08-10-2004 03:19									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson My strategy for a city is: settler-phalanx-temple-wonder-settler-some other unit. Thrid city or fourth may produce a horseman before building a wonder.

Why Temple? Martial law is much cheaper. Sure, you may need a temple later, but not until you have many, many cities, or your city gets to size 4. Which is a while off!

I usually go Warrior-Settler-Settler-Caravan in most of my very early cities, trying to keep to size 2. If I can't keep to size 2, or unhappiness becomes an issue, I'll build more Warriors or Horsemen (if available).

One city, usually the capital, will start a Wonder.

Another will build an exploring unit or two, prior to building Settlers, if I haven't had any hut luck. As soon as I discover Trade, the cities closest to the Wonder city switch to Caravans.

Expand, expand, expand is my theme. All the foregoing is subject to terrain and AI presence considerations.

	08-10-2004 03:36									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson My strategy for a city is: settler-phalanx-temple-wonder-settler-some other unit. Thrid city or fourth may produce a horseman before building a wonder.

This is an expansion on the excellent response by STYOM. The key to our thinking is timeliness and efficiency in action, and a good model is the "just in time" inventory method. A Temple costs money for upkeep. Especially because you plan on building another settler later (reducing city size), it is more efficient to build a warrior (or two even) for now and wait until after settler spawning is complete to build a Temple.

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	08-10-2004 20:12									#33
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In my cap, and sometimes my second city I will usually build the temple a little early than I will need it.

It's usually after the city has already kicked out a warrior to search (hut units may diminish this need) a defensive unit (or horseman) and a couple of settlers. Kicking out a third settler is done if there are still good locations CLOSE or ships are ready to take to the sea.

At this point I may not have trade yet, so I I'm running out of things to build, so I usually build the temple regardless of current need knowing I'll need it later and I'd rather be building caravans later.

In my border cities, they're still cranking settlers until the distance one has to travel to settle starts to make that impractical, then they build one more settler to build the road back to the core cities and then they switch to temples prior to caravans. Of course by then, there's a new wave of border cities to continue the expansion craze.

	09-10-2004 01:06									#34
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I guess You guys are right... But I never really cared about the final score, except for my Spanish Pride two games.
I'm just expanding... and trying to get all the grassland I can.
Once I've had a funny game, it was a classic game for me, I liked the map so much I played one more game on it and a sequence game with Hendrik the Great.

You see, my empire was locked on a big triangle in the northern part of the map. Quite late in the game, I noticed greeeeaaaat grassland area, of size of my empire almost, on the other part of the map. It was next to the Viking empire, but there was a narrow (?) part of the land, which ment that my colony there didn't let Vikings go there; I was sending there as many settlers as I could, attempting to colonise it all before anyone else will. And I did. Entire area was covered with my tiny cities. However, vikings were very hostile, and my new-borned cities were not quite able to defend themselves. Also, the Vikings nuked my capital, proud Eupatria, before I built a SDI defence there. It was a very interesting game, and a difficult one too. It was like a real colony of mine, like Spain for Carthago or something.

	09-10-2004 01:41									#35
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Just so we're clear, all my comments are based on MP since I only play SP rarely and when it's a challange type game.

SO score is never an issue. But expansion is. More cities means more resources to out research and build more/better units to send against your equally skilled opponents.

It's a totally different game when you play someone that attacks and plans as well as you do.

	09-10-2004 01:48									#36
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Will You play with me someday? I probably be able to play my first PBEM or whatever it is called in a months time or so

Again, I love your ferret or whatever nice creature it is!

	11-10-2004 23:05									#37
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is it better to develop your civilization in all areas in the early game, or is it better to gear your civ to conquest right from the start?

	12-10-2004 01:32									#38
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It depends on whether you're playing SP/MP, and if MP, who your opponents are.

In SP it depends on your style and what you enjoy more. You should be able to cream the AI using either stlye. It's a matter of preference.

	12-10-2004 02:23									#39
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I play on largest maps possible 100x100, so early conquests are not possible sometimes

	12-10-2004 17:49									#40
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In MP with four players we usually play 39x49.
This usually guarentees early and frequent conflict.
You have to fight for territory.

	12-10-2004 20:44									#41
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nah, I like to big build cities with pompous names.

	12-10-2004 21:44									#42
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We build big cities too.
With some pompous names like Ferretown, Ming and BITE ME.

	12-10-2004 21:48									#43
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I like inventing names. Martymera, Ferenpol or Rusykada (Rusicade if You like) are my classics...

	12-10-2004 22:36									#44
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Yep, some of the names we make up can't be posted here.

	12-10-2004 23:23									#45
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You're RAH. You can do everything

	12-10-2004 23:41									#46
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Even RAH doesn't flaunt the rules here. (bend them maybe)
I have been suspended before and wish not to have it repeated.

	14-10-2004 00:34									#47
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Why were You suspended?

	14-10-2004 02:10									#48
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By breaking the rules, of course

	14-10-2004 02:20									#49
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Could You be more explicit or whatever the English word is?

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A Forum PRANK that Abused my moderator privledges. Which I won't elaborate on further, except to say that it involved a lot a apolyton posters partying together with lot's of alcohol involved.

	15-10-2004 04:35									#51
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quote: Originally posted by rah A Forum PRANK that Abused my moderator privledges. Which I won't elaborate on further, except to say that it involved a lot a apolyton posters partying together with lot's of alcohol involved.

Oh yes, that was amusing I remember the discussion - that was way back when I frequented the OT forum.

	15-10-2004 23:43									#52
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What's PRANK?
Is it somekind of parties moderators had or something?
I recall sth like that... is it that?

	01-02-2005 11:42									#53
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I start with a baracks after having built some units and change it to temple if the needed tech is available.

	01-02-2005 22:39									#54
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I will only build a baracks early if I find myself way too close to a known aggressive player in MP and he has already found me. Except for that, I have other things to build. If you build baracks early, you will fall way to far behind other experienced players. The only way to catch back up is taking their cities. Not as easy as taking AI cities, so it's never a sure bet, and if you fail, you will have probably fallen so far behind that your death will be iminent.