30-08-2004 23:37									#31
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It's coming very close to 60 hours. Berz, we really just want to get this over with. Most of us have only one pick left. Please, just go with what the rules are and BAPAY!

	30-08-2004 23:46									#32
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Yeah, this is kind of strange. The entire draft, we've been working on 24 hours = BAPAY, now we change the rule for what? I don't really understand this.

Is it so Berzerker can see some more preseason games before he is required to make his last pick? That is what it seems like.

	31-08-2004 05:40									#33
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Devious me

Nah, we went off the 24 hour BAPAY very early on and haven't enforced any BAPAY that I know of on the weekends. Anyway, BAPAY for Duke and Jonny is up for 2 picks. After looking at Duke's picks he needs a WR --

17.01 Doug Gabriel WR (OAK)
17.02 Jay Foreman LB (HOU)
17.03 Erron Kinney TE (TEN)
17.04 John Kasay K (CAR)
17.05 Matt Stover K (BAL)
17.06 Dre Bly DB (DET)
17.07 Brandon Manumaleuna TE (StL)
17.08 Justin Gage WR (CHI??????)
17.09 Marcus Pollard TE (IND)
17.10 Brandon Lloyd WR (SF)
17.11 Quincy Morgan WR (CLE)
17.12

I'm sending Jonny a PM and he should be on tomorrow morning and we'll be back to Duke (I'll send him a PM too).

	31-08-2004 07:21									#34
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1 - Vlad - BC Stoner Bears
2 - Spaced Cowboy - DaBoyz2
3 - Stuie - City Hobgoblins
4 - Zopperoni - Paydirt Pierluigis
5 - Imran - Georgia Gaffers
6 - Supersneak - Portland Rage
7 - Kidicious - Fresno Freakers
8 - Sloth - Monza Sloths
9 - Emperor Fabulous - Boston Emperors
10 - Berzerker - Berzerks
11 - Duke o' York - The Priapic Love Wow
12 - Jonny - Divine Demons

1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.04 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.05 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.06 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.07 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
1.08 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.09 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.10 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.11 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)
1.12 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)

2.12 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.11 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.10 Rudi Johnson RB (Cinc)
2.09 Terrell Owens WR (PHI)
2.08 Marvin Harrison WR (IND)
2.07 Stephen Davis RB (CAR)
2.06 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF)
2.05 Fred Taylor RB (JAC)
2.04 Torry Holt WR (StL)
2.03 Travis Henry RB (Buf)
2.02 Donovan McNabb QB (Phi)
2.01 Michael Vick QB (ATL)

3.01 Tony Gonzalez TE (KC)
3.02 Todd Heap TE (Bal)
3.03 Chad Johnson WR (Cin)
3.04 Domanick Davis RB (HOU)
3.05 Hines Ward WR (PIT)
3.06 Anquoin Boldin, WR (ARI)
3.07 Marc Bulger, QB (StL)
3.08 Ray Lewis, LB (BAL)
3.09 Santana Moss, WR (NYJ)
3.10 Derrick Mason, WR (TENN)
3.11 Eric Moulds, WR (Buf)
3.12 Joe Horn, WR (NO)

4.12 Curtis Martin, RB (NYJ)
4.11 Alge Crumpler, TE (Atl)
4.10 Steve McNair, QB (TENN)
4.09 Trent Green QB (KC)
4.08 Tiki Barber, RB (NYG)
4.07 Isaac Bruuuuuuce, WR (StL)
4.06 Brian Westbrook, RB/KR (PHI)
4.05 Darrell Jackson, WR (SEA)
4.04 Steve Smith, WR (CAR)
4.03 Javon Walker, WR (GB)
4.02 Rod Smith, WR (Den)
4.01 Laveranues Coles WR (WASH)

5.01 Peerless Price WR (ATL)
5.02 Eddie George RB (Dal)
5.03 Mike Vanderjagt K (IND)
5.04 Tom Brady QB (NE)
5.05 Brett Favre, QB (GB)
5.06 Chris Chambers WR (MIA)
5.07 Jeff Wilkins K (StL)
5.08 Michael Bennet RB (MIN)
5.09 Kevin Jones RB (DET)
5.10 Charlie Garner, RB (TB)
5.11 Keenan McCardell, WR (TB)
5.12 Koren Robinson, WR (SEA)

6.12 Justin McCareins, WR (NYJ)
6.11 Moe Williams, RB (MINN)
6.10 Donte Hall, WR (KC)
6.09 Adam Vinatieri K (NE)
6.08 Andre Johnson WR (HOU)
6.07 Brian Urlacher MLB (CHI)
6.06 Chad Pennington QB (JETS)
6.05 Keyshawn Johnson, WR, (DAL)
6.04 Thomas Jones RB (CHI)
6.03 Correl Buckhalter, RB (PHI)
6.02 Jimmy Smith WR (Jac)
6.01 Rich Gannon QB (OAK)

7.01 Tyrone Wheatley RB (OAK)
7.02 Keith Bulluck LB (TEN)
7.03 Boo Williams TE (NO)
7.04 David Boston WR (MIA)
7.05 Ashley Lelie WR (DEN)
7.06 Aaron Brooks, QB (NO)
7.07 Amani Toomer, WR (NYG)
7.08 Byron Leftwich, QB (JAC)
7.09 Garrison Hearst, RB (DEN)
7.10 TJ Duckett, RB (ATL)
7.11 David Akers, K (PHI)
7.12 Jeremy Shockey, TE (NYG)

8.12 Jason Elam, K (DEN)
8.11 Dontarrious Thomas D (Minn)
8.10 Jerry Azumah DB CHI
8.09 Kellen Winslow TE (CLE)
8.08 Chris Brown RB (TEN)
8.07 Randy McMichael TE (MIA)
8.06 Reggie Wayne WR (IND)
8.05 Duce Staley, RB (PIT)
8.04 Jake Plummer QB (DEN)
8.03 Jeff Garcia QB (Cle)
8.02 Travis Minor RB (MIA)
8.01 Larry Fitzgerald WR (ARZ)

9.01 Jerry Porter WR (OAK)
9.02 Plaxico Burress WR (PIT)
9.03 Anthony Thomas RB (Chi)
9.04 Antonio Gates TE (SD)
9.05 Jake Delhomme QB (CAR)
9.06 Freddie Jones TE (ARI)
9.07 Jerry Rice WR (OAK)
9.08 Bubba Franks TE (GB)
9.09 Warren Sapp DT (OAK)
9.10 Donnie Edwards LB (SD)
9.11 Antoine Winfield DB (MINN)
9.12 Tyrone Calico WR (TEN)

10.12 Jamie Sharper LB (HOU)
10.11 Brian Russell DB (MINN)
10.10 Tedy Bruschi LB (NE)
10.09 David Thornton LB (IND)
10.08 Marty Booker WR (CHI)
10.07 Joey Harrington QB (DET)
10.06 Keith Brooking LB (ATL)
10.05 Charles Rogers WR (DET)
10.04 Takeo Spikes LB (BUF)
10.03 Warrick Dunn RB (Atl)
10.02 Ryan Longwell K (GB)
10.01 wILLIAM gREEN rb (cle)

11.01 Sebastion Janikowski K (OAK)
11.02 Zach Thomas LB (MIA)
11.03 Tai Streets WR (DET)
11.04 Rodney Harrison DB (NE)
11.05 Andra Davis LB (CLE)
11.06 Quentin Griffin RB (DEN)
11.07 Deshaun Foster RB (CAR)
11.08 Lavar Arrington LB (WAS)
11.09 Deion Branch WR (NE)
11.10 Dallas Clark TE (IND)
11.11 Onterrio Smith RB (Minn)
11.12 Adam Archuleta DB (StL)

12.12 Jason Taylor DL (MIA)
12.11 Derrion Scott DL (Minn)
12.10 Brad Johnson QB (TB)
12.09 David Carr QB (HOU)
12.08 Rex Grossman QB (CHI)
12.07 Greg Wesley DB (KC)
12.06 Donte Stallworth WR (NO)
12.05 Nick Barnett LB (GB)
12.04 Steven Jackson RB (StL)
12.03 Rod Gardner WR (Was)
12.02 Roy Williams Saf. (Dal)
12.01 Charles Woodson D (OAK)

13.01 Champ Bailey D (DEN)
13.02 Vinny Testaverde QB (DAL)
13.03 R. W. McQuarters D (CHI)
13.04 Julius Jones RB (DAL)
13.05 Jason Witten TE (DAL)
13.06 Ron Dayne RB (NYG)
13.07 Elli Manning QB (NYG)
13.08 Willis McGahee RB (BUF)
13.09 Shawn Barber LB (KC)
13.10 Mike Barrow LB (WAS)
13.11 Tommy Maddox QB (PIT)
13.12 Drew Bledsoe QB (BUF)

14.12 Antoine Smith RB (TEN)
14.11 Lee Suggs RB (Cle)
14.10 Tatum Bell, RB (DEN)
14.09 Chris Perry, RB (CIN)
14.08 Josh McCown QB (ARI)
14.07 Michael Strahan DE (NYG)
14.06 Kevin Johnson WR (BAL)
14.05 Darren Sharper DB (GB)
14.04 Marcus Robinson WR (MIN)
14.03 Phillip Buchanon DB (OAK)
14.02 Jerome Bettis RB (PIT)
14.01 Fred Russell RB (MIA)

15.01 Joey Galloway WR (TB)
15.02 Peter Warrick WR (CIN)
15.03 Deltha O'Neal DB (Cin)
15.04 Drew Bennett WR (TEN)
15.05 Lee Evans WR (BUF)
15.06 Jonathan Vilma LB (NYJ)
15.07 Emmitt Smith RB (ARI)
15.08 Julian Peterson LB (SF)
15.09 Reggie Willaims WR (JAX)
15.10 Andre Davis WR (CLE)
15.11 Mike Vrabel DL (NE)
15.12 L.J. Smith TE (PHI)

16.12 Julius Peppers DL (CAR)
16.11 Ituli Mili TE (SEA)
16.10 Dorsey Levens RB (PHI)
16.09 Simeon Rice DE (TB)
16.08 Carson Palmer QB (CIN)
16.07 Donald Driver WR (GB)
16.06 Daniel Graham TE (NE)
16.05 Ed Reed DB (BAL)
16.04 Akin Ayondele LB (JAX)
16.03 Kevin Faulk RB (NE)
16.02 Eddie Kennison WR (KC)
16.01 Freddie Mitchell WR (PHI)

17.01 Doug Gabriel WR (OAK)
17.02 Jay Foreman LB (HOU)
17.03 Erron Kinney TE (TEN)
17.04 John Kasay K (CAR)
17.05 Matt Stover K (BAL)
17.06 Dre Bly DB (DET)
17.07 Brandon Manumaleuna TE (StL)
17.08 Justin Gage WR (CHI)
17.09 Marcus Pollard TE (IND)
17.10 Brandon Lloyd WR (SF)
17.11 Quincy Morgan WR (CLE)
17.12 Josh Brown K (SEA)

18.12 Jim Kleinsasser TE (MIN)
18.11
18.10
18.09
18.08
18.07
18.06
18.05
18.04
18.03
18.02
18.01
[/draft]

Back to Duke for 1 more pick.

	31-08-2004 07:23									#35
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BAPAY!

	31-08-2004 13:49									#36
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Yeah, BAPAY me again. I said to somewhere, but last weekend was a bank holiday so I wasn't here yesterday I'm afraid.

	01-09-2004 03:43									#37
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Okay, Duke gets another WR but I can't give him the next in line given the bye situation, so he gets:

18.12 Jim Kleinsasser TE (MIN)
18.11 Terry Glenn WR (DALL)
18.10 Joe Nedney K (TEN)
18.09
18.08
18.07
18.06
18.05
18.04
18.03
18.02
18.01

Emp Fab is up

I'll update the players taken list higher up in the thread soon

	01-09-2004 03:46									#38
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I'm reconsidering my opinion if anyone cares. This is the last round. I don't think people care much if they get a BAPAY so just do it.

	01-09-2004 04:53									#39
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Is there a supplemental draft? Anderson goes down for the count!

	01-09-2004 06:28									#40
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Yeah, we'll have an injury etc round or two for people unhappy with what they have now. I think one of my guys is hurt bad.

Btw, the way they handle that at FFZ is the person with the earliest injury goes first and so on, but I'm thinking people who just want replace a player should have to wait for injury replacements before getting to pick.

	01-09-2004 07:38									#41
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18.12 Jim Kleinsasser TE (MIN)
18.11 Terry Glenn WR (DALL)
18.10 Joe Nedney K (TEN)
18.09 Mushin Muhammad WR (CAR)
18.08
18.07
18.06
18.05
18.04
18.03
18.02
18.01

Word

	01-09-2004 07:58									#42
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18.12 Jim Kleinsasser TE (MIN)
18.11 Terry Glenn WR (DALL)
18.10 Joe Nedney K (TEN)
18.09 Mushin Muhammad WR (CAR)
18.08 John Carney K (NO)
18.07
18.06
18.05
18.04
18.03
18.02
18.01

Kid is up

Last edited by Berzerker on 01-09-2004 at 13:17

	01-09-2004 08:02									#43
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Supersneak, if Kid hasn't picked before your arrival, you can BAPAY him. He doesn't seem to care at this point. I tend to agree but why not get who you want even if the pool has been depleted.

	01-09-2004 08:48									#44
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Very funny Berzerker.

18.12 Jim Kleinsasser TE (MIN)
18.11 Terry Glenn WR (DALL)
18.10 Joe Nedney K (TEN)
18.09 Mushin Muhammad WR (CAR)
18.08 David Terrell WR (CHI?)
18.07 Aneas Williams S (StL)
18.06
18.05
18.04
18.03
18.02
18.01


SuperSneak is up.

	01-09-2004 08:53									#45
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If Sloth pops in and doesn't like the player I found on his list, he can swap him for someone still available. That pick is from his weekend list and I'm not sure he wanted 2 WRs to finish the draft.

	01-09-2004 11:51									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker but I'm thinking people who just want replace a player should have to wait for injury replacements before getting to pick.

	01-09-2004 12:46									#47
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18.12 Jim Kleinsasser TE (MIN)
18.11 Terry Glenn WR (DALL)
18.10 Joe Nedney K (TEN)
18.09 Mushin Muhammad WR (CAR)
18.08 John Carney K (NO)
18.07 Aneas Williams S (StL)
18.06
18.05
18.04
18.03
18.02
18.01

I need a kicker..so I'll drop Terrel for Carney.

	01-09-2004 13:21									#48
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Zop, only seems fair to let people with injured players go first since those are much more "acts of God" than people who took healthy players and now want to drop them. We can have a vote on it of course, but why waste time on such a minor matter.

	01-09-2004 13:25									#49
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Supersneak is up, remember foks, SCowboy wants a def BAPAY.

	01-09-2004 14:13									#50
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Berz, I never believed the injury draft was meant to replace healthy players

But will the order of replacement be the order as drafted, like at FFZ?

	01-09-2004 21:49									#51
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Yeah, that's kinda wierd. The injury draft should be for injuries or suspensions only. If you want to replace healthy players wait your turn on the waiver wire.

	02-09-2004 02:47									#52
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18.12 Jim Kleinsasser TE (MIN)
18.11 Terry Glenn WR (DALL)
18.10 Joe Nedney K (TEN)
18.09 Mushin Muhammad WR (CAR)
18.08 David Terrell WR (CHI?)
18.07 Aneas Williams S (StL)
18.06 Jason Hanson K (DET)
18.05
18.04
18.03
18.02
18.01


Supplemental draft should be injury/suspension only, in descending order from 1st injured pick to last.

	02-09-2004 03:37									#53
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And mine, if we have one...remember, I picked someone because I was mistaken about a few rules...

	02-09-2004 03:44									#54
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That's so ueber-bullshit. You made a mistake about the rules: your ****-up, your responsibility.

You'll just have to wait until the league goes live and pick up free agents.

	02-09-2004 03:53									#55
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Yeah...I don't know what you are talking about.
If you mis-picked because you didn't understand about positions or something, that's kind of tough.

I'd like to hear the details before I weigh in completely, though.

	02-09-2004 05:14									#56
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18.12 Jim Kleinsasser TE (MIN)
18.11 Terry Glenn WR (DALL)
18.10 Joe Nedney K (TEN)
18.09 Mushin Muhammad WR (CAR)
18.08 David Terrell WR (CHI?)
18.07 Aneas Williams S (StL)
18.06 Jason Hanson K (DET)
18.05 Dat Nguyen LB (DAL)
18.04
18.03
18.02
18.01

quote: And mine, if we have one...remember, I picked someone because I was mistaken about a few rules...

Who? From what I see, you had a good draft!

	02-09-2004 09:00									#57
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Sapp I think

	02-09-2004 09:11									#58
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Looks like we have a few people who want only injuries and suspensions - "acts of God" - for a supplemental draft. I don't care enough either way but we can debate it while people finish their picks and let the majority or plurality decide it.

Having seen the wisdom of those on the other side - albeit the dark side - I'm fine either way. It would just give BAPAYs a chance to dump a guy they got stuck with because life intervened.

	02-09-2004 09:14									#59
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What was wrong with Sapp? Did he think that sacks counted more?

	02-09-2004 09:15									#60
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As for mis-picking, what's the big deal about replacing the guy? We should be grateful the guy wasted an early pick