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Wittlich is offline Wittlich

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Ah....so it all comes down to the control of a luxury item.

And by Beta's account, it looks like the first shot was fired by akulla. Can you confirm Beta's account akulla, or do you have a different story to tell?

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I can confirm Beta's account.

Beta is nothing but a peace loving Sumarian Farmer trying to make his way in the world (with the assistance of the agricultural trait I might add).

Up to now he has really made nothing but Ploughs.

Now he is forced to beat them into swords.

I live right next to him and we have had nothing but cordial relations. We would have both been happy to attempt to build our way to victory.

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Ah....so it all comes down to the control of a luxury item.



Well - sort of. I think akulla's main issue was geography. But then - my perspective is - first come - first served.

con - thanks for your support. And yes - it has been a relatively peaceful game up until now. So maybe we should all thank akulla for spicing up the game.

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This is true, the game was rather quiet. At least now we have some action!

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mmm ... action.

Turn to the Paddy of Oz.

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2550 to Lord Wittlich

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2250BC Turn sent to Con.

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Just to get one thing straight, I did fire the first shot (arrow).

You can call it coincidence or what ever you want - but both the Sumerians and Hittites entered my territory on the same turn and where both within one space of one of my cities. The military actions that I brought were within the boarders of my territory, and I was well within my Imperial Rights to protect my citizens from any raiding parties. If, no aggression was their intent then they should not have entered my territory.

There are two old Meadian proverbs I would now like to relate.

Should you wake from a slumber, and a stranger is in your home. “Shoot first, ask questions later”.

An old Hellian once said a picture is worth a thousand words, so I have attached a scroll that was traced from the memory of captured enemy soldiers. (see attached)

My question is why did they enter my territory, if they mean non-aggression?

I have no quarrel with the Bab’s and only want peace. I would behead the eunuch that negotiated your Defensive Agreement with the Sumerians; it was obviously bad counsel for the Sumerians are on the Offensive. Do you have an Offensive agreement with them?

The peace loving Meades only want peace, if the Sumerians and Hittites really want peace then I will grant it to them.

To my secret allies - my most profound gratitude and undying support for your causes. I shall sacrifice 1000 virgins in your honor.

AKULLA the Great and Most Pious, Slayer of Godia the Giant, Keeper of the Flame and Man about Town -- HAS SPOKEN.

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Just to get one thing straight, I did fire the first shot (arrow).

You can call it coincidence or what ever you want - but both the Sumerians and Hittites entered my territory on the same turn and where both within one space of one of my cities. The military actions that I brought were within the boarders of my territory, and I was well within my Imperial Rights to protect my citizens from any raiding parties. If, no aggression was their intent then they should not have entered my territory.

There are two old Meadian proverbs I would now like to relate.

Should you wake from a slumber, and a stranger is in your home. “Shoot first, ask questions later”.

An old Hellian once said a picture is worth a thousand words, so I have attached a scroll that was traced from the memory of captured enemy soldiers. (see attached)

My question is why did they enter my territory, if they mean non-aggression?

I have no quarrel with the Bab’s and only want peace. I would behead the eunuch that negotiated your Defensive Agreement with the Sumerians; it was obviously bad counsel for the Sumerians are on the Offensive. Do you have an Offensive agreement with them?

The peace loving Meades only want peace, if the Sumerians and Hittites really want peace then I will grant it to them.

To my secret allies - my most profound gratitude and undying support for your causes. I shall sacrifice 1000 virgins in your honor.

AKULLA the Great and Most Pious, Slayer of Godia the Giant, Keeper of the Flame and Man about Town -- HAS SPOKEN.

ps: turn sent.


That was great. The eunuch part was especially funny considering it's conmcb25.

I look forward to more trash-talk during this war. Enjoy yourselves.

P.S. I'll be able to play later tonight.

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I have no quarrel with the Bab’s and only want peace. I would behead the eunuch that negotiated your Defensive Agreement with the Sumerians; it was obviously bad counsel for the Sumerians are on the Offensive. Do you have an Offensive agreement with them?


No there was no offensive agreement but you did fire the first shot hence you are the aggressor.

The Hittites have been pretty pissy with me about my units in there territory. The issues have been resolved and there was no war.

I would hardly call one warrior and one Enkidu Warrior an act of aggression, but then thats me.

Talk first, then shot. Your ancient proverb may have just gotten you into an awful mess.

Are you offering me something for peace?

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sent, to all please stay out of my territory - my country men and I all want peace, but will not accept naked agression.


With regards to me starting it, I asked for them to leave and they did not. Perhaps, it would have been prudent for the French to ask Germany kindly leave France when the invaded and then perhaps not.

With regards to Peace I offer my hand in friendship to the Bab's.

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And to snoopy.

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akulla - I would buy your propaganda if you had killed my Enkidu Warrior. But you destroyed a city legitimately built outside your borders.

The warrior was passing through - and by himself could obviously do little harm. In fact - if I recall - I think he was caught by your cultural border expansion. I wioll have to revist the saves to confirm - but I was being fairly careful about keeping out of others territory.

So sorry - I don't buy your story - but it is a good one.

As to the Hittites entering on the same turn - well that is news to me - and not my issue.

On one thing we agree - I have always thought con was a eunuch as well.

It is that high-pitched whine of his, as in ... "You are lazy and suck" .. that had me wondering.

Save to snoopy.

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Beta has brought up a valid point concerning this latest "disagreement" (I don't want to call it a "war" since I for one believe that it can be stopped before it escalates any further).

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Beta has brought up a valid point concerning this latest "disagreement"


That con is a eunuch? Well okay if you agree to that too.

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On one thing we agree - I have always thought con was a eunuch as well.

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LOL

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I am up for Peace, Whit could you be our arbitrator?

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I am up for Peace, Whit could you be our arbitrator?


Yes, I can be an arbitrator for a cease-fire, if it is agreeable to all parties involved.

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I don't know. Once a nation gets psyched up for a war, it is hard to get the 'machinery' turned off.

The matter is currently under debate in the Sumerian Official Chambers, Kings Home Of Peace - Otherwise known as the SOCKHOP. The musicians are very busy.

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On one thing we agree - I have always thought con was a eunuch as well.


My neighbor is such a nit wit.

The ambassador I sent to you to negotiate the treaty was a eunuch and thats what YOU requested. Hint Hint

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OK Witt if beta is agreeable start brokering

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Who has the save???????

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so much good banter that we forget to actually play the save...

that is cool

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It looks like the save was passed to Snoopy from Beta yesterday. So I'm assuming that Snoopy is still in possession of it.

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SnoopDog, what gives?

Do I have a warrior in your territory again threatening your existance??????

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OK Witt if beta is agreeable start brokering


Well, Beta has not, as of yet, stated if he was interested in any cease-fire negotiations being started.


So, my Lord Beta, are you going to be sending a representative to the negotiatings or not? If you do, do you accept myself as an arbitrator to the event?

 
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