27-07-2004 00:21									#91
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Fair enough and to be perfectly honest, if you didn't draft him, I would have.

This time, however, I found it difficult to pass on Torry Holt.

	27-07-2004 00:24									#92
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It's a nice pick. He was almost as good as Moss last year.

	27-07-2004 00:32									#93
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It's hard to tell who Bulger will go to this year. He might go to Bruce more this year, or just spread the ball aroung generally.

	27-07-2004 00:33									#94
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But Holt has more of that breakaway speed that makes for 60 yard TDs. Bruce is the possession reciever.

	27-07-2004 00:38									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui But Holt has more of that breakaway speed that makes for 60 yard TDs. Bruce is the possession reciever.

Don't get me wrong. Holt's abilities have certainly surpassed Bruce's and Bruce it aging a bit, but it will be better if Bulger spreads the ball around more this year.

	27-07-2004 00:43									#96
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Bruce did have 69 catches, so it wasn't like he was just standing around not getting the ball. The problem is that without Faulk, the Rams O loses a dimension. It's easier to focus on the WR and Holt is better at losing his defender, IMO.

	27-07-2004 00:49									#97
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Holt had massive numbers last year, 117 catches for nearly 1,700 yards and twelve TDs.

It's hard to match that, but even if his production decreased to 100 catches for 1,400 yards and ten TDs or so, I wouldn't be complaining.

	27-07-2004 01:14									#98
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1 - Vlad - BC Stoner Bears
2 - Spaced Cowboy - TEAM NAME
3 - Stuie - City Hobgoblins
4 - Zopperoni - Paydirt Pierluigis
5 - Imran - Georgia Gaffers
6 - Supersneak - Portland Rage
7 - Kidicious - Fresno Freakers
8 - Sloth - TEAM NAME
9 - Emperor Fabulous - Boston Emperors
10 - Berzerker
11 - Duke o' York - TEAM NAME
12 - Jonny - Divine Demons

1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.04 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.05 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.06 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.07 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
1.08 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.09 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.10 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.11 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)
1.12 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)

2.12 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.11 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.10 Rudi Johnson RB (Cinc)
2.09 Terrell Owens WR (PHI)
2.08 Marvin Harrison WR (IND)
2.07 Stephen Davis RB (CAR)
2.06 Brett Favre QB (GB)
2.05 Fred Taylor RB (JAC)
2.04 Torry Holt WR (StL)
2.03 Ricky Williams - JUST KIDDING! Travis Henry RB (Buf)
2.02
2.01

Spaced Cowboy is on the clock.

	27-07-2004 01:20									#99
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OK...I don't know who authorized my BAPAY...I still had time left, but I don't want Favre.
Give me Kevan Barlow.

1 - Vlad - BC Stoner Bears
2 - Spaced Cowboy - TEAM NAME
3 - Stuie - City Hobgoblins
4 - Zopperoni - Paydirt Pierluigis
5 - Imran - Georgia Gaffers
6 - Supersneak - Portland Rage
7 - Kidicious - Fresno Freakers
8 - Sloth - TEAM NAME
9 - Emperor Fabulous - Boston Emperors
10 - Berzerker
11 - Duke o' York - TEAM NAME
12 - Jonny - Divine Demons

1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.04 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.05 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.06 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.07 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
1.08 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.09 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.10 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.11 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)
1.12 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)

2.12 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.11 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.10 Rudi Johnson RB (Cinc)
2.09 Terrell Owens WR (PHI)
2.08 Marvin Harrison WR (IND)
2.07 Stephen Davis RB (CAR)
2.06 Kevan Barlow (SF)
2.05 Fred Taylor RB (JAC)
2.04 Torry Holt WR (StL)
2.03 Ricky Williams - JUST KIDDING! Travis Henry RB (Buf)
2.02
2.01

	27-07-2004 01:23									#100
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And I suggest that you guys don't take it upon yourselves to BAPAY people without some consultation with the Commish...that's bullshit.
The first post clearly states Monday as being the BAPAY start date and it is only 1pm my time.

If necessary, I will normally get a PM at CG.

	27-07-2004 01:39									#101
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Actually it says we won't start in with the BAPAYs until Monday. Nothing saying that 12:01 Monday was the start date. Sorry about that though, I'm sure none of us mind you changing your pick to Barlow.

	27-07-2004 01:53									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker Yes Supersneak is up and he has till tomorrow morning 9 est. With the 18 hours he has already used up that's fair. I won't be holding to a strict 24 hour rule but if someone doesn't pick for ~2 days they'll be bapayed and then they'll get a strict 24 bapay limit the next time

If you're going to be in law, you'd better do your homework a bit more thoroughly before you start using words like "actually".

Anyhow, I'm sure none of you are going to cry over Barlow...he's just SF's starter now and will be a top 10 back by the end of the season.

Going out on some limbs this league--two players with new roles so far.

	27-07-2004 03:05									#103
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Whoops... looks like we all ignored Berz's post . Well what do you expect when the Commish is away .

	27-07-2004 03:18									#104
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No problem...but I hope if I'm ever on trial you're the prosecuting attorney.

	27-07-2004 03:38									#105
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Bruce did have 69 catches, so it wasn't like he was just standing around not getting the ball. The problem is that without Faulk, the Rams O loses a dimension. It's easier to focus on the WR and Holt is better at losing his defender, IMO.

I think they really needed to go to Faulk in the air more last year.

	27-07-2004 05:24									#106
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quote: If you're going to be in law, you'd better do your homework a bit more thoroughly before you start using words like "actually".

Please address your critique to Imran

	27-07-2004 05:32									#107
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I said Supersneak had until tomorrow morning and you guys are BAPAYing him the very same day BAPAY's begin?

Anyway, here's the correct list from what I can see:

1 - Vlad - BC Stoner Bears
2 - Spaced Cowboy - TEAM NAME
3 - Stuie - City Hobgoblins
4 - Zopperoni - Paydirt Pierluigis
5 - Imran - Georgia Gaffers
6 - Supersneak - Portland Rage
7 - Kidicious - Fresno Freakers
8 - Sloth - TEAM NAME
9 - Emperor Fabulous - Boston Emperors
10 - Berzerker
11 - Duke o' York - TEAM NAME
12 - Jonny - Divine Demons

1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.04 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.05 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.06 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.07 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
1.08 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.09 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.10 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.11 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)
1.12 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)

2.12 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.11 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.10 Rudi Johnson RB (Cinc)
2.09 Terrell Owens WR (PHI)
2.08 Marvin Harrison WR (IND)
2.07 Stephen Davis RB (CAR)
2.06 Kevan Barlow (SF)
2.05 Fred Taylor RB (JAC)
2.04 Torry Holt WR (StL)
2.03 Travis Henry RB (Buf)
2.02
2.01

	27-07-2004 07:01									#108
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quote: Well what do you expect when the Commish is away .

Read the thread? Or do you require my physical presence for that?

And another thing, some of you are asking that PMs be sent to you when it's your turn. It's your responsibility to pay attention to the thread. I have enough to do without spending 18 hours a day in this thread waiting for your turn to come up. Sheesh!

You guys can BAPAY if 2 days/48 hours go by and neither the manager in question or me post, my computer has been acting strange lately and I'm a bit worried I'll lose access...

	27-07-2004 08:02									#109
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After drafting, everyone should just PM the next manager to say he's on the clock. It's pretty bleepin' easy, and the Commish has enough to deal with. Quick, simple, and keeps it moving.

	27-07-2004 08:10									#110
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But people shouldn't rely solely on PMs. They should check the OT every once in a while.

Lord knows if I can find time, almost anyone can.

	27-07-2004 09:34									#111
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quote: And another thing, some of you are asking that PMs be sent to you when it's your turn.

I do it in my league

	27-07-2004 11:58									#112
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That's nice, I won't And I doubt it, that would mean you're watching the thread darn near 24/7.

quote: After drafting, everyone should just PM the next manager to say he's on the clock.

That would help.

quote: But people shouldn't rely solely on PMs. They should check the OT every once in a while.

Yup, once people expect a PM and it isn't sent we'll all be waiting for someone who thinks they don't need to check in until they get a PM that was never sent. It isn't too much to ask that people who signed up for this to check the thread once a day or leave a list with someone.

	27-07-2004 12:03									#113
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Anyway, Spaced Cowboy has been on the clock for almost 12 hours now and I did send him a PM about 5 hours ago.

	27-07-2004 12:07									#114
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Knowing him, he won't be on until seven or eight in the morning or so.

	27-07-2004 12:58									#115
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Berz, that list is a cluster****.

	27-07-2004 15:41									#116
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I'm back now, but things seem to be progressing quite slowly so far, so it'll probably be the weekend by the time my next pick comes up and I'll get a BAPAY.
Good work Berz. I know that the QBs don't score that highly in the Yahoo ratings, but it's nice to have the Vikings on the teamsheet early on.
Oh, and my team name is The Priapic Love Wow.

	27-07-2004 16:34									#117
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Duke, check the thread everyday and more often when your pick nears. You'll be picking before the weekend. Don't let the current lag fool you, most people here are good about making picks in a timely fashion and it can really speed up.

Oh, I had to get you a Viking and since the best RBs were gone it was either Moss or Culpepper and you had Culpepper at the top of your list so I gave you him and took the other. Corey was your third RB listed and the other 2 were gone and even though RBs were getting taken quick I figured Culpepper stood a better chance of being grabbed by Jonny than Dillon...

Also, I'm junking your list since it didn't help me much past the first 3-4 picks. I really didn't know who you wanted first but figured Culp was a safe bet. If you want to PM me a new list, rank the players in order so I know your priorities.

SPACED COWBOY! You're up, and don't forget that after you pick Vlad has 2 picks and we're right back to you. So, if you can't hang around for Vlad to make his picks, send Imran or Zopperoni a private message with at least 3 players you want in case Vlad grabs 'em. I won't be around until late afternoon or early evening.

	27-07-2004 17:57									#118
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Sorry folks, I try to check in more often.

1 - Vlad - BC Stoner Bears
2 - Spaced Cowboy - TEAM NAME
3 - Stuie - City Hobgoblins
4 - Zopperoni - Paydirt Pierluigis
5 - Imran - Georgia Gaffers
6 - Supersneak - Portland Rage
7 - Kidicious - Fresno Freakers
8 - Sloth - TEAM NAME
9 - Emperor Fabulous - Boston Emperors
10 - Berzerker
11 - Duke o' York - TEAM NAME
12 - Jonny - Divine Demons

1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.04 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.05 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.06 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.07 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
1.08 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.09 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.10 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.11 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)
1.12 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)

2.12 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.11 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.10 Rudi Johnson RB (Cinc)
2.09 Terrell Owens WR (PHI)
2.08 Marvin Harrison WR (IND)
2.07 Stephen Davis RB (CAR)
2.06 Kevan Barlow (SF)
2.05 Fred Taylor RB (JAC)
2.04 Torry Holt WR (StL)
2.03 Travis Henry RB (Buf)
2.02 Donovan McNabb QB (Phi)
2.01

Pm'd Vlad!

	27-07-2004 18:24									#119
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Berz, just dump the list. I'll PM someone a much shorter list just before I go for the weekend, because it's highly unlikely that we'll get more than 2 rounds in over a weekend, what with the time differences. Otherwise BAPAY me.

	27-07-2004 21:31									#120
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