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Rhothaerill is offline Rhothaerill

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Mostly wondering what that word "allies" means.

Or were you planning on letting us have a share of the victory?


Allies meant that we wouldn't attack each other. I made a point about that in the original discussion. I could have Egyptian lands, Con could have Hittite lands, and Beta could have Medean lands and we wouldn't interfere with each other.

I guess the alliance is broken now.

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Allies meant that we wouldn't attack each other. I made a point about that in the original discussion. I could have Egyptian lands, Con could have Hittite lands, and Beta could have Medean lands and we wouldn't interfere with each other.

I guess the alliance is broken now.




So I was to be property of Con Enterprises, eh? Guess all that stuff earlier was just his attempt at scouting his newfound acquisitions ...

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Allies meant that we wouldn't attack each other. I made a point about that in the original discussion. I could have Egyptian lands, Con could have Hittite lands, and Beta could have Medean lands and we wouldn't interfere with each other.

I guess the alliance is broken now.


Nice to know I was playing by myself, against these secret early deals. Seems like Roth is to close to stop at this point.

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Nice to know I was playing by myself, against these secret early deals. Seems like Roth is to close to stop at this point.


It was a late deal that started just before your war with Beta began. For me, I was only interested in keeping my eastern borders secure while I was busy in Egypt.

And yes, unless something catastrophic happens I should have enough victory points by the end of next turn.

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lol

I guess this is why i don't horribly like secret deals. I play with them, and make them as necessary since they're permissible and I should play as hard as I can, but I prefer announced alliances. There's no such thing as espionage (at least not of the diplomacy part), and that makes secret alliances and whatnot pretty crippling. I prefer out-in-the-open alliances...

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It was a late deal that started just before your war with Beta began. For me, I was only interested in keeping my eastern borders secure while I was busy in Egypt.

And yes, unless something catastrophic happens I should have enough victory points by the end of next turn.


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Yo! Beta! It looks like the turn is still with you....

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Maybe we should just stop playing so Rhoth can't win

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Maybe we should just stop playing so Rhoth can't win


Evil man.

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Yeh, sounds good to me

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Though if you want to see evidence of somebody REALLY playing a game that has no hope but still going strong, look at Witt and I in c3c tourney ...

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Evil man.


Well with the way you keep "sneaking up on us" we are forced to resort to desparate measures.......

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My victory point scores in these games have always been open for all to see.

Is it my fault if you choose not to look?

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Save to snoopy. Sorry for the delay folks. Almost caught up.

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1890 to Wittlich

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Lets see if Witt gets up early or sleeps in today.

he is such a rack monster

(Dam college puke)

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Bah!! Well, congrats on your win Rhoth.

For what it's worth, the save has been sent to Con so that he can see Rhoth's victory screen.

ie, 1890BC Turn sent to Con.

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Might as well give it to akkula

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Bah!! Well, congrats on your win Rhoth.

For what it's worth, the save has been sent to Con so that he can see Rhoth's victory screen.

ie, 1890BC Turn sent to Con.


Did Snoopy attack me and lose some units???? I was still 85 points away at the end of my turn.

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He must have, since the game was singing your praises Rhoth when it came time for me to perform my moves. Any how, congrats to you just the same.

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bah! humbug!

Just like GP. A little too late waking up and smelling the roses.

Congrats Jared! Well played!

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Thanks guys.

Remember snoopy, everything I did in this game isn't available for you to use in the one starting up. Do the exact opposite and you should be fine.

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Umm, got it. (If I ever get that save?

Congrats

I didn't lose enough to give you the win, but i got you to 5485. Although I did kill off your stack on the iron, which made me feel better.

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Umm, got it. (If I ever get that save?

Congrats

I didn't lose enough to give you the win, but i got you to 5485. Although I did kill off your stack on the iron, which made me feel better.


Ah, Paddy must have attacked me with a spearman or the like on his turn then. Thanks Paddy.

And now I must apologize to Paddy for using Egypt so brutally. As snoop has noted, I had a plan for winning the game and it involved the conquest of Egypt, solely because Egypt was my closest neighbor. My stacks of companion infantry were able to invade Egypt quickly and didn't have to face defenders on mountains and hills. Plus the three large cities on the flood plains of the Nile gave me a good deal of my victory points.

Even so, I probably wouldn't have lasted against the alliance I knew was coming. I half suspected that the defensive alliance I had signed with Babylon and Sumeria wouldn't last when con started probing my borders, and I knew it was gone last turn when I saw a few stacks of Beta's units heading west.

That's why I made such a strong push through Egypt as quickly as possible. I wanted to end the game before the full brunt of being attacked from all of you could happen. Obviously if you all started attacking me I could have let up on Egypt (and destroyed the cities I had taken) and sent much of my troops home for defense, but it still likely wouldn't have been enough. My land is highly defensible on it's outer ring with many mountains and hills, but I never once built a fast-moving unit (never had horse resources) for quick strikes, etc.

Snoop's maneuver to potentially cut my iron resource caught me off guard as I forgot to protect it against that (and should have positioned my city better in the first place). Not having my second iron resource hooked up, and not even having a city or road within 4 tiles of it, gave me a bit of pause, but I decided to try to wipe Snoopy's units from the area before he could actually cut my iron, rather than waiting for him to do it at an inopportune moment. I actually should have done it the turn before when there was only a spearman and a settler, but I tried to do it diplomatically and request he move away. When the next turn came around and Snoop not only hadn't moved away but had reinforced his stack with several horsemen and other units was when I declared war. Unfortunately I didn't have enough units to destroy all his (after having a little bit of bad luck with the RNG) and he was able to cut my iron.

By the way Snoop, if the game hadn't ended I would have had iron hooked back up in about 4 turns. I had a plan in the works to use a few workers to create colonies on the stone and the iron in the south, then engulf it with a city to protect it from conquest. I would have been out of my golden age by then, but I could still produce 2-turn companion infantry in several of my cities. During the golden age I was producing 1-turn companion infantry in a couple of my cities which is why I had close to 40 of them toward the end.

In any case, thanks for the game guys. It was fun. Now if only I hadn't been named benwa73 the whole time.

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lol... Actually, the settler was a complete accident. I had no idea it was your only iron, and given the fact that I had like 7 in my territory, I assumed you had plenty. I was going to settle a bit east. But, I had been gearing up for the attack, once it was realized you were the danger. Unfortunately, i was the only one prepared, mostly because switching gears from attacking Medea to attacking Phoenicia was simple, as my launching-point was the same for both.

I was at that point starting to produce CI, and was going to be starting my GA as soon as we fought a battle (assuming my wheelie guys could win a fight, anywho). But, mostly i was counting on Beta and Con to come through before I got in trouble too much, and threaten your actual cities. My attack was never really more than a large diversion that hopefully would pay off eventually, but at the beginning I was hoping to force you to redirect some egyptian forces my way. Too bad you were able to win before I was close enough to force it ...

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lol... Actually, the settler was a complete accident. I had no idea it was your only iron, and given the fact that I had like 7 in my territory, I assumed you had plenty. I was going to settle a bit east. But, I had been gearing up for the attack, once it was realized you were the danger. Unfortunately, i was the only one prepared, mostly because switching gears from attacking Medea to attacking Phoenicia was simple, as my launching-point was the same for both.


Heh, an accident. If I hadn't already been so close that would have put a crimp into my plans for sure.

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I was at that point starting to produce CI, and was going to be starting my GA as soon as we fought a battle (assuming my wheelie guys could win a fight, anywho). But, mostly i was counting on Beta and Con to come through before I got in trouble too much, and threaten your actual cities. My attack was never really more than a large diversion that hopefully would pay off eventually, but at the beginning I was hoping to force you to redirect some egyptian forces my way. Too bad you were able to win before I was close enough to force it ...


After the iron gambit failed I was planning to hole up in my territory and make you come to me, hence needing less units up there and could defend my eastern front too. I was already building up more forces on my eastern front just in case. Even though I signed a treaty with Beta and con, I didn't want to completely leave myself open in case one or the other decided to use it against me.

And believe it or not...I really was trying to live up to my end of the alliance. Even though I sent much of my force into Egypt I had several units on the way to Medea before Snoop put units in a position to threaten me.

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* Paddy the Scot and his cabinet come out of the far western desert, wearing the skins of camels and carrying clubs and spears

Grrrr

we will never allow you to take all of us



* Paddy the Scot looks around at all the people sitting around enjoying the peace and prosperity of the new age

Huh

what is going on here???

* Paddy the Scot reaches for his jug of jungle juice and takes a long swig

oh bugger



ok where is the pub then?





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IS THIS GAME OVER.

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IS THIS GAME OVER.


Yes. I gained enough victory points to win.

 
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