28-11-1999 16:38									#31
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Dominic & Kull:

I just checked out the web page. I Really Like the new layout for each area! You've made a lot of progress .

On the new graphics... Sorry to be a tease. We just ran into some scheduling problems, so my best guess is Monday or Tuesday.

	30-11-1999 12:35									#32
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If you haven't seen the Clash Web Site recently, please take a gander. We've come a loooong way!

http://www.fortunecity.com/underworld/run/943/

	01-12-1999 06:04									#33
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Dominic and Kull:

Great Job Guys!

I checked out the alternative styles. I think style #3 is pretty good if you would lose the blinking stuff. I like having the logo up top! I personally don't like a black background, but it does show off the artwork much better. A gold metallic font, like Dominique had way back when, would look Really cool if we go with a black background. You might be able to grab that font from the old preview page if it's still up...

The flames on #2 turned me off (surprise!). I also personally prefer the "exploded" menu on the left, rather than just having the main areas shown. The cross-hair bullets looked good.

style #1 was a good no-frames version.

Overall, I think I prefer what you have as the main site now...

	01-12-1999 06:28									#34
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I tend to agree with Mark - I prefer the current style with the light blue background. I've also found that sites with light text on a dark background are difficult to print (the text tends to be hard to read or even illegible). I REALLY like the organization of the current site. It's really easy to navigate, and I don't feel like I'm "stuck" in any one portion of the site. I also like the music - is it original?

	01-12-1999 08:28									#35
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the light blue one is good for the no frames. You might as well just get rid of all the other ones, including the frames version. The dark one isn't very good. A black background with white text is great for a news site (like warcraft.org, they have a great layout) but this is more of a reference site.

	02-12-1999 10:37									#36
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Thanks for the comments about the web site! We do plan to maintain the current look, but Dom wants to experiment with a variety of styles, for two reasons:

1) To see what you like (and don't!)
2) To prepare for the day when the Clash Web Site transitions from a "workgroup" to a "marketing" focus (ie. when the game is ready to ship!) When that happens, a completely new look is almost going to be mandatory! It may seem like a long way off, but I commend him for the foresight.

Re the music: We didn't create it ourselves, but it's also not associated with any other game.
[This message has been edited by Kull (edited December 02, 1999).]

	02-12-1999 10:43									#37
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New "Theme" graphics have been loaded for almost every page on the web site! Feedback is important, so please let us know (on this thread) which ones you really like...and which you don't (as unlikely as that may be!)

	03-12-1999 05:39									#38
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i strongly suggest to go with this one
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Underworld/3443/

but with the blinking >

	03-12-1999 16:52									#39
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Hi Kull, the new look is better.

The link to Map Graphics page seems to be broken.

	04-12-1999 01:47									#40
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johnmcd: Could you try that page again? I've tested it from two different locations, and it loads just fine.

	04-12-1999 17:29									#41
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I can't exactly grasp the symbolism under the Multiplayer model theme picture. Could somebody explain it to me?

	04-12-1999 17:40									#42
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axi:

Yeah, I said the same thing, but...
The "symbolism" is that we are all free to suggest better pictures so long as they aren't copyrighted. Dominic and Kull Know some of the pictures aren't ideal If you can manage to find alternate pictures, it would no doubt help out alot!

BTW thanks to your quick suggestion on recovering the Graphics thread document from caches. We were able to save the whole graphics thread from oblivion...

	08-12-1999 10:09									#43
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Well I tried it again Kull and its working fine now, it must have just been one of those things. Sorry.

	09-12-1999 10:56									#44
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Regarding the no-frames page...

The links in the navigation table down the left side of the screen don't work. If you are aware of this and just haven't gotten around to linking them, carry on. If not, I thought you should know.

	09-12-1999 10:58									#45
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shimmin: The "no-frames" page is still very much in beta. Dominic and I have been totally focused on completing the development of the frames version and migrating it over to Apolyton. With that mission complete, Dom will now be able to focus on coming up with a fully functional non-frames version.

Team: As you all may have noticed, Dom is experimenting with several different versions of the Clash web site. What do you think about having a completely different look and style for the non-frames page?

	11-12-1999 01:50									#46
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On the topic of the noframes version of the web site I personally think that both the versions of the web site should be the same so that people get the same sort of impression about the website wether they have frames or not.

	18-12-1999 09:38									#47
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Is something wrong with the links to the website? I haven't been able to get to it for the past few days...the frames and nonframes version.

	18-12-1999 16:31									#48
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Its still up, they just changed the url for the main page. If you start back at clash.apolyton.net and then click on frames you will get the new address (http://clash.apolyton.net/frame/)

	02-01-2000 20:06									#49
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Now what has happened to the links?

Was there another change of the URLs?

All the links of the site, apart of those on the sidebar and those leading to the Apolyton threads seem to be broken.

	02-01-2000 20:20									#50
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Start again from scratch at clash.apolyton.net and it will work fine.
Because of a reorganization necessitated by changing the ad style, the old frame page doesn't lead anywhere anymore. You will need to bookmark the new frame page to replace the old one.

	02-01-2000 20:29									#51
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No Mark, it's not that. Just go in the gov model page and try to retrieve any of the 4 model links and you will see what I mean. This time I went in through the Apolyton homepage, and it's the same either way.

	02-01-2000 20:40									#52
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Sorry axi, I misunderstood your problem.

The links to the gov pages 1-4 didn't get updated. Dominic did a Great Job on a fast update, but it was a Lot of work and some just got missed. Until its fixed you can get it it by going to http://clash.apolyton.net/models/Mo...ernment-1.shtml . The internal links once you're there (for the rest of the gov pages) seem to work ok.

All:

If you find a dead link most likely you can get it by just changing the *.html to *.shtml

If you find any more please report them here.

Thanks,

Mark