18-09-2004 09:22									#31
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• alexman - this one was a no-brainer and I'm looking forward to my first PBEM with the guru
  
• Dominae - a great contributor and sparked my passion for AU
  
• Mr. P.T.Scot (aka Paddy the Scot) - re-ignited my interest in Civ3 with his enthusiasm and good sportsmanship....not to mention being a pretty good old chap whom I can now genuinely call a friend

And thanks to Paddy and Bongo for my first ever votes in the HoF!!!

Last edited by Aqualung71 on 18-09-2004 at 12:35

	19-09-2004 08:58									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph I am dead serious with nominating Coracle. He was sincere with his criticism about the game, and very passionate. A bit repetitive maybe, but always constructive.

Coracle faded just after I joined, but I don't remember his comments being very constructive. A tic-box kludge to turn off flipping is not a solution that improves gameplay, IMO. I'd like to think that given less pressure and more open discussion on the topic, Firaxis would have come up with a better solution. It's entirely possible they would have done nothing or the same thing at a later stage, but I've noticed they've since done the most and best work on the game when there has been a mood of positive support here and they've make bad decisions and ignored the game on the heels of negative postings. Could be that fan mood is just a reflection of what has been produced, but I don't see much good that resulted from Coracle's contributions...

Votes:
Alexman
Dominae

They have been clear standouts in the few forums I frequent...

	19-09-2004 10:10									#33
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grog want alexman...
Grog Want Alexman...
GROG WANT ALEXMAN!



[Credits to Arrian]

* Theseus the Unrelenting

	20-09-2004 23:20									#34
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thank you all for the votes
Rommel- you can still vote for one additional personage.

new listing (after the votes were re-tallied: see the OT thread for more details or if you have complaints, I'll explain here)

-
1. El Awrence- [35] (36) 45---116
2. Spiffor- [34] (39) 43---116
3. Solo- [29] (42) 41---113

Kramsib- [37] (30) 32—100

Samson- [34] (26) 37---98

alexman [16] (40) 51--97

DarkCloud- [26] (30) 37—93

Immortal Wombat- [37] (21) 20--78
Master Zen- [26] (20) 32—78

Berzerker- [7] (23) 43--72

Googlie- [23] (27) 21---71

WesW- [16] (30) 24--70
Theseus- [12] (25) 33—70
Fez/Giancarlo- [12] (29) 18-- 70

Jasev- [31] (16) 16--63

Yaroslav- [27] (18) 11--58

Ted Striker- (19) 38--56

Harlan- [27] (19) 8--- 54

Skanky Burns-[15] (17) 20--53

Dr Strangelove- [18] (14) 20---52

Paddy the Scot- (25) 25---50

OzzyKP- [9] (19) 18---46
Dominae- [4] (19) 23—46

La Fayette- [4] (13) 28--45
Jamski- [9] (16) 20---45
Mr. Ogre- [36] (6) 3---45

loinburger- [4] (18) 22---44

Urban Ranger- [29] (6) 6---41
Togas- [16] (20) 5---41

Dr Spike- [13] (7) 20--40
Sagacious Dolphin/Big Crunch/Dauphin- [19] (11) 9--40

	21-09-2004 00:41									#35
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alexman
Dominae
Togas

	21-09-2004 01:57									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus grog want alexman... Grog Want Alexman... GROG WANT ALEXMAN! [Credits to Arrian] * Theseus the Unrelenting

Grog does rather like Alexman. But he's kinda like my old golden retreiver (RIP, Nigel) in that way: he tends to like everyone.

-Arrian

	21-09-2004 10:36									#37
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud Rommel- you can still vote for one additional personage.

And now for a man who needs no induction...
Paddy the Scot

[Honorable mention to Theseus]

If I had been registered in '99 under a different account, would my votes count more?

	21-09-2004 11:28									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Rommel2D Coracle faded just after I joined, but I don't remember his comments being very constructive. A tic-box kludge to turn off flipping is not a solution that improves gameplay, IMO. I'd like to think that given less pressure and more open discussion on the topic, Firaxis would have come up with a better solution. It's entirely possible they would have done nothing or the same thing at a later stage, but I've noticed they've since done the most and best work on the game when there has been a mood of positive support here and they've make bad decisions and ignored the game on the heels of negative postings. Could be that fan mood is just a reflection of what has been produced, but I don't see much good that resulted from Coracle's contributions...

I find it mildly amusing, how many people complain about my votes. Do you see me criticize yours? Care about your own business and let me vote for whomever I want, pretty please.

	21-09-2004 11:32									#39
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I guess I did make it about the vote, but I really just thought it was an interesting topic...

	21-09-2004 12:47									#40
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It should have its own thread then. Discussions and comments about votes only make DarkClouds work harder to filter the information (votes) out of the spam (complaints). I am partly responsible myself, I just should have ignored it and not responded to the comments. This post is spam too. It will be my last on this matter.

	23-09-2004 07:46									#41
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Hexagonian
Alexman
Sn00py

	24-09-2004 00:46									#42
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quote: If I had been registered in '99 under a different account, would my votes count more?

Rommell2D- yes, indeed they would.

Voting's going to close soon, all involved should be warned so please get your friends to the polls RAPIDLY!

	26-09-2004 21:56									#43
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My votes are:

Alexman
Theseus
Arrian

	06-10-2004 00:20									#44
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1) Final Standings (The Previous Votes’ add-ins are in brackets) a
These are all the people who made the last List, but were not elected.
(136 posters going into the election)

(205 Posters receiving votes

1. Solo- [29] (42) 45---117
2. El Awrence- [35] (36) 45---116
3. Spiffor- [34] (39) 43---116

alexman [16] (40) 59--105

Samson- [34] (26) 41---102

Kramsib- [37] (30) 32—100

DarkCloud- [26] (30) 37—93

Googlie- [23] (27) 35---85

Immortal Wombat- [37] (21) 23—81

Master Zen- [26] (20) 32—78

Berzerker- [7] (23) 43--72
Theseus- [12] (25) 35—72

WesW- [16] (30) 24--70
Fez/Giancarlo- [12] (29) 18-- 70

Jasev- [31] (16) 16--63

Yaroslav- [27] (18) 13--60

Harlan- [27] (19) 13--- 59

Ted Striker- (19) 38--56
Skanky Burns-[15] (17) 23--56

Dr Strangelove- [18] (14) 20---52
Paddy the Scot- (25) 27---52

Dominae- [4] (19) 25—48

La Fayette- [4] (13) 30--47

OzzyKP- [9] (19) 18---46

Jamski- [9] (16) 20---45
Mr. Ogre- [36] (6) 3---45

loinburger- [4] (18) 22---44

Togas- [16] (20) 7---43

Urban Ranger- [29] (6) 6---41

Dr Spike- [13] (7) 20--40
Sagacious Dolphin/Big Crunch/Dauphin- [19] (11) 9--40

MLeonard- -----[14] (10) 15---39

Alinestra Covelia [14] (10) 14---38

Malevolent Light- [8] (14) 15—37
Kassiopeia- [10] (10) 17---37

MrWhereItsAt- [14] (16) 4---34

korn469- ---- [11] (16) 6—33
Shi Huangdi- [10] (13) 10---33
Zeus_of_Olimpos- [4] (25) 4---33

Hexagonian- [5] (6) 20---31

Pekka- [3] (10) 16---29

Azazel (Dalgetti)- [6] (12) 10--28
st_swithin- [25] (3)---28
MrFun- [7] (11) 10---28
Molly Bloom- [12] (2) 14---28

Beta- [14] (3) 10--27
Tiamat- (14) 13---27
Ogie Oglethorpe- [6] (7) 15---27

deity- [10] (8) 7--25

The Slayer- (24)
Catt- [8] (15)—24
Arrian [4] (12) 8---24

vmxa1---[3] (12) 8—23
Techumseh- [11] (4) 8---23
Wittlich- [6] (14) 3---23
Sn00py- [10] (6) 7---23

ChrisiusMaximus- [3] (10) 9---22
Pyaray- [19] (3)---22
Chilean President---[4] (16) 2--22

Solver- (13) 8---21
Sprayber – [13] (4) 4---21
UberKrux- [7] (14)-- 21

cavebear- [10] (8) 2—20
Oerdin- [9] (3) 8--20

Comrade Tassadar- [4] (10) 5---19
Frustrated Poet- [5] (8) 6—19

GePap- [6] (2) 10---18
GhengisFarb- [13] (5)—18
Agathon---[3] (4) 11--18

Jon Miller- [8] (7) 2---17
Snowflake/HongHu- [1] (3) 13---17

CivNation (AKA DefensorFidei)- [8] (4) 4---16

Lefty Scaevola- (11) 4---15
SlowThinker-(9) 6---15
vondrack- [3] (10) 2--15
Sava- [3] (12)--15

MariOne- [5] (9)--14

SKILORD- [3] (8) 2---13
PLATO- [3] (7) 3—13

Drake Tungsten- 12
Rommel2D- 12
Post Count Zero- [4] (4) 4---12
MarkusF- [4] (4) 4---12

David Floyd- [4] (7)---11
Sikander- (11)
Dissident- 11
Kaak- [6] (1) 4---11

Venom- [3] (7)—10
Lincoln- [4] (4) 2—10
Ned- 10
Quinns----[6] (4)—10
Drogue- [4] (2) 4---10
Arnelos- [2] (8)---10

vovan- (7) 2---9
Fried-Psitalon- [4] (3) 2---9
Frankychan- [6] (3)---9
Zopperoni---[7] (2)---9

Tau Ceti- (8)
finbar- [3] (2) 3—8
Boann- (4) 4---8
Mercator- 8
Kody- [1] (3) 4—8
fairline- 8

E_T- (7)
Ljube-Ljcvetko- 7
Archaic- [3] (4)---7
Theben- 7
Aqualung71- 7

alva- (4) 2---6
Exile- 6
Coracle-(3) 3---6
devilmunchkin- [3] (3)---6
Frozzy- [2] (4)---6
100. Crimson Sunrise- [3] (3) ---6
Bongo- (3) 3--6
civman2000- [3] (3)---6

ducki- (5)
Jaguar- (2) 3---5
mindseye- (2) 3---5
Keygen- (2) 3---5
joncha- (2) 3—5
Aeson- [2] (3)—5
Hydro- 5

Lorizael- (4)
Mr Baggins- (4)
Rasputin- (4)
monolith94- (4)
BaronO- (4)
Smash- (4)
Blake- 4
Dale- [2] (2)---4
Eli- 4
Red Trotskyite- 4
TheBirdMan- [2] (2)---4
Guynemer- 4
nbarclay- 4
curtsibling- 4
Niessuh- (2) 2—4
academia- 4
tnapoleon- 4
GeoModder- 4
Darsnan- 4
WRW- [1] (3)--4

hemical Ollie- (3)
raingoon- (3)
Lonestar- (3)
jimmytrick- (3)
CharlesBHoff- (3)
Gramphos- (3)
Verto- 3
Winston- 3
Serb- 3
Whaleboy- 3
Martin Gόhmann- 3
Wigalf- 3
Makeo- 3
Natalinasmpf- 3
Gerar Dean- (2) 1---3
Smiley- 3
Adaigo- 3
Ari Rahikkala- 3

Sir Ralph-(2)
Elephant- (2)
Rhothaerill- (2)
Darius- (2)
CerberusIV-(2)
136. Flubber- (2)
Bloody Monk- 2
Kurious- 2
Harry Tuttle- 2
Rasbelin- 2
fanes7-2
DeepO- 2
Lawrence of Arabia- 2
Ben Kenobi- 2
Heresson- 2
jshelr- 2
El Mencey- 2
Buster- 2
happysunshine- 2


2) Who voted for Whom

-Jrabbit voted for: Bloody Monk (2), Berzerker (2), Solo (2)
aaglo voted for: Skanky Burns (3), Immortal Wombat (3), Kassiopeia (3)
academia voted for: El Awrence (3), Jasev (3), Master Zen (3)
Adagio voted for: HongHu (3), Ljube-Ljcvetko (3), Skanky Burns (3)
Agathon voted for: Spiffor (2), Molly Bloom (2), Ted Striker (2)
alexman voted for: Dominae (4), Rommel2D (4), Theseus (4)
Alinestra Covelia voted for: Googlie (3), Hydro (3), Harlan (3)
Alva voted for: Dauphin (3), Dissident (3), Frustrated Poet (3)
amidala voted for: Master Zen (2), Kramsib (2), El Awrence (2)
Andemagne voted for: DarkCloud (4), Pekka (4), Kassiopeia (4)
Arnelos voted for: alexman (2), dominae (2), togas (2)
Arrian voted for: alexman (3), Theseus (3), Dominae (3)
Asher voted for: Ted Striker (4), Loinburger (4), Spiffor (4)
Azazel voted for: Spiffor (3), Pekka (3), Giancarlo (3)
Ben Kenobi voted for: Solo (2), cavebear (2), Shi Huangdi (2)
Berzerker voted for: Ted Striker (4), Agathon (4), Ogie Oglethorpe (4)
Beta voted for: alexman (2), Paddy the Scot (2), vondrack (2)
Bloody Monk voted for: Solo (3), Samson (3), La Fayette (3)
bongo voted for: Paddy the Scot (4), Rommel2d (4), Aqualung71 (4)
Boshko voted for: Berzerker (4), loinburger (4), Shi Huangdi (4)
Brtndr4u voted for: Mleonard (3), Giancarlo (3), Tiamat (3)
Carloquillo voted for: Kramsib (2), Chilean President (2), Jasev (2)
Changmai Beagle voted for: Hexagonian (4), alexman (4), Sn00py (4)
chegitz guevara voted for: Giancarlo (3), Ned (3), Wigalf (3)
Chilean President voted for: El Awrence (3), Master Zen (3), Kramsib (3)
Chrisius Maximus voted for: Paddy the Scot (2), SKILORD (2), Vovan (2)
civman2000 voted for: DarkCloud (3), Togas (3), MasterZen (3)
Cold Wizard voted for: OzzyKP (3), Malevolent Light (3), Berzerker (3)
conmcb25 voted for: Beta (2), Togas (2), MrWhereItsAt (2)
curtsibling voted for: Exile (3), fairline (2), Harry Tuttle (2)
Cyrion voted for: Yaroslav (2), curtsibling (2), fairline (2)
DarkCloud voted for: Urban Ranger (3), El Awrence (3), Googlie (3)
Darsnan voted for: Googlie (3), Ogie Oglethorpe (3), Oerdin (3)
Dauphin voted for: Dissident (4), Ted Striker (4), Drake Tungsten (4)
David Floyd voted for: Berzerker (4), Tiamat (4), Lefty Scaevola (4)
DaveV voted for: LaFayette (4), Solo (4), Samson (4)
DAVOUT voted for: Spiffor (2), Molly Bloom (2), GePap (2)
debeest voted for: samson (3), solo (3), La Fayette (3)
Dissident voted for: Berzerker (3), Tiamat (3), Ted Striker (3)
Dominae voted for: alexman (2), Theseus (2), vmxa1 (2)
Drogue voted for: Spiffor (2), Rasbelin (2), Jamski (2)
DrSpike voted for: Jamski (3), Skanky Burns (3), Dauphin (3)
Dr Strangelove voted for: Azazel (4), Eli (4), Guynemer (4)
duke o’york voted for: Spiffor (3), Berzerker (3), El Awrence (3)
*El Awrence voted for: Jasev (4), Kramsib (4), Master Zen (4)
el mencey voted for: El Awrence (2), Kramsib (2), Master Zen (2)
Elephant voted for: Samson (2), Solo (2), Mercator (2)
FlameFlash voted for: Googlie (3), Adaigo (3), Keygen (3)
FrustratedPoet voted for: Skanky Burns (2), Dr Spike (2), alva (2)
g5harrison voted for: Academia (1), Gerar Dean (1), Kramsib (1)
GePap voted for: DarkCloud (3), Spiffor (3), Loinburger (3)
Gerar Dean voted for: El Awrence (2), Kramsib (2), MasterZen (2)
Gigante Verde voted for: El Awrence (1), Master Zen (1), Kramsib (1)
Grigor voted for: Solo (3), Samson (3), La Fayette (3)
Harry Tuttle voted for: Curt Sibling (2), Fariline (2), Yaroslav (2)
hexagonian voted for: WesW (4), Immortal Wombat (4), Solver (4)
Hercules voted for: Googlie (2), Snowflake (2), Darsnan (2)
Heresson voted for: joncha (3), Winston (3), Azazel (3)
Hydey voted for: Deity (3), finbar (3), makeo (3)
Illuminatus voted for: Googlie (2), Darsnan (2), Hydro (2)
Immortal Wombat voted for: WesW (3), Hexagonian (3), MrOgre (3)
Imran Siddiqui voted for: Spiffor (4), Ted Striker (4), MrFun (4)
ixnay voted for: DarkCloud (4), loinburger (4), Fez (4)
Jaguar voted for: Spiffor (3), Theseus (3), Ted Striker (3)
Jamski voted for: Skanky Burns (2), DrSpike (2), HongHu (2)
Japher voted for: Oerdin (2), DarkCloud (2), MrFun (2)
jasev voted for: El Awrence (3), Kramsib (3), Academia (3)
Jay Bee voted for: El Awrence (4), Jasev (4), Yaroslav (4)
J Byetheway voted for: WesW (3), Immortal Wombat (3), Hexagonian (3)
JCG voted for: Master Zen (2), Kramsib (2), El Awrence (2)
jm_ruiz voted for: El Awrence (2), Niessuh (2), Kramsib (2)
joncha voted for: Spiffor (2), Fez (2), Herresson (2)
JohnT voted for: Immortal Wombat(4), Agathon (4), Ogie Oglethorpe (4)
Jon Miller voted for: Zeus_of_Olimpos (4), Civnation (4), Post Count Zero (4)
Jonny voted for: Smiley (3), DrSpike (3), Skanky Burns (3)
Justinianum voted for: Mercator (2), Fairline (2), Yaroslav (2)
Kassiopeia voted for: Googlie (3), Alinestra Covelia (3), Immortal Wombat (3)
Kelzad voted for: Kramsib (2), El Mencey (2), El Awrence (2)
Konquest02 voted for: Theseus (2), Arrian (2)
Kramsib voted for: El Awrence (3), Jasev (3), Yaroslav (3)
Krill voted for: alexman (2), jshelr (2), DeepO (2)
Kuciwalker voted for: Jaguar (3), Comrade Tassadar (3), Verto (3)
La Fayette voted for: Solo (3), Samson (3), SlowThinker (3)
*Lazarus and the Gimp voted for: Chrisius Maximus (4), Alinestra Covelia (4), Molly Bloom (4)
lightblue voted for: Ted Striker (3), Loinburger (3), Pekka (3)
Ljube-ljcvetko voted for: Skanky Burns (2), Jamski (2), DrSpike (2)
Locutus voted for: WesW (4), Immortal Wombat (4), Harlan (4)
Lonestar voted for: Serb (3), Spiffor (3), Oerdin (3)
Mad Bomber voted for: alexman (2), Theseus (2), Arrian (2)
Main_Brain voted for: Jamski (2), Comrade Tassadar (2), vmxa1 (2)
MaleveolentLight voted for: Kaak (4), MarkusF (4), berserker (4)
Maquiladora voted for: WesW (3), Hexagonian (3), Martin Guhmann (3)
Makahlua voted for: Alexman (2), Dominae (2), Paddy the Scot (2)
Maniac voted for: Googlie (4), DarkCloud (4), GeoModder (4)
Manya voted for: El Awrence (2), Master Zen (2), Kramsib (2)
Martin Gόhmann voted for: WesW (3), Immortal Wombat (3), Hexagonian (3)
McMeadows voted for: Alexman (4), Paddy the Scot (4), Rommel2D (4)
Mead voted for: Googlie (2), Buster (2), Kody (2)
Mercator voted for: tecumseh (4), Exile (4), Alinestra Covelia (4)
Method voted for: Kassiopeia (3), Immortal Wombat (3), Alinestra Covelia (3)
Micha voted for: Googlie (2), Kody (2), Snowflake (2)
mindseye voted for: Dr Strangelove (4), Molly Bloom (4), GePap (4)
Ming voted for: Berzerker (4), OzzyKP (4), Malevolent Light (4)
molly bloom voted for: Agathon (3), Whaleboy (3), Mindseye (3)
Monk voted for: Harlan Thompson (4)
monolith94 voted for: tnapoleon (4), Red Trotskyite (4), Mleonard (4)
Mr. Nice Guy voted for: Lincoln (2), Jon Miller (2), Ben Kenobi (2)
MrWhereItsAt voted for: alexman (3), Dominae (3), Paddy the Scot (3)
Ned voted for: Ogie Oglethorpe (4), Drake Tungsten (4), Blake (4)
Niessuh voted for: Master Zen (2), Kramsib (2), El Awrence (2)
Nikolai voted for: DarkCloud (3), DrSpike (3), korn469 (3)
oedo voted for: solo (3), spiffor (3), Ted Striker (3)
Ogie Oglethorpe voted for: Ned (4), Drake Tungsten (4), Berzerker (4)
Old n Slow voted for: La Fayette (2), Solo (2), samson (2)
OzzyKP voted for: Berzerker (4), MalevolentLight (4), Deity (4)
Paddy the Scot voted for: Chrisius Maximus (3), Bongo (3), Aqualung (3)
pchang voted for: Strangelove (4), Theben (4), Ted Striker (4)
Peaster voted for: Harlan (2), Samson (2), Solo (2)
PLATO voted for: Spiffor (2), nbarclay (2), vmxa1 (2)
Provost Harrison voted for: Big Crunch (3), Spiffor (3), Jamski (3)
rah voted for: Berzerker (4), Malevolent Light (4), OzzyKP (4)
Rasbelin votred for: Kassiopeia (4), Solver (4), Drogue (4)
Rhothaerill voted for: Beta (2), alexman (2), Theseus (2)
Richelieu voted for: Theben (3)
rjmatsleepers voted for: Solo (2), Samson (2), La Fayette (2)
Rommel2D voted for: Alexman (2), Dominae (2), Paddy the Scot (2)
Scouse Gits voted for: Solo (4), Samson (4), LaFayette (4)
Shogun Gunner voted for: Wittlich (3), Paddy the Scot (3), Beta (3)
Sirotnikov voted for: Sn00py (3), korn469 (3), Pekka (3)
Sir Ralph voted for: alexman (3), Theseus (3), Coracle (3)
Skanky Burns voted for: DrSpike (3), Jamski (3), FrustratedPoet (3)
SlowwHand voted for: Boann (4), Berzerker (4), Sprayber (4)
Snowflake voted for: Jamski (2), Skanky Burns (2), DrSpike (2)
solo voted for: Samson (3), LaFayette (3), SlowThinker (3)
Solomwi voted for: alexman (2), Theseus (2), Dominae (2)
Solver voted for: DarkCloud (4), WesW (4), Hexagonian (4)
Spaced Cowboy voted for: Skanky Burns (3), Jamski (3), DrSpike (3)
Sparrowhawk voted for: solo (4), Samson (4), La Fayette (4)
Spiffor voted for: Plato (3)l, Doc Strangelove (3), Azazel (3)
Stefu voted for: Ted Striker (4), loinburger (4), DarkCloud (4)
Straybow voted for: solo (4), Samson (4), googlie (4)
St Leo voted for: Tecumseh (4), Mercator (4), GePap (4)
Stuie voted for: alexman (3), Berzerker (3), Pekka (3)
Switch voted for: alexman (2), Theseus (2), vmxa1 (2)
Tall Stranger voted for: Alexman (2), Theseus (2), Dominae (2)
Ted Striker voted for: Dr. Strangelove (4), Berzerker (4), Dissident (4)
Theben voted for: HongHu (4), Jamski (4), Ljube-Ljcvetko (4)
The Emperor Fabulous voted for: Spiffor (4), Mleonard (4), MrFun (4)
Theseus voted for alexman (2), HappySunShine (2), fanes7 (2)
The Slayer voted for: Master Zen (2), Kramsib (2), El Awrence (2)
Trip voted for: DarkCloud (2), alexman (2), nbarclay (2)
unscratchedfoot voted for: Paddy the Scot (2), ChrisiusMaximus (2), Kurious (2)
Unspeakable Horror voted for: El Awrence (4), Master Zen (4), Dark Cloud (4)
Velociryx voted for: Googlie (4), Theseus (4), Arrian (4)
VJ voted for: Kassiopeia (3), Ari Rahikkala (3), Dr Strangelove (3)
Vlad Antlerkov voted for: Shi Huangdi (4), Theseus (4), Mleonard (4)
vmxa1 voted for: Urban Ranger (3), Dominae (3), alexman (3)
vondrack voted for: Fried-Psitalon (2), MrWhereItsAt (2), Dominae (2)
Wernazuma voted for: Natalinasmpf (3), Ned (3), Giancarlo (3)
Whaleboy voted for: Molly Bloom (2), Dr Strangelove (2), Lawrence of Arabia (2)
Wittlich voted for: Tiamat (3), Beta (3), Paddy the Scot (3)
Zenon voted for: Samson (2), Solo (2), La Fayette (2)

*Registered 1999

	06-10-2004 00:22									#45
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The New Inductees

EL AWRENCE
Formerly known as Hodad, this Spanish Section Apolytoner was quite active in all of the Civ II sections and contributior to the Diplomacy games forum. He also frequented the OT in 2000 and provided fun in debates and other activities therein. He was also one of the founding members of the Spanish Civilization Forum. In recent years he has been most active in that section.

SPIFFOR
Civ3 player and all round nice OT Regular. Also French. and you know how hard it is to find a respectable Frenchman...

SOLO
Solo has long been active in CivII strategy forum and is the author of the Early Landing Strategy Guide. In addition to that, he discovered 16 turn city cycles governing automatic changes in city commodity supply and demand lists, and discovered numerous techniques to manipulate city commodity supply and demand, along with other strategic contributions to the Civ II community.

	06-10-2004 00:23									#46
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thanks to all who voted!

	06-10-2004 03:18									#47
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GGGGRRRR!!!!!!



alexman *almost* made it... if only it weren't for those CivII dinosaurs and the OT scum!!

	06-10-2004 03:35									#48
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Easy Theseus. He'll make it next time.

	06-10-2004 10:06									#49
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Sorry alexman, I searched for my old SMAC login, but couldn't find it. Anyone know if they periodically purge unused accounts around here?

	06-10-2004 12:03									#50
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud thanks to all who voted!

Honest question. Why aren't my votes recorded?

	06-10-2004 12:22									#51
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Aqualung's as well.

	06-10-2004 13:04									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Rhothaerill Easy Theseus. He'll make it next time.

Only if he moves his activity into the Off Topic forum and abandons all his useful work in favor of spam and sheer idiocy. Which I wouldn't appreciate.

	06-10-2004 15:27									#53
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Aqualung's as well.

Yes, well if my votes have not been counted, I officially protest!!! (particularly since I voted for alexman!)

	06-10-2004 21:16									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph Only if he moves his activity into the Off Topic forum and abandons all his useful work in favor of spam and sheer idiocy. Which I wouldn't appreciate.

How true.

alexman has been one of the driving forces in making this game better through the AU mod etc.

No more off-topic inductees!

	06-10-2004 21:44									#55
	Tired of ads?

Ming and others in the Civ2 section organized their voting to nominate "one of their own". Perhaps next year, the Civ3 crew should do the same thing.

	06-10-2004 21:56									#56
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sorry about that, I added your votes notyoueither and Aqualung. I don't know how I missed that.

here's the revised list:

1. Solo- [29] (42) 45---117
2. El Awrence- [35] (36) 45---116
3. Spiffor- [34] (39) 43---116

alexman [16] (40) 64--110

Samson- [34] (26) 41---102

Kramsib- [37] (30) 32—100

DarkCloud- [26] (30) 37—93

Googlie- [23] (27) 35---85

Immortal Wombat- [37] (21) 23—81

Master Zen- [26] (20) 32—78

Berzerker- [7] (23) 43--72
Theseus- [12] (25) 35—72

WesW- [16] (30) 24--70
Fez/Giancarlo- [12] (29) 18-- 70

Jasev- [31] (16) 16--63

Yaroslav- [27] (18) 13--60

Harlan- [27] (19) 13--- 59

Ted Striker- (19) 38--56
Skanky Burns-[15] (17) 23—56

Paddy the Scot- (25) 29---54

Dr Strangelove- [18] (14) 20---52
Dominae- [4] (19) 27—52

La Fayette- [4] (13) 30--47

OzzyKP- [9] (19) 18---46

Jamski- [9] (16) 20---45
Mr. Ogre- [36] (6) 3---45

loinburger- [4] (18) 22---44

Togas- [16] (20) 7---43

Urban Ranger- [29] (6) 6---41

Dr Spike- [13] (7) 20--40
Sagacious Dolphin/Big Crunch/Dauphin- [19] (11) 9--40

MLeonard- -----[14] (10) 15---39

Alinestra Covelia [14] (10) 14---38

Malevolent Light- [8] (14) 15—37
Kassiopeia- [10] (10) 17---37

korn469- ---- [11] (16) 9—36

MrWhereItsAt- [14] (16) 4---34

Shi Huangdi- [10] (13) 10---33
Zeus_of_Olimpos- [4] (25) 4---33

Hexagonian- [5] (6) 20---31

Pekka- [3] (10) 16---29

Azazel (Dalgetti)- [6] (12) 10--28
st_swithin- [25] (3)---28
MrFun- [7] (11) 10---28
Molly Bloom- [12] (2) 14---28

Beta- [14] (3) 10--27
Tiamat- (14) 13---27
Ogie Oglethorpe- [6] (7) 15---27

deity- [10] (8) 7--25

The Slayer- (24)
Catt- [8] (15)—24
Arrian [4] (12) 8---24

vmxa1---[3] (12) 8—23
Techumseh- [11] (4) 8---23
Wittlich- [6] (14) 3---23
Sn00py- [10] (6) 7---23

ChrisiusMaximus- [3] (10) 9---22
Pyaray- [19] (3)---22
Chilean President---[4] (16) 2--22

Solver- (13) 8---21
Sprayber – [13] (4) 4---21
UberKrux- [7] (14)-- 21

cavebear- [10] (8) 2—20
Oerdin- [9] (3) 8--20

Comrade Tassadar- [4] (10) 5---19
Frustrated Poet- [5] (8) 6—19

GePap- [6] (2) 10---18
GhengisFarb- [13] (5)—18
Agathon---[3] (4) 11--18

Jon Miller- [8] (7) 2---17
Snowflake/HongHu- [1] (3) 13---17

CivNation (AKA DefensorFidei)- [8] (4) 4---16

Lefty Scaevola- (11) 4---15
SlowThinker-(9) 6---15
vondrack- [3] (10) 2--15
Sava- [3] (12)--15

MariOne- [5] (9)--14

SKILORD- [3] (8) 2---13
PLATO- [3] (7) 3—13

Drake Tungsten- 12
Rommel2D- 12
Post Count Zero- [4] (4) 4---12
MarkusF- [4] (4) 4---12

David Floyd- [4] (7)---11
Sikander- (11)
Dissident- 11
Kaak- [6] (1) 4---11

Venom- [3] (7)—10
Lincoln- [4] (4) 2—10
Ned- 10
Quinns----[6] (4)—10
Drogue- [4] (2) 4---10
Arnelos- [2] (8)---10

vovan- (7) 2---9
Fried-Psitalon- [4] (3) 2---9
Frankychan- [6] (3)---9
Zopperoni---[7] (2)---9

Tau Ceti- (8)
finbar- [3] (2) 3—8
Boann- (4) 4---8
Mercator- 8
Kody- [1] (3) 4—8
fairline- 8
Aeson- [2] (3) 3—8

E_T- (7)
Ljube-Ljcvetko- 7
Archaic- [3] (4)---7
Theben- 7
Aqualung71- 7

alva- (4) 2---6
Exile- 6
Coracle-(3) 3---6
devilmunchkin- [3] (3)---6
Frozzy- [2] (4)---6
100. Crimson Sunrise- [3] (3) ---6
Bongo- (3) 3--6
civman2000- [3] (3)---6

ducki- (5)
Jaguar- (2) 3---5
mindseye- (2) 3---5
Keygen- (2) 3---5
joncha- (2) 3—5
Hydro- 5

Lorizael- (4)
Mr Baggins- (4)
Rasputin- (4)
monolith94- (4)
BaronO- (4)
Smash- (4)
Blake- 4
Dale- [2] (2)---4
Eli- 4
Red Trotskyite- 4
TheBirdMan- [2] (2)---4
Guynemer- 4
nbarclay- 4
curtsibling- 4
Niessuh- (2) 2—4
academia- 4
tnapoleon- 4
GeoModder- 4
Darsnan- 4
WRW- [1] (3)--4

hemical Ollie- (3)
raingoon- (3)
Lonestar- (3)
jimmytrick- (3)
CharlesBHoff- (3)
Gramphos- (3)
Verto- 3
Winston- 3
Serb- 3
Whaleboy- 3
Martin Gόhmann- 3
Wigalf- 3
Makeo- 3
Natalinasmpf- 3
Gerar Dean- (2) 1---3
Smiley- 3
Adaigo- 3
Ari Rahikkala- 3

Sir Ralph-(2)
Elephant- (2)
Rhothaerill- (2)
Darius- (2)
CerberusIV-(2)
136. Flubber- (2)
Bloody Monk- 2
Kurious- 2
Harry Tuttle- 2
Rasbelin- 2
fanes7-2
DeepO- 2
Lawrence of Arabia- 2
Ben Kenobi- 2
Heresson- 2
jshelr- 2
El Mencey- 2
Buster- 2
happysunshine- 2


2) Who voted for Whom

-Jrabbit voted for: Bloody Monk (2), Berzerker (2), Solo (2)
aaglo voted for: Skanky Burns (3), Immortal Wombat (3), Kassiopeia (3)
academia voted for: El Awrence (3), Jasev (3), Master Zen (3)
Adagio voted for: HongHu (3), Ljube-Ljcvetko (3), Skanky Burns (3)
Agathon voted for: Spiffor (2), Molly Bloom (2), Ted Striker (2)
alexman voted for: Dominae (4), Rommel2D (4), Theseus (4)
Alinestra Covelia voted for: Googlie (3), Hydro (3), Harlan (3)
Alva voted for: Dauphin (3), Dissident (3), Frustrated Poet (3)
amidala voted for: Master Zen (2), Kramsib (2), El Awrence (2)
Andemagne voted for: DarkCloud (4), Pekka (4), Kassiopeia (4)
Aqualung71 voted for: Alexman (2), Dominae (2), Paddy the Scot (2)
Arnelos voted for: alexman (2), dominae (2), togas (2)
Arrian voted for: alexman (3), Theseus (3), Dominae (3)
Asher voted for: Ted Striker (4), Loinburger (4), Spiffor (4)
Azazel voted for: Spiffor (3), Pekka (3), Giancarlo (3)
Ben Kenobi voted for: Solo (2), cavebear (2), Shi Huangdi (2)
Berzerker voted for: Ted Striker (4), Agathon (4), Ogie Oglethorpe (4)
Beta voted for: alexman (2), Paddy the Scot (2), vondrack (2)
Bloody Monk voted for: Solo (3), Samson (3), La Fayette (3)
bongo voted for: Paddy the Scot (4), Rommel2d (4), Aqualung71 (4)
Boshko voted for: Berzerker (4), loinburger (4), Shi Huangdi (4)
Brtndr4u voted for: Mleonard (3), Giancarlo (3), Tiamat (3)
Carloquillo voted for: Kramsib (2), Chilean President (2), Jasev (2)
Changmai Beagle voted for: Hexagonian (4), alexman (4), Sn00py (4)
chegitz guevara voted for: Giancarlo (3), Ned (3), Wigalf (3)
Chilean President voted for: El Awrence (3), Master Zen (3), Kramsib (3)
Chrisius Maximus voted for: Paddy the Scot (2), SKILORD (2), Vovan (2)
civman2000 voted for: DarkCloud (3), Togas (3), MasterZen (3)
Cold Wizard voted for: OzzyKP (3), Malevolent Light (3), Berzerker (3)
conmcb25 voted for: Beta (2), Togas (2), MrWhereItsAt (2)
curtsibling voted for: Exile (3), fairline (2), Harry Tuttle (2)
Cyrion voted for: Yaroslav (2), curtsibling (2), fairline (2)
DarkCloud voted for: Urban Ranger (3), El Awrence (3), Googlie (3)
Darsnan voted for: Googlie (3), Ogie Oglethorpe (3), Oerdin (3)
Dauphin voted for: Dissident (4), Ted Striker (4), Drake Tungsten (4)
David Floyd voted for: Berzerker (4), Tiamat (4), Lefty Scaevola (4)
DaveV voted for: LaFayette (4), Solo (4), Samson (4)
DAVOUT voted for: Spiffor (2), Molly Bloom (2), GePap (2)
debeest voted for: samson (3), solo (3), La Fayette (3)
Dissident voted for: Berzerker (3), Tiamat (3), Ted Striker (3)
Dominae voted for: alexman (2), Theseus (2), vmxa1 (2)
Drogue voted for: Spiffor (2), Rasbelin (2), Jamski (2)
DrSpike voted for: Jamski (3), Skanky Burns (3), Dauphin (3)
Dr Strangelove voted for: Azazel (4), Eli (4), Guynemer (4)
duke o’york voted for: Spiffor (3), Berzerker (3), El Awrence (3)
*El Awrence voted for: Jasev (4), Kramsib (4), Master Zen (4)
el mencey voted for: El Awrence (2), Kramsib (2), Master Zen (2)
Elephant voted for: Samson (2), Solo (2), Mercator (2)
FlameFlash voted for: Googlie (3), Adaigo (3), Keygen (3)
FrustratedPoet voted for: Skanky Burns (2), Dr Spike (2), alva (2)
g5harrison voted for: Academia (1), Gerar Dean (1), Kramsib (1)
GePap voted for: DarkCloud (3), Spiffor (3), Loinburger (3)
Gerar Dean voted for: El Awrence (2), Kramsib (2), MasterZen (2)
Gigante Verde voted for: El Awrence (1), Master Zen (1), Kramsib (1)
Grigor voted for: Solo (3), Samson (3), La Fayette (3)
Harry Tuttle voted for: Curt Sibling (2), Fariline (2), Yaroslav (2)
hexagonian voted for: WesW (4), Immortal Wombat (4), Solver (4)
Hercules voted for: Googlie (2), Snowflake (2), Darsnan (2)
Heresson voted for: joncha (3), Winston (3), Azazel (3)
Hydey voted for: Deity (3), finbar (3), makeo (3)
Illuminatus voted for: Googlie (2), Darsnan (2), Hydro (2)
Immortal Wombat voted for: WesW (3), Hexagonian (3), MrOgre (3)
Imran Siddiqui voted for: Spiffor (4), Ted Striker (4), MrFun (4)
ixnay voted for: DarkCloud (4), loinburger (4), Fez (4)
Jaguar voted for: Spiffor (3), Theseus (3), Ted Striker (3)
Jamski voted for: Skanky Burns (2), DrSpike (2), HongHu (2)
Japher voted for: Oerdin (2), DarkCloud (2), MrFun (2)
jasev voted for: El Awrence (3), Kramsib (3), Academia (3)
Jay Bee voted for: El Awrence (4), Jasev (4), Yaroslav (4)
J Byetheway voted for: WesW (3), Immortal Wombat (3), Hexagonian (3)
JCG voted for: Master Zen (2), Kramsib (2), El Awrence (2)
jm_ruiz voted for: El Awrence (2), Niessuh (2), Kramsib (2)
joncha voted for: Spiffor (2), Fez (2), Herresson (2)
JohnT voted for: Immortal Wombat(4), Agathon (4), Ogie Oglethorpe (4)
Jon Miller voted for: Zeus_of_Olimpos (4), Civnation (4), Post Count Zero (4)
Jonny voted for: Smiley (3), DrSpike (3), Skanky Burns (3)
Justinianum voted for: Mercator (2), Fairline (2), Yaroslav (2)
Kassiopeia voted for: Googlie (3), Alinestra Covelia (3), Immortal Wombat (3)
Kelzad voted for: Kramsib (2), El Mencey (2), El Awrence (2)
Konquest02 voted for: Theseus (2), Arrian (2)
Kramsib voted for: El Awrence (3), Jasev (3), Yaroslav (3)
Krill voted for: alexman (2), jshelr (2), DeepO (2)
Kuciwalker voted for: Jaguar (3), Comrade Tassadar (3), Verto (3)
La Fayette voted for: Solo (3), Samson (3), SlowThinker (3)
*Lazarus and the Gimp voted for: Chrisius Maximus (4), Alinestra Covelia (4), Molly Bloom (4)
lightblue voted for: Ted Striker (3), Loinburger (3), Pekka (3)
Ljube-ljcvetko voted for: Skanky Burns (2), Jamski (2), DrSpike (2)
Locutus voted for: WesW (4), Immortal Wombat (4), Harlan (4)
Lonestar voted for: Serb (3), Spiffor (3), Oerdin (3)
Mad Bomber voted for: alexman (2), Theseus (2), Arrian (2)
Main_Brain voted for: Jamski (2), Comrade Tassadar (2), vmxa1 (2)
MaleveolentLight voted for: Kaak (4), MarkusF (4), berserker (4)
Maquiladora voted for: WesW (3), Hexagonian (3), Martin Guhmann (3)
Makahlua voted for: Alexman (2), Dominae (2), Paddy the Scot (2)
Maniac voted for: Googlie (4), DarkCloud (4), GeoModder (4)
Manya voted for: El Awrence (2), Master Zen (2), Kramsib (2)
Martin Gόhmann voted for: WesW (3), Immortal Wombat (3), Hexagonian (3)
McMeadows voted for: Alexman (4), Paddy the Scot (4), Rommel2D (4)
Mead voted for: Googlie (2), Buster (2), Kody (2)
Mercator voted for: tecumseh (4), Exile (4), Alinestra Covelia (4)
Method voted for: Kassiopeia (3), Immortal Wombat (3), Alinestra Covelia (3)
Micha voted for: Googlie (2), Kody (2), Snowflake (2)
mindseye voted for: Dr Strangelove (4), Molly Bloom (4), GePap (4)
Ming voted for: Berzerker (4), OzzyKP (4), Malevolent Light (4)
molly bloom voted for: Agathon (3), Whaleboy (3), Mindseye (3)
Monk voted for: Harlan Thompson (4)
monolith94 voted for: tnapoleon (4), Red Trotskyite (4), Mleonard (4)
Mr. Nice Guy voted for: Lincoln (2), Jon Miller (2), Ben Kenobi (2)
MrWhereItsAt voted for: alexman (3), Dominae (3), Paddy the Scot (3)
Ned voted for: Ogie Oglethorpe (4), Drake Tungsten (4), Blake (4)
Niessuh voted for: Master Zen (2), Kramsib (2), El Awrence (2)
Nikolai voted for: DarkCloud (3), DrSpike (3), korn469 (3)
notyoueither voted for: alexman (3), korn469 (3), Aeson (3)
oedo voted for: solo (3), spiffor (3), Ted Striker (3)
Ogie Oglethorpe voted for: Ned (4), Drake Tungsten (4), Berzerker (4)
Old n Slow voted for: La Fayette (2), Solo (2), samson (2)
OzzyKP voted for: Berzerker (4), MalevolentLight (4), Deity (4)
Paddy the Scot voted for: Chrisius Maximus (3), Bongo (3), Aqualung (3)
pchang voted for: Strangelove (4), Theben (4), Ted Striker (4)
Peaster voted for: Harlan (2), Samson (2), Solo (2)
PLATO voted for: Spiffor (2), nbarclay (2), vmxa1 (2)
Provost Harrison voted for: Big Crunch (3), Spiffor (3), Jamski (3)
rah voted for: Berzerker (4), Malevolent Light (4), OzzyKP (4)
Rasbelin votred for: Kassiopeia (4), Solver (4), Drogue (4)
Rhothaerill voted for: Beta (2), alexman (2), Theseus (2)
Richelieu voted for: Theben (3)
rjmatsleepers voted for: Solo (2), Samson (2), La Fayette (2)
Rommel2D voted for: Alexman (2), Dominae (2), Paddy the Scot (2)
Scouse Gits voted for: Solo (4), Samson (4), LaFayette (4)
Shogun Gunner voted for: Wittlich (3), Paddy the Scot (3), Beta (3)
Sirotnikov voted for: Sn00py (3), korn469 (3), Pekka (3)
Sir Ralph voted for: alexman (3), Theseus (3), Coracle (3)
Skanky Burns voted for: DrSpike (3), Jamski (3), FrustratedPoet (3)
SlowwHand voted for: Boann (4), Berzerker (4), Sprayber (4)
Snowflake voted for: Jamski (2), Skanky Burns (2), DrSpike (2)
solo voted for: Samson (3), LaFayette (3), SlowThinker (3)
Solomwi voted for: alexman (2), Theseus (2), Dominae (2)
Solver voted for: DarkCloud (4), WesW (4), Hexagonian (4)
Spaced Cowboy voted for: Skanky Burns (3), Jamski (3), DrSpike (3)
Sparrowhawk voted for: solo (4), Samson (4), La Fayette (4)
Spiffor voted for: Plato (3)l, Doc Strangelove (3), Azazel (3)
Stefu voted for: Ted Striker (4), loinburger (4), DarkCloud (4)
Straybow voted for: solo (4), Samson (4), googlie (4)
St Leo voted for: Tecumseh (4), Mercator (4), GePap (4)
Stuie voted for: alexman (3), Berzerker (3), Pekka (3)
Switch voted for: alexman (2), Theseus (2), vmxa1 (2)
Tall Stranger voted for: Alexman (2), Theseus (2), Dominae (2)
Ted Striker voted for: Dr. Strangelove (4), Berzerker (4), Dissident (4)
Theben voted for: HongHu (4), Jamski (4), Ljube-Ljcvetko (4)
The Emperor Fabulous voted for: Spiffor (4), Mleonard (4), MrFun (4)
Theseus voted for alexman (2), HappySunShine (2), fanes7 (2)
The Slayer voted for: Master Zen (2), Kramsib (2), El Awrence (2)
Trip voted for: DarkCloud (2), alexman (2), nbarclay (2)
unscratchedfoot voted for: Paddy the Scot (2), ChrisiusMaximus (2), Kurious (2)
Unspeakable Horror voted for: El Awrence (4), Master Zen (4), Dark Cloud (4)
Velociryx voted for: Googlie (4), Theseus (4), Arrian (4)
VJ voted for: Kassiopeia (3), Ari Rahikkala (3), Dr Strangelove (3)
Vlad Antlerkov voted for: Shi Huangdi (4), Theseus (4), Mleonard (4)
vmxa1 voted for: Urban Ranger (3), Dominae (3), alexman (3)
vondrack voted for: Fried-Psitalon (2), MrWhereItsAt (2), Dominae (2)
Wernazuma voted for: Natalinasmpf (3), Ned (3), Giancarlo (3)
Whaleboy voted for: Molly Bloom (2), Dr Strangelove (2), Lawrence of Arabia (2)
Wittlich voted for: Tiamat (3), Beta (3), Paddy the Scot (3)
Zenon voted for: Samson (2), Solo (2), La Fayette (2)

*Registered 1999

	08-10-2004 01:41									#57
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Apparently with the missed votes and an accidental mistype/addition in alexman's totals- he is also elected in this hall...

Thankfully though, this isn't that bad a mistake since Spiffor and El Awrence tied for third place.

Apologies to the mistakes and congratulations to the newest member-

(here's a tenative writeup)

alexman
Reknowned for his excellent civ III contributions, Alexman is a permanent fixture of the Civ III community and is generally considered a strategic Guru due to his essential formulae.

Here's the full totals
1. alexman [16] (48) 64--128
2. Solo- [29] (42) 45---117
3. El Awrence- [35] (36) 45---116
3. Spiffor- [34] (39) 43---116

	08-10-2004 01:43									#58
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Woohoo!

	08-10-2004 02:19									#59
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Whoa, thanks for the votes, and especially for all the kind words!

Does this mean that I have to retire to the OT forum now?

	08-10-2004 02:58									#60
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Strangely, that's where I stumbled on the news.