28-09-2004 13:23									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson nah, no-one will play it if I'll make it

No lame excuses!

You have your audience here and on CDG - We like your stuff.

Get started!

	28-09-2004 15:39									#32
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Sorry Eivind, I have forgotten about this ops:

PM any e-mail adress you have which is big enough to receive big pictures

	28-09-2004 15:47									#33
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What's CDG?

	28-09-2004 15:49									#34
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CDG = http://www.cdgroup.org

	28-09-2004 15:56									#35
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@Eivind...I can't find that magazine right now, I'll have to wait my parents to come so I can ask them...

	28-09-2004 16:54									#36
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Alrighty!

	29-09-2004 03:37									#37
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Eivind, do you have ToT? I've been having a play with some units for you, and it's a real struggle getting the cavalry helmets to fit in the small MGE unit slot. ToT gives you plenty of headroom

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	29-09-2004 03:47									#38
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Nice unit!

	29-09-2004 03:50									#39
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Oh, beutiful, Gareth! Thanks!

Yes, I do have TOT, I'm not very familiar with it though. I've only played El Aurens on it onc (which I loved btw ). Although I am aware that TOT is better than MGE in many ways, it sort of limits the amount of players for the scen, as not very people own TOT, as opposed to the masses that have MGE.

Is it only the cavalries that is a problem?

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	29-09-2004 03:59									#40
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What masses?

There's about 30 of us here, at CDG and CivFan. Most now seem to have ToT. As for the great unwashed masses who play and lurk but don't post, who cares about them?

Sorry great unwashed masses, I love you really

	29-09-2004 04:16									#41
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I'd care more if they'd take a bath now and then.

	29-09-2004 04:22									#42
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I'm only familiar with MGE

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	29-09-2004 04:31									#43
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No problem - me too. However, if you use a text editor for MGE scenarios, them making a ToT one is identical. The additional features don't have to be used - but who'd turn down more events space, individual sounds and civ-unique units to name 3 advantages?

	29-09-2004 13:24									#44
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Look at the source code petiotion thread. There's a hell of alot more than 30. I did maybe though exaggerate a teny tiny bit with 'masses'

I use notepad to edit the original files. It's just that when I first make a scenario, I like to do it thoroughly, and if had all those extra feutres, I couldn't just not use 'em. So it would take me just as long to get familiar with all that ToT can offer as it would making the scen in MGE. That's why I'm so sceptical.

I must honestly admit that it does not look as pritty as the ToT unit, but isn't this a fair MGE compromise? Was this the only unit you had some trouble with?

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	29-09-2004 16:23									#45
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Eivind....that magazine has dissapeared

@Gareth: That unit looks brilliant, and it's not looking bad at all in MGE format.

@All...I recently adquired the German TOT...can anyone please e-mail me all the English text files? I don't understand German... Thanks

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	29-09-2004 17:19									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Pablostuka @All...I recently adquired the German TOT...can anyone please e-mail me all the English text files? I don't understand German... Thanks

I have the same problem. Can anyone send me these English text files? drkellogg@NOSPAMweb.de

	29-09-2004 18:44									#47
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What would units represent, regiments?

In terms of artillery, why not just make the cannons aircraft carriers instead of subs? you don;t have to worry about the issue of seeing subs.

	04-10-2004 04:45									#48
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@GePap:
It han't even come to the drawing board yet, so I havn't decided yet. But with you guys kicking my lazy arse ahead, I'll get on it right away

Pablo provided me with this 3D map today, which will be a great source for unit placement. I'm still in the lookout for a good above angled map, so I can draw the civ-map as detailed as possible.

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	04-10-2004 12:30									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Kellogg I have the same problem. Can anyone send me these English text files? drkellogg@NOSPAMweb.de

Follow this here LINK TO CDG to acquire the English version of ToT game files!

Just copy & paste them into your ToT folder!!!

I hope this helps

	04-10-2004 19:51									#50
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Ah, thanks a lot!

	04-10-2004 23:20									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Kobra Look at the source code petiotion thread. There's a hell of alot more than 30. I did maybe though exaggerate a teny tiny bit with 'masses'

Point taken, but I don't think many of the OT'ers and vanilla civ posters play scenarios. Could be wrong though. I just think it's high time we all switched to ToT - 'everyone' seems to have it and it's far and away the best version of civ2, so why not use it's additional features? You're a far more experienced scenario designer than me, but even I've started using it for my feeble attempt at a scenario. Everything is familiar from my abortive attempts at MGE scenario design as I never used the in-game editor anyway.

BTW, the advanced unit stuff is fairly easy (if you know which order civs are listed the units_advanced part of the rules file ). The individual sound slots are assigned in the last part of rules.txt, the additional events macros are explained in the macro.txt file in the ToT directory and the huge potential of the graphics is readily apparent.

	05-10-2004 16:11									#52
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quote: Originally posted by fairline [...]I just think it's high time we all switched to ToT - 'everyone' seems to have it and it's far and away the best version of civ2, so why not use it's additional features? [...]

That's it!

	06-10-2004 02:56									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Kobra @GePap: It han't even come to the drawing board yet, so I havn't decided yet. But with you guys kicking my lazy arse ahead, I'll get on it right away Pablo provided me with this 3D map today, which will be a great source for unit placement. I'm still in the lookout for a good above angled map, so I can draw the civ-map as detailed as possible.

I haven't gone to get Waterloo yet, and the worst part is that the friend that has it came over for an asado last friday (but forgot to bring it). I have to return some videos to him soon, though, so either later today or tomorrow i'll have it.

	06-08-2005 06:23									#54
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If you want the full-sized ones (these are 250 KB, the originals are around 450), I'll be happy to send them if you provide an e-mail adress.

	06-08-2005 23:07									#55
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Only 10 months late for these

If your still serious about completing this after the Desert War scenario Eivind, I'll make up some Prussians, Dutch-Belgians, Hanoverians and Brunswickers to complete the Allied forces.

Same rules apply as the Brits: please don't recycle as 7YW soldiers etc.

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	07-08-2005 07:15									#56
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quote: Originally posted by fairline I've got detailed OOBs Eivind (Boco knows me too well ) and I can't resist having a go at the units if you're serious about this.

I never say A if I don't mean B. This woul still be extremely helpful. The library you seem to posess about various historical battles is amazing. Where do you get them all?

quote: Originally posted by fairline Count me in if you want a hand.

I thought you gave up on me when I chose MGE, Gareth. Cheers x100! These units are absolutely brilliant! I'll certainly look to this when finishing the Desert War.