15-10-2004 08:30									#32
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Okay. Here's (*bump*) another one.

This is where the big plans were originally being formated.

	22-10-2004 20:18									#33
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So we've had - in our first 43 years - 3 pact suggestions:


With the Angels:

quote: Posted on September 20th by Kassiopeia We have discussed alliance possibilities before, as is apparent in this thread - and I continue to think that the Angels would be a good choice for a pact. Feel free to convince me otherwise though - we can bring it to a poll if need be, but with the current levels of activity a consensus may suffice.

quote: Posted onSeptember 20th by maniac Spartans and Angels could make a great team: imagine us banding together against one of the other teams: they probe rape them and we follow with an invasion.

With the Gaians:

quote: Posted on September 20 by Zeiter With this plan in mind, I would favor allying with the Gaians, believe it or not!!! Here are the reasons: 1. The Gaians are now relatively strong. Instead of being a liability as they might have been before, they will now be an asset. 2. They will be one of the weakest militarily. Thus, I'd rather face them for the final conflict than a more competitive military power. 3. The Morganites and Data Angels will have the majority of the SPs, will they not? Thus, I'd like to take them out first before they get too strong.

With Morgan:

quote: Posted on October 16 by Googlie It's maybe time to sound Morgan out fully on a pact 'till level-8 tech discoveries, shared leapfrog research, agreement as to SP's etc, followed by a "thereafter may the best team win"

Interesting !!!

	24-10-2004 05:29									#34
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We can't make a serious move (on expansion through conquest) in world domination until we can produce missile infantry (6-1-1). These only require two rows of minerals. Through whichever means (command centers, bio-enhancement centers, monoliths, SE decision, monoliths), they should (have to be) elite morale also. Nine attack + 25% against bases, move two. This is pretty wicked and cheap to manufacture combination. Hopefully, we can then also (in the same or next turn) upgrade these to drop units. Suplemented by drop 1-3-1's (give them trance, and/or resonance armor also), and 1-1-1's police units, and drop infantry probes.
All these can be quickly built (even if we're in POWER).

Trick is to have sufficient enough core bases that can produce these guys. Say at least 12 that do only this for several turns. Time to start thinking and planning for the future is now (!!!).

I'm typing quick, cause I have to go somewhere...

Anybody else got a better idea / way of doing these for how the game is developing at the moment? And I don't mean along political lines. A sound strategy of keeping the opposition divided and quarelling amongst themselves is crucial also.

	24-10-2004 05:38									#35
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Churn out Hoplites for garrison duty, and assemble the rovers at VV. Get 2 trannies there. In 2147 sail for University base. In 2149, when we get Doc Init, equip the rovers with impact and amphipods

2150 we've captured University Base and empty trannies are sailing back to VV to board 2 Hoplites and 2 Crypteia for the "we know it's bound to come" attempt by Zak to probe back his HQ (assuming he doesn't immediately surrender to us)

2154 Rovers are all healed, Hoplites and Crypteia are in place in Uni HQ, and rovers move on down the road to the next juicy target.......

Why is that scenario impossible?

	24-10-2004 05:43									#36
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Ding dang darn it!

This is my last - last - last post!!!
I haveta go now.

:quote: Why is that sceanario impossible? :quote:

ItS possibles. Thats fibes. Above me talking about human controolled factions. Projecting power in a big way. making big moves. etc. etc.

	25-10-2004 02:31									#37
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(laugh!)

Everyone understand my last post? Or do I have to translate...?

	25-10-2004 02:57									#38
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I caught the gist - I assumed with the pluralising of "impossible" that "fibes" was actually "fibe", and that it really meant "fine (big thumbs like mine, missing the keys while in a rush)

At least it made sense that way

was I close?

	26-10-2004 01:59									#39
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Hey. Pretty good. You should be a school teacher (grin).

This is how I would have typed it having had more time to correct grammar and spelling:

It is possible. Thats fine. Above, I'm talking about human controlled factions. Projecting power in a big way. Being able to make game breaking moves, and so on.

	04-11-2004 05:45									#40
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Given that we now possess Social Psych - and the 3 other teams lack it - and given that current thinking is that the gaians are researching just that, should our diplomatic corps try to get something of value from the Gaians (and the other 2 factions) for Social Psych?

(and as we also have 2 of the follow-ups from Soc Psych - Secrets and Ethical Calculus - is a more complicated trade/sale possibly attainable? - maybe get the G's to change to Doc Loyalty and pass it to us in part payment - would save us from trying to probe Yang)

	04-11-2004 18:52									#41
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I'd be in favour of such technological cooperation with any faction.

	04-11-2004 23:04									#42
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Just suggest the trades to me and I'll get the discussions going, considering our inherent disadvantage in tech it's only good that we cash in what we can, especially since we haven't had Gov elections yet.

	06-11-2004 06:42									#43
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We've got a concrete proposal with the Gaians running. Perhaps we could also let out feelers towards the Morganites and Angels? Something like:
"The Junta is pleased with the current succesful technological cooperation between our factions, as proven by our latest trade. We would therefore like to explore the possibility of deeper cooperation on this field. yadde yadde yadde... We have a large collection of techs, making it likely you are currently researching a tech we have. We were therefore wondering if you would be interesting in the possibility of leapfrogging? etcetera etcetera

	06-11-2004 07:02									#44
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Sure. Was there any other proposals I should throw out? (To recap; like I said in the Gaian thread, I'm a tad occupied with my novel )

	07-11-2004 05:40									#45
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Thanks! And good luck with yout novel!

I had the proposal to offer the Gaians that we sell DocMob together to the Angels for a sum of credits, and each get half of the profit. This to prevent we compete each other to death to get at least out of the tech. I haven't heard any comments yet on this proposal though, so I don't know what others think about it.

	07-11-2004 19:08									#46
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I'm fine with it and can propose it right away to them. I imagine a communique in both embassies will be required.

	07-11-2004 19:16									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac I had the proposal to offer the Gaians that we sell DocMob together to the Angels for a sum of credits, and each get half of the profit. This to prevent we compete each other to death to get at least out of the tech. I haven't heard any comments yet on this proposal though, so I don't know what others think about it.

See my comments in the Gaian thread

	07-11-2004 23:09									#48
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Suggested "open letter" to the Angels and the Gaians:

quote: Whereas Morgan Industries, with their possession of the Planetary Transit System, will likely have 30 - 40 size 3 bases within a decade and whereas The Hive, currently producing (as they are) 15 impact-weaponed units, and are researching Gatling weapons, will soon be the dominant military power and whereas the University and the PeaceKeepers are currently friendly towards the Spartan Federation (and thus can be "helped' along certain lines of research through judicious trades) we, the Spartan Federation, propose: that the Spartan Federation, the Gaian Federation and the Data Angels form a temporary 3-way alliance that we co-ordinate our respective research efforts and covert operations activities that we attempt thusly to acquire Fusion Power by 2160, after which the temporary alliance will dissolve unless it is agreed to pursue other common goals such as Doc:Air power or MMI signed on behalf of the Spartan Federation: Lt-Col Maniac; Lt-Col Googlie

Give it a try?