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Rex Little is offline Rex Little
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May 1999
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Heinlein and Spider Robinson definitely; not sure who I'd put in the #3 spot. I like Turtledove a lot better than most of the posters here seem to, but not quite enough to list him. Maybe the Larry Niven/Jerry Pournelle partnership, although neither one alone would make my list.

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My favourites as of this week:


Philip K. Dick

J.G. Ballard

Samuel R. Delany

Ursula K. Le Guin

Greg Egan

Thomas Disch

Joanna Russ

Jack McDevitt

Peter Hamilton

Paul McAuley

Robert Charles Wilson

Roger Zelazny


with Bruce Sterling and William Gibson and Kim Stanley Robinson bringing up the rear.

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Asimov, Dick, and Herbert

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Oct 2000
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Verne, Heinlen, Le Guin.

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Sep 1999
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Peter David
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asimov, clarke, niven.

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Mar 2002
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I would say Stanislaw Lem, Philip K. Dick and... Orwell? But I don't think 1984 is SF, it's more satire than anything else. BTW, was Asimov one of those functional autistic persons? I don't remember how they call them. I've heard him in an interview and he sounded somewhat autistic.

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Dec 2002
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Asimov, Heinlein, Bradbury


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Jan 2000
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Turtledove happens to be one of the worse Sci-Fi Fantasy authors that anyone has ever recommended to me

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I have to agree. Kind of interesting ideas horribly wrought. The man is simply a bad writer. I think 95% of all SF I have read is better than the WW2 series that a friend recommended.

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My Favourites:

Octavia Butler (Xenogenesis Trilogy/Wild Seed)
Bruce Sterling (Holy Fire)
Heinlein (The Moon is a Harsh Mistress)

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Aug 2001
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Best SF writer: Le Guin
Worst SF writer: Turtledove

Just discover Le Guin in the past year and her writing is incredible: well-developed characters, excellent descriptions, strong plots, well chosen words, etc.

Turtledove has some good ideas, but he doesn't seem to understand that books need a central plot. He just rambles on in all different directions. The stories never end. He uses too many characters and too many sub-plots.

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Apr 2000
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Stanislaw Lem!

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Isaac Asimov & Ian M. Banks* are my top two without question.

The third I'm not sure about...I thought of Douglas Adams, but while HHGTTG is awesome, others have written much more. Dune (Herbert) was interesting, but really waned after the first three(?) books.

*Any North American sci-fi fans who haven't read something by Banks (UK author) are doing themselves a disservice. And if you like his sci-fi, try one of his fiction works, which are also great. The first fiction book of his I read was "Wasp Factory" - a delightfully twisted story.

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Dec 2001
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Asimov, A.E. Van Vogt & Philip K. Dick

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Other than H.G Wells, every science fiction author is a terrible writer.

The War of the Worlds is one of the few SF novels I've read more than once. IMHO it is the best SF novel ever written.

Dune is another.

I don't suppose you would allow me Brave New World or A Clockwork Orange?

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Why the Hell not?


Because he writes alternate history, not sf.

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Asimov, Poul Anderson, Charles Sheffield

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Turtledove sucks! Sorry, it's been a few posts since anyone mentioned this fact

Herbert, Heinlein, and Poul Anderson (although his more recent work is crap).

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I have one all time favorite SF author, and that is Stanislaw Lem. I read a lot more authors in my SF period, but my interest in this genre has vanished, so I don't even know what's good right now.

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Card (surprised no one's mentioned him yet), Herbert, Adams (or if that doesn't count, Asimov).

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I don't read much sci-fi... but from what I have read I would have to say;

1. Douglas Adams

2. Rob Grant

3. Ray Bradbury

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I don't read much sci-fi...
What kind of scum are you.

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Turtledove has some good ideas, but he doesn't seem to understand that books need a central plot. He just rambles on in all different directions. The stories never end. He uses too many characters and too many sub-plots.


That's just his WWII series.

His WWI series (well, civil war, WWI, soon to get to WWII) is extremely good. All the sublpots aren't supposed to end.

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Even were I to accept your definition, which I don't, her certainly doesn't rate in the top ten SF authors of all time, let alone the top 3.


Alternate History is a form of Speculative Fiction just like Fantasy and SciFi -- which are often though not always filed jointly in bookstores. I'd say it's closer to SciFi because, whever it breaks the laws of physics, it does it in SciFi ways.

And, yes, Turtledove does suck.



Not all alternate history breaks the laws of physics. How did say, "How Few Remain" break the laws of physics? Not all ah involves time travel.

In fact the AH purists at Soc.history.what-if would deny that time travel stories ARE proper AH, precisely because they break the laws of physics, and so belong with Sci Fi.

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Card (surprised no one's mentioned him yet)


He's close, very much so, but I like Bova a bit better...

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Golden Age of SciFi - Heinlein, no contest.

Post golden age, the start of modern hard SF - Niven, who I've noticed is the most mentioned author in this thread from that period.

Modern hard SF - David Brin (Startide Rising) and Vernor Vinge (A Fire in the Deep). Honorable mention to Greg Bear, awesome imagination but I just wish he could write as well as the other two.

If Turtledove isn't SF, neither is Adams. First, if you've read his Dirk Gently stories, the man got lucky the first time through. They are absolutely terrible. Secondly, he is a humorist and a satirist (who I don't happen to find funny at all) who uses SF as a vehicle. It's like the movie Alien, which is a horror flick in an SF setting. Thirdly, it's one of the areas my wife and I profoundly disagree, and as long as she doesn't play her original BBC radio broadcast of the Hitchhiker's Guide in my prescence, we can agree to disagree.

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For "serious" SF, it would be Herbert, Anderson and Asimov, I guess.

Among less serious works, I really like the Hitchhiker's guide, and the first Dirk Gently isn't that bad either.

The Strugatsky brothers deserve a mention too.

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In no particular order:

Isaac Asimov, Ray Bradbury, Strugatsky brothers.

Asimov's got great novles and stories, everything. Bradbury is usually great, though some of his stories are, IMO, not good. Strugatsky brothers are pretty amazing at all their works, and some are simply outstanding. Don't think any translation to English can do them justice. I read all three of these mostly in their original languages.

Other mentions. Stanislav Lem, for Solaris - he has a few good humorous stories, though, but Solaris is a marvel. Robert Shekley - again, some great short stories, though his novels I don't find as enjoyable. Aleksandr Belayev - several excellent novels. Arthur Clarke - he's got some pretty amazing style, and his optimism is a nice switch sometimes.

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What kind of scum are you.


I'm of the fantastic variety.

 
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