent figure from the War of 1812, where the British repelled the Americans after they had invaded Southern Ontario. Another prominent figure from this war was Tecumseh, the aboriginal leader who served as an ally to the British.

You could also add other famous military figures such as the famous WWI ace Billy Bishop, who gunned down numerous enemies over the skies of Europe, or Robert Brown, who gunned down the Red Baron of Germany, Manfred von Richtofen (pleasee excuse the spelling!), although there is still some controversy over that issue.

Check the history books and you'll find many more names that could fit the bill here, and although Canada's military history may not be as lengthy or bloody as others, it is still a very interesting subject!

	28-07-2004 21:20									#54
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I'd suggest Louis de Buade, count of Frontenac and Palluau (Frontenac for short). He was governor of New France in 1672-1682 and 1689-1698. It was through his work that New France finally had peace with the Iroquois, though he died shortly before the Great Peace of Montreal. He had also fought the British in Acadia and New England.

Another one would be Pierre Le Moyne d'Iberville (d'Iberville for short) who booted the English out of Hudson's Bay in 1690. He later sailed much in the Carribean and the Gulf of Mexico, capturing Nevis from the British in 1706.

What about Charles-Michel d'Irumberry de Salaberry (Salaberry for short)? In 1812 he beat off 4000 invading Americans with 1500 French Canadian militia men.

	28-07-2004 21:32									#55
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quote: Originally posted by gunkulator Some Canadian Scientists: Alexander Graham Bell - well, sort of. He wasn't Canadian but he spent over 30 years in Canada off and on and made some of his breakthrough discovers while in Canada.

doesn't really matter.

albert einstein was german, wrote the major part of his work in switzerland and only moved in his older years to the US.
that didn't stop firaxis from putting him in as american SGL... so go ahead, take A G Bell

	29-07-2004 08:42									#56
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Edison would be a better American SGL.

	29-07-2004 10:00									#57
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[This is as politically incorrect as I get...]
[Very funny thread... NM, are you paying attention? ]

We need a new civ trait: Entertainment.

Windsor and Montreal... need I say more? The government does whatever the f*ck'all it wants, and the men in the populace just go along with it.

	29-07-2004 10:16									#58
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How about Mr. Litre as a scientific leader ?

	30-07-2004 10:37									#59
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Would not the UU be any that could burn down the White House? (as in 1812 - although, some may like it now??)

	19-08-2004 18:27									#60
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quote: Originally posted by vmxa1 Don't you at least have to be an indepent nation before one can call you a civilization? Last time I was in canada it had the Queen on its money. Yes that lower case was on purpose. They don't even have an army, but then neither does the AI. Mexcio could take them down, if we gave them an RoP.

Canada became fully independent in 1984. Yes, the Queen is on the money, that's because she is head of state. She is on the money of a lot of other countries too (Australia, New Zealand &c).

Canada has an army, but its relatively small. It does seem to feel the need to go round invading other countries, unlike some I could mention. Canada vs Mexico? That would be ineresting . . . maybe they could use Kansas as the battleground