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Theben is offline Theben
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Jan 1970
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I think I'm ready to rejoin the ranks.

Ljube is offline Ljube
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May 2003
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1. Tuberski ( ACK!)
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Jun 2001
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  Old Post 26-08-2004 17:27
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Tuberski is offline Tuberski
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Feb 2002
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  Old Post 26-08-2004 21:41 Visit Tuberski's homepage!
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How is it possible that we still have three spots open?

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  Old Post 26-08-2004 22:10
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Originally posted by reismark

Hey, I've been below Emperor for, like, forever, so I could give less than a crap about my post count - can't anyone get involved anymore just because the game looks like FUN?


Oh it is fun as well, I wouldn't play otherwise. As Skanky says if it pushes you to emperor whilst being fun, well, it's a nice bonus.

You may as well at least reply to say you agree. Thus starts the slippery slope.

Kalius is offline Kalius
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Aug 2002
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  Old Post 27-08-2004 01:25
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I'll be a place filler. If I'm not banned.

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  Old Post 27-08-2004 01:35
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Why would you be banned?

SnowFire is offline SnowFire
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Oh, by the way, I ran the code to see the probabilities on Mafia games. These are baseline stats, if the clues are totally unhelpful and the villagers vote functionally randomly (on the other hand, the Mafia also kills randomly, so he can't seek out their rival Mafia and aim for 'em).

code:
Chance #M #V 36.6% 2 24 38.0% 2 22 39.9% 2 20 41.8% 2 18 47.2% 3 21 45.5% 3 23


These were running, oh, 100,000 games or so each to get those percentages.

So, even if the GM is totally unhelpful, the Mafia still only wins 2/5 times, roughly. A double Mafia win should only happen around 1-2% of the time (I ran that too). This implies that clues should be evil and well-hidden to make things interesting.

By the way, the scale of the game doesn't seem to matter much; it sliiiightly increases the chances of the Mafia, but what matters most is the proportion. F'instance, 1 mafia / 11 villagers gives 36.7% chance of mafia victory (easily calculated by hand; this is an easy case); you see above that 2/22 gives 38.0%. Even 20/220 only gives 39.8% chance of mafia victory (that's gonna be a long game, I might add).

Ben Kenobi is offline Ben Kenobi
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Oct 2002
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  Old Post 27-08-2004 06:31
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Let the jolly jedi join!

Ben Kenobi is offline Ben Kenobi
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Oct 2002
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  Old Post 27-08-2004 06:32
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And let me be Pope!

Hercules is offline Hercules
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Sep 2002
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  Old Post 27-08-2004 07:15
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quote:
Originally posted by Kalius
I'll be a place filler. If I'm not banned.


Kalius: I think you are an unreliable player, with a history of late and missed postings in recent games, at crucial moments. If I was a GM I wouldn't allow you in the game.

Nothing personal. But I feel new players in games like this should be alerted about you and 'the not missed' NuclearMaster's, spoiling posting record.

OTOH maybe I have got you all wrong.

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Theben is offline Theben
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Dance Dance for the Revolution!
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Got spare money?

A good point, if not tactfully done. But I wouldn't ban him per se- maybe put him on a 'filler' list, so if the slots don't get filled up (not that that has ever been a problem with mafia before) he can join.

NM, OTOH, shouldn't be GM again, not for awhile, anyway. And no more than 1 game at a time.

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  Old Post 27-08-2004 09:26
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I would like to be in on this one (and a sign up thread that lasts longer then 24 hours...is this a good or a bad thing??)

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Oct 2001
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  Old Post 27-08-2004 13:03
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I like the clues, however evil they may be. They make the 'poly mafia game different from others. In the "original" game then it's just players stood in a room and there's little or no role-playing, and you wouldn't want to give out clues to your identity as the mafia so it's just a case of stabbing in the dark.

Ljube is offline Ljube
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May 2003
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  Old Post 27-08-2004 15:05
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Put an end to popups!

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The list is full. The game will start in a couple of hours.

Kalius is offline Kalius
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Aug 2002
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  Old Post 28-08-2004 01:54
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quote:
A good point, if not tactfully done. But I wouldn't ban him per se- maybe put him on a 'filler' list, so if the slots don't get filled up (not that that has ever been a problem with mafia before) he can join.


This is what I was alluding to.

Ljube is offline Ljube
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May 2003
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  Old Post 28-08-2004 03:16
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  Old Post 28-08-2004 05:48
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